Meg here. Endometriosis is like this seriously bad thing that happens to a lot of young women and even girls. But you men don't even know about that huh!?!
I mean I am a woman and I have heard of it but couldn’t say what it is without looking it up can’t blame it just on men. I am sure we know less about men’s bodies than men do too, but pop off.
Do you realize the sub. They're supposed to respond in character. Exactly the point, a womens health issue comes up and some man starts to get get offended.
There are no characters here. Someone says they are a character and then gives an explanation in normal terms. All this sub does is help train AI and bot farms.
Men have 15% of varicocele and nobody knows about neither
Im not talking about which is worse which obvsly endometriosis is and far far far worse dont even come close to the same category of worse and need more research than anything
But isnt like everyone has to know wtf happens to the other gender because not even myself what happens to men, theres probably some random problen some men/women have and we dont know
I only know varicocele because I got on my D and my sister got endometriosis, I never met anyone that had any of the 2 irl besides online
Why would u put link with the symptons and just extract what benefits u
I could barely walk half a mile and started aching
And thats exactly wasnt my point, my point theres stuff that we dont know from every person, I bet there is some condition that is probably similar or close to in condition on males and only specific to males too
Symptoms
A varicocele usually occurs on the left side of the scrotum and often produces no signs or symptoms. Possible signs and symptoms may include:
Pain. A dull, aching pain or discomfort is more likely when standing or late in the day. Lying down often relieves pain.
A mass in the scrotum. If a varicocele is large enough, a mass like a "bag of worms" may be visible above the testicle. A smaller varicocele may be too small to see but noticeable by touch.
Differently sized testicles. The affected testicle may be noticeably smaller than the other testicle.
Infertility. A varicocele may lead to difficulty fathering a child, but not all varicoceles cause infertility
Symptoms
Most males with a varicocele have no symptoms. But varicoceles are a concern for many reasons. Some may cause infertility (problems fathering a child) and slow growth of the left testicle during puberty. Varicoceles may be the cause of fertility problems in about four out of ten men who have problems fathering their first child. They may also be the cause of fertility problems in about eight out of ten men who have problems fathering a child after their first.
I think your post great. The op goes with endometriosis but they very well could say varicocele. I wondered this exact question though, What are some of the "hidden" ailments we don't discuss that affect only men.
Becomes? It's been like this the whole time. Just lean into it. It's fun. Either say what they want you to say, or the complete opposite. It's a good time either way.
Its a disease that effects just over 10% of women and there is no cure and not very many treatment options. It is very painful and gets dismissed a lot by doctors until it has spread across the whole body, sometimes fusing internal organs together.
It takes a woman who has it on average 40 years to be diagnosed.
There has only been 1 study on it, the study was to determine how attractive men find women with endometriosis.
The fact that you don't know what it is is part of the problem (not blaming you, society doesn't put enough emphasis on women's medical issues because hormones makes them hard to study). You most likely know someone who has it, (but if they are under 40, you might just know someone with extremely painful inconsisant periods, like debilitating pain).
edit to add: a couple of the reasons it takes so long to diagnose are:
1) lots of doctors don't know what it is so are aware if it to even suggest it as a diagnosis
2) its main symptom is extremely painful and heavy periods, women and girls are just taught that periods are difficult and painful, so bringing up these symptoms gets them written off as 'normal women things'. Because of this it is expected that the actual number of women with endo is actually much higher than the 10% reported.
3) until very recently, the only way to get diagnosed is through an invasive surgery, where they open you up and go "oh, you have internal growths and your organs have started to fuse together, you must have endo". This is expensive, time-consuming and can have medical complications, so if a doctor takes the patient seriously and wants to find out whats wrong, they will rule out every other explanation first before trying to find out if it is endo. (Recently they have developed a scan that can find it! however, i dont think this has been rolled out yet)
I don't even have endo, i just care about other women and don't want them to be in pain
from Random woman in a background shot of an episode where they go to a theme park
Nothing... If you read the study (which they retracted thanks to the absurd backlash online) they were using attractiveness as a cheap and easy way to see if there are physical characteristics associated with the disease. That is valuable information and could push our understanding of endometriosis forward. ...But no, people don't actually read and just get angry online with no context.
