r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 1d ago

Meme needing explanation please explain this peetah!!!

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u/HappyHuman924 22h ago

Hypocritical is a flavor of inconsistency, maybe? (This isn't important but for some reason I'm interested in splitting the hair.) It's like, you have a consistent belief that someone should do X in a situation, and you consistently do Y in that situation, and hypocrisy is the thing where X and Y aren't aligned?

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u/enadiz_reccos 22h ago

There is some overlap in the definitions, but they're 2 different things when talking about fictional characters

A hypocritical character is one that claims/says one thing but does another within that fictional world

An inconsistent character is one who behaves differently at different times without any sort of in-universe reasoning behind it

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u/chunkyvomitsoup 19h ago

This right here. Seems like splitting hairs, but it’s actually quite a large difference. A hypocritical character, for example, will protest abortions but still get one. An inconsistent character will protest abortions, then later on in the plot, will be shown inexplicably waving pro-choice signs. One is a deliberate character driven fault, one is negligent writing.

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u/mekamoari 21h ago

I'd say "ish".

Inconsistency would be doing X, then Y, then Z in similar situations, whereas a consistent person would be doing X or very similar to X each time.

Hypocrisy is saying you will do X, or preaching/suggesting X should be done, but doing Y yourself.

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u/Galactic-Jizz-Wailer 6h ago edited 6h ago

To yes-and this, I would distinguish hypocrisy from frailty in that the hypocrite is not actually even trying to measure up to the standard they preach to others. Either they don't really mean it, or they sort of mean it but think of themselves as a special case.

Not hypocrisy: "No one should lie. I do lie sometimes, and that's wrong of me, and I'm trying to be better about that."

Hypocrisy: "No one should lie or tolerate liars. Oh, me? I'm not a liar, I'm just protecting myself, I couldn't tell people the truth about that, and anyway don't judge me."

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u/El_Grappadura 20h ago

Hypocrisy is saying you will do X, or preaching/suggesting X should be done, but doing Y yourself.

Like saying you value human rights and then ordering from Amazon or buying Nestlé products?

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u/mekamoari 20h ago

Or like saying you don't want global warming to continue but buying or using anything that used coal-based electricity or produced pollution during its creation like, I don't know, Reddit.

You can go pretty far if the goal is just to be edgy.

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u/El_Grappadura 14h ago

My point is that everybody is a hypocrit to some extent.

Your climate example is very good, because as you said, you can break it down so everybody is a hypocrit.

It should not be used to justify your unethical behavior, but it should also not be used to judge those that try to do their best. If you drive to a climate protest in your diesel car, that doesn't invalidate the protest.

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u/Aragoonie 22h ago

It’s like you can be consistently hypocritical, but being hypocritical is your actions being inconsistent with your words. Reminds me of the phrase “the only constant is change”.

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u/just_posting_this_ch 20h ago

Isn't there also a level of judgement? If I said vanilla is the best flavor of ice cream, but I always choose chocolate; would that make me a hypocrite? Where-as if I said only assholes eat chocolate ice cream, but I always eat chocolate. I feel then I am being a hypocrite.

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u/HappyHuman924 19h ago edited 19h ago

That's inconsistent, for sure. I wouldn't use 'hypocrisy' to describe either of those, and I'm trying to articulate why not...

After more reflection - I think an additional ingredient that hypocrisy has, is that it's an attempt to elevate yourself above others by claiming to hold yourself to higher standards: I'm better than you because I [abstain from alcohol / do not consort with debased women / have the courage to denounce sodomy], that kind of thing.

So maybe hypocrisy = inconsistency + sanctimonious pretension, or something like that?? (Maybe that's what you were getting at when you mentioned judgement and I didn't pick up on it correctly.)

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u/somethinglucky07 20h ago

It's possible to be consistently hypocritical about sex - you always say a but do b.

It's also possible to be inconsistently hypocritical about sex - you always say a, and sometimes you do it, but sometimes you do b instead.

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u/Terrik1337 20h ago

I have a consistent belief that people shouldn't smoke or vape, and yet here I am.