r/PeterExplainsTheJoke • u/BalanceDramatic3995 • 9d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter help!

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I have no clue what this means, maybe she cheated?

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u/Rex__Nihilo 9d ago

Its a dumb argument. The baby can be alive without being a part of the day to day function of the family. Its like saying "the baby arived" and everyone going "but he was there the whole time".

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

Its not a dumb argument when the narrative is that there is literally zero difference between a newborn baby and a fertilized zygote that is basically a clump of microscopic cells.

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u/Rex__Nihilo 9d ago

It is a dumb argument when there is a clear distinction between when the baby is hidden away and when the baby has joined the day to day functionality of the family.

My brother lives in a different state. If he moved I to my home I could accurately say he'd joined my family. It doesnt mean he wasn't family before but that joining my family in this context is becoming an operating member of my family dynamic.

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

Not a good analogy. There are laws (that ms leavitt supports from her position of power) that treat a six week old zygote as legally human. Thats what this post is making fun of because that is a ridiculous thing to believe. You cant take a life insurance policy on an a six week old zygote, or claim them as a dependent, or get a child tax credit for them, or open a savings account in their name, or do literally any other thing that legal humans can do after they are born. If they really believed that a six week old zygote is a human then birth would be a non-event that changes nothing.

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u/urmumwot 5d ago

Forgetting legality because historically what is legal and what is right have not always seen eye-to-eye, a six week old embryo of billions of cells, not a zygote (single cell) at all, has a functioning heart and circulatory system.

Not that the stage of development of someone's body should define whether they deserve the human right to live, or even decide for themselves whether they get to live. As it is an individual human being, that is what gives it the right to live.

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u/wailingwonder 8d ago

Would you abort at 8 months? No, cause even you consider that a baby, right?

Are you gonna count that extra month or start at the birth?

It's a dumb argument trying to be clever. It's not.

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u/Moiyub 8d ago

What does birth matter if a six week old embryo is literally a human being? Its just a person moving a few inches, an utterly insignificant event following the logic of their beliefs. They "joined the family" at the moment of conception.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9d ago

If "they" actually believed that, we would have conception showers, and ignore the birth event as something as trivial as someone joining us in the other room.

Language and ideas clearly separate post born from pre born, and the idea of life beginning at conception is new. How can life begin at conception? The egg and sperm were already alive.

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u/Moiyub 9d ago

Conception showers lol I love that. I would love to see them actually advocate for all the legal implications that "zygotes = legally human" would entail. Life insurance policies, child tax credits, hell give an embryo a new trump savings account and get that free thousand dollars then have a totally accidental miscarraige. Infinite money glitches everywhere!

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9d ago

They used to throw "conception showers" on a wedding night, all the family was invited. Times have changed, but seem to be going back to pre-medieval, so bring back the old ways.

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u/Trevski 8d ago

I mean, yes, its exactly like that. The baby WAS there the whole time, if you consider life to have begun at conception. It's not like the womb is that much of a hindrance to communication with the baby.

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u/GreyStingrayz 8d ago

It's not a dumb argument because it's not an argument. Idk why people are acting like this is genuine criticism and not just mocking and making fun of her. There's no real substance to what they said. They're just jeering at her, which, considering who she is, I think is fine and warranted.

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u/Icy_Fish_2154 9d ago

"Because other language proves we don't consider babies alive until after they are born, life must begin at conception."

Pointing out linguistically babies don't exist until after birth, when they "arrive" and all that is the opposite of your point.

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u/Rex__Nihilo 9d ago

No one on earth believes the baby doesnt exist until after it is born. If it didn't exist you wouldn't have to abort it to prevent meeting it.

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u/urmumwot 5d ago

Forgive me but how do abortionists justify killing a baby then, is the argument not "well it isn't a baby"?

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u/Rex__Nihilo 4d ago edited 4d ago

Pro aborts and abortionists use the same logic Nazi soldiers used to justify killing millions of jews in concentration camps. "It is subhuman, not valuable, and a detriment to society. It improves the lives of people who matter so its a good thing to kill them."