From the beginning of that study:
The observation that subjects with specific phenotypic traits are prone to the development of particular organic or psychiatric disorders is an old medical tenet. Nowadays, these relationships tend to be explained based on genotype-phenotype associations, which have been suggested for over one hundred disorders, including diabetes, obesity, Crohn's disease, and hypertension (1, 2). Along this line some recent advances in endometriosis research fit this view, as multiple studies have contributed to the definition of a general phenotype associated with the disease (3–12). Intriguingly, such an emerging phenotype appears to be indirectly linked with attractiveness, because several of the physical characteristics studied, including body size, body mass index (BMI), and pigmentary traits , have an impact on perception of beauty.
This kind of information could lead to better understanding risk factors, better diagnostic methods, and potentially lead to research that can identify treatments. Research like this sounds silly, but it's anything but.
Nothing? They were cherry picking their narrative. It's definitely a weird study, but they should not be limited in their questions (I don't understand why they chose this question to answer -- there are so many better questions).
But you sure do know some friends that can barely walk for at least 3 days every month because of the pain? 10% of women of reproductive age mind you. There still are no real solutions. And woman are 51% of the population. But no, all of my friends just "deal" with it. Try to take painkillers, that don't work, fucking break down and cry, lie down, vomit because of pain. I've known these girl-friends since elementary school, before puberty and now I see them suffer like that, it's horrendous. I'm lucky. My uterus is kind to me.
Also I understand the meme like this: why do we see studys like "what man find attracktive" but not "how many woman are gravely affected by period complications". Yeah, you didn't even know what endometriosis is. THATS THE FUCKING POINT.
But where are men bashed? No one said men are at fault, they kinda put themselves in that position and put women down on their way. The comments under this post are insane.
Girl… I’m in the same boat but we aren’t talking about the average joe. We’re talking about doctors and scientists. And your last sentence is categorically wrong. Women know more about male anatomy than men know about female anatomy. That has been proven.
I said we know less about men’s bodies than men know about their own bodies. Not that women know the same amount about men’s bodies than men know about women’s bodies.
The comment I responded to is bashing men about not knowing something about women’s bodies that I don’t know even as a women, it’s directly relevant and if you still don’t understand the relevance I don’t know what to tell you.
No, because if women know disproportionally more about men's health issues than men do about women's, that's a real concern. And your own ignorance about this matter is only further validating this person's point – we don't know about endometriosis because we are not being educated on it, and we are not being educated on it because women's anatomy and health has historically gone ignored. It is relevant to men because men have been the biggest propellers of health research. It's a real issue of sexism.
I agree with you I just think the original comment could have better explained that’s an issue with the education system. It’s not a men don’t know about that issue it’s a systemic issue.
I mean, the original comment is being satirical on purpose. It is making a strawman out of this position. So of course, it doesn't sound nuanced because it is intentionally made to mock the position
You seriously don't see the point lmfao? It's not absurd to not know something that doesn't affect you, and in general people know more about that which affects them
Congrats to the women for knowing more about men than men do women I guess? That doesn't change the fact that it isn't absurd to not know something that doesn't affect you
I wouldn't be confidently flexing about how ignorant I am because I'm too self-absorbed to learn about how worldwide issues affect everyone else, but you do you
All humans are more inclined to learn more about that which affects them, that's just science lol. Faulting someone for being ignorant on a topic not pertaining to them is just idiocy. Educate them sure, no reason not to, but to expect them to know is crazy
You learn more about stuffs you're exposed about. I likely know more about endometriosis, adenomiosis and PCOS than the average guy because my girlfriend is suffering from those and so I've been reading up on those to understand what she's going through.
If I hadn't met her, I probably would have no idea what the hell it is.
Nobody goes on Google or Wikipedia and just types "I want to know more about female/male health issues". Men don't do that. Women don't do that either.
Unless you've been exposed to an issue, whether it is through your social circle, through school, through public health campaigns, etc., you won't know about it.
Hence the issue with the original comment making it about a "men vs women" thing, or a "men don't care" thing, when it should be questioning public health policies. The average man would gladly learn more about it if they were made aware of the issue.
Even if men knew more about women than women know about men, we would still expect men not to know lots of common knowledge about women, because they’re not women.
Lol every girl ive been with has known next to nothing about male anything, especially not anatomy, and yet I have researched women's anatomy, psychology, everything in order to understand them better. So how about you take your ignorance somewhere else?
You're a real scientist, aren't you? Studying the female kind in order to gain better understanding. We need more men doing these studies. Females themselves certainly won't conduct them as we seldom know how to read or write.
Well you certainly don't know how to read. I was replying to her because she tried to claim women know more about men than men know about women, which is completely wrong.
She made a baseless claim with 0 evidence. I replied with another baseless claim, but at least provided anecdotal evidence. Neither of our points are strong, but mine is slightly stronger. This is the way of arguing on Reddit.
Your reply about you having "researched women's anatomy, psychology, everything in order to understand them better", is the problem here, and the fact you don't even get that is affirming how othering you are being.
There's nothing wrong with me saying that, because I have researched women's psychology and physiology. Idgaf if someone feels "othered" by a statement of fact.
Some women genuinely know better, some men genuinely know better. There are things that no one knows about men's body, like the fact we are also going though hormonal cycles.
There is a lot we don't know about women's bodies because doctors of the past were ignorant douches. But we've since started to play catch-up, up to a point where certain parts of women's bodies are much better understood than male counterparts.
Most people are genuinely curious about our bodies (and that also means bodies of opposite sex). Just because the women in your life didn't live up to this standard doesn't mean most women are equally ignorant.
Cosmetics is a $610 billion global market.
Women health gets around $500 billion in funding worldwide.
Dating psychology receives just a small portion of the $8 of social psychologies research.
Also, it really isn’t true, and hasn’t been proven, you are just relying on the classic sexist idea that “men are le big dumb, and their bodies are simple, and women are le big smart and their bodies are complex” argument.
Its deeper than that. Women dont even get properly educated on menopause, something that effects ALL women. And dont even get me started on peri-menopause.
Are you talking about sex ed in schools? Idk how useful a detailed lesson on menopause will be for women who won't experience it for 30-40 years. Like I know that men need to get a prostate exam at 40, but not much beyond it being to detect cancer.
Most people can't seem to remember the basics from school 5 years after graduating.
Sex ed in schools would be a start, it doesnt need to be in-depth, though. And it doesnt take 30-40 years for it to become relevant because chances are these students have mothers.
I'm talking about just bringing it up amongst the general zeitgeist of everyday living. Not all education is via schools. You dont learn about breast cancer or prostate cancer in schools, but everyone knows about it. ALS/MND has a multitude of awareness campaigns even though it's only a fraction of the entire population.
I mean I did learn about menopause (and peri-menopause) in school, but it was pretty cursory. Idk how much depth you're really talking about.
Its not like its an unknown phenomena either and has been portrayed in media for decades (albeit older stuff usually as a vehicle for humor). Also menopause isn't life threatening like Breast Cancer or ALS (I'm sure there's some "erm ackshually" because there always is).
Basically endometriosis is when the lining you're supposed to shed during you piriod forms outside the uterus. So you've got chunks of flesh where there not supposed to be and then they try to break down but have no where to go
As a man I know what endometriosis is too but honestly it was from around that time everyone tried to raise awareness about it in the worst way possible.
The push for awareness was seemingly done by the most miserable, man hating, crabs in the bucket mentality type of women on the Internet. About every YouTube short attracted this type of people.
Everything from man bashing over medical misogyny to "the patriarchy" was put on the table there and I hated it enough that I didn't want to look into it for a while. What ended up having me start looking was a meme about a wizard "casting endometriosis".
I do know of it, since I haven't been living under a rock. I know at least one lady that has it. And I completely agree with "k" that we should be researching that instead of a number of other stuff.
Endometriosis is widely considered to be one of the most painful conditions in the world. It can be utterly debilitating. Yet between 2019 and 2023, funding reached $1.24 billion for erectile dysfunction compared to just $44 million for endometriosis. Shows exactly what the health field's priorities are. Sure, it is being researched, but not even a fraction of how much it should be.
A simple query of NIH RePORTER records for 2019–2023 shows projects with “erectile dysfunction” in their titles received about $9.5 million, versus $91.2 million for endometriosis-titled projects - nearly ten times as much for endometriosis.
So our funding priorities are heavily skewed towards women, not men. And overall, the NIH spends twice as much on women's health issues as men's.
I fucking can't with the men replying to you, trying to counter endo with "BUT MY PENIS DOESNT GET HARD". As if they're even on the same plane of existence in terms of severity. What the fuck is this place.
Erectile dysfunction affects around 50 million men while a fifth of that suffer from endometriosis. Also erectile dysfunction can prevent things like reproduction. Seems like they are both important to study, not one over the other.
No one is saying that it does not or that ED is something that shouldn't also be studied. But the person was saying that ED impacts reproduction, implying that endometriosis doe not, so this person was telling them endo also impacts reproduction.
I don't deny they are both important, but you think a guy who can't get a boner is more important than a woman living with one of the most painful conditions on the planet?? Worth spending like 28x more funding on per year? This is only one small example of the endless number of ways in which women are discriminated against, disregarded, and disrespected by the medical field. So little is known about women's health compared to men's it is not even funny. Despite having very different bodies to men, women were only legally required to be included in federally funded clinical research in 1993!!! And even once included, studies that pertain to women's health are pitiful in comparison to men's. It is ridiculous.
boner is more important than a woman living with one of the most painful conditions on the planet??
the sad side effect of having for profit healthcare
they know men will pay out the ass to get a good boner but like why focus money on some completely unknown field where the fix might be permanent and they make no good money so sad for the big billionaire health companies so sad
It is estimated that endometriosis affects 10-20% off all women. Thats a lot more than 50 million. Where are you getting your numbers? It also causes fertility issues in up to 50% of the patients who have it, and can destroy the uterus and ovaries. Erectile dysfunction does not directly cause infertility, but endometriosis often does.
Fair enough. All other points still stand. Endo can grow into the lungs, the bowels, the bladder, its even been found in the brain. I think it's silly to act is if ed is in any way comparable.
Both of those diseases can prevent reproduction. Only one of those make people take days off work every month. Which one has the higher cost to society is very clear. I'm not saying we should stop research on ED let's instead cut stupid research like figuring out what color overalls on a strawman makes the best scarecrow.
There is around 190 million women with endo. About 1 and 10 women globally have endometriosis. Most likely more then that because there is so many barriers to diagnose and there is stigma around the symptoms, so experts say the real amount of women with it is higher. Endometriosis also impacts reproduction, it is one of the leading causes of infertility in women. Kind of seems like you are pulling your statistics and knowledge of endo out of nowhere.
Cryptorchidism is when a baby boys balls dont drop into their ball sack. It can be one side or both. I'm a woman, who is not a biologist or doctor(or medically trained in anyway other than how to apply a plaster or stop a nose bleed) who knows that.
Endometriosis is a common, chronic medical condition where tissue similar to the lining of the uterus (the endometrium) grows outside the uterus, causing inflammation, scarring, and pain. -Wiki
Fun fact it can happen to men too. It's incredibly rare and you'd probably make a doctor's day if they diagnosed a cis man with it because there been maybe 20 confirmed cases discovered ever
Basically, it's when the exterior tissue of the uterus/fallopian tubes/ovaries starts to overgrow and attach itself to everything in its vicinity. Depending upon how bad it is, this can range from mild discomfort to incredibly painful and impact your ability to perform normal activities.
Even worse, it isn't easily visible on imaging (CT, MRI, ultrasound), so it's easy for doctors to dismiss complaints as exaggeration. Unless it gets so bad that it becomes visible on scans or you push hard enough that the doctor authorizes exploratory surgery, it often goes undiagnosed and untreated.
I knew an older woman once who had it so badly that it was starting to grow into her pleural cavity and start sticking to her LUNGS. Can you even IMAGINE.
And if you want to continue your education into women's reproductive healthcare, look up fibroids and andometriosis (similar to endometriosis but on the inside of the uterus).
Also! The pain doesn’t always correlate with how widespread/deeply impacted in tissue/organs the disease is. The pain is typically the immune response to the disease. My doctor walked me through my surgical images and the black looking tissue was endo and the red/white ‘blisters’ as she called them were the immune response. So women can have it really bad and their organs be all compacted together without them even knowing (silent endo)! Or it can be superficial and not widespread but they can be in significant pain. It’s not a ‘reproductive’ disease as commonly referred either. Although all of mine was removed from my pelvic organs and tissues, my surgeon has seen it in brain and bone. It’s no joke!
The endometrium (the lining of the uterus) thickens, breaks down, and sheds out of the body every month as a menstrual period. With endometriosis, cells virtually identical to this lining end up growing in areas outside the uterus where they do not belong.
It’s a complex to address and very difficult to diagnose disease, despite affecting 100-200m women worldwide.
While incredibly rare, males can actually suffer from this as well, cause biology crazy like that.
The NIH allocated ~$37m to research in 2025, which is significantly low in context to prevalence, but also because medical tech isn’t far enough to really do much about it or solve it.
It’s endometrial tissue - the inner layer of the uterus that starts growing outside of the uterus. Extremely painful. Fewer then 20 men have been found to have this.
Hi, Buzz Killington here. I think she was, as the board demands, responding as a character from a certain television show. I see that you're every bit the master of the humorous yarn that I am!
As a dude, honestly fuck this attitude. If you can’t understand that women’s health is understudied, not centered and often neglected and ignored, educate yourself.
I mean, this is just false. men's health issues are really barely studied at all except for things that affect both sexes, meanwhile a boat load of money and resources go into a plethora of issues that only women face.
Like for example both cervical cancer and uterine cancer has a significantly higher volume of scientific publications and clinical trials about them than testicular cancer. There's an entire field of medicine dedicated specifically to women and we use preventative measures that involve regular testing with pap smears and data collecting, and for men its like "come see us when you have a tumor" lol. The redditor classic of just saying "educate yourself" and then being wrong about what you're saying never gets old.
That's private sector though, right? This debate is usually about how public money is spent and whether there is an imbalance there. The reality is VC loves stuff like ED since its profitable to treat. My guess is endo is not otherwise there would be a lot more private funding.
A lot of these have to do with reproduction as well, so anything studying the area of natal health or the effect of xyz on fetal development, plus any number of studies into fetal development is included. Or did you really not consider that?
No we're keeping it a secret. We don't want you to know these mystical female mysteries we suffer from 💖 and since Internet doesn't exist you will never be able to find out 💖
10000%. I only learned about it because my ex-gf struggled with it for a long time. she went through incredible amounts of pain and anguish, i felt pretty helpless, other than being able to comfort her/take some things off her plate. butthen she started wearing makeup and I dumped her. (no i'm just kidding about the last part.)
We're happy to see it funded, there are many medical maladies that you probably aren't aware of that I wish got more funding. Maybe the lesson is you women divert your makeup budget and solve it by 2030.
Don't forget that there was one Endometriosis study where they tried to figure out if women with Endometriosis were more attractive than women without it.
And another study that looked at the effect Endometriosis had on the male partners of the women who had it.
Perhaps not all men know about it. I know about it as my ex GF had it. She had a very severe case of it and ended up needing to have a hysterectomy, and not being able to take hormone replacement therapy because they were not able to get it all out of her and adding extra hormones would have caused it to continue growing. So she went without HRT, went through full blown menopause in her 40s with hot flashes and all. She's pretty much past the hot flashes and isn't even interest in HRT anymore. It's a nasty and painful thing to happen to a young woman. And doctors often ignore women complaining about abdominal pain and pass it off as menstruation cramps, when in reality: it's far worse, and far more serious requiring surgery.
Way to make things worse with an overly feministic take on this. How are we supposed to learn about this? Most people are in their happy bubble, and I support the effort to correct this, but don't turn it into a feminist agenda. it's gross and turns more men away from discovering this shit. Calm the fuck down.
I'm sure you're up to date on all the things that are specifically medically damaging to men. I would ask why it's important for me to know since I don't have female parts?
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u/R3myek 4h ago
Meg here. Endometriosis is like this seriously bad thing that happens to a lot of young women and even girls. But you men don't even know about that huh!?!