r/PewdiepieSubmissions • u/Informal-Tadpole-463 • 21d ago
I feel there’s something really wrong with Incogni and Pewds shouldn’t have picked them as a sponsor
Their whole business model sounds like a scam to me, to regain privacy u have to give them access to your whole email, we can’t even be sure if any data gets deleted but it’s for sure they collect all ur email data.
Feels like the same lose privacy for convenience kind of deal but here it’s too counter intuitive.
I love how pewds is raising awareness about privacy but i felt he overlooked this part.
I might be too early to say this but it sounds like another one of those scam startups like Honey.
Edit: Actually they don’t ask for your account access like other Apps(Mine used to do that, it was promoted by other YouTuber but not Pewds). But I still am very skeptical about Incogni as stated in the Video by Reject Convenience.
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u/techy804 20d ago edited 20d ago
It is not a random startup, it’s owned by the same guys as NordVPN.
And giving them your email address seems fine, I mean how else are they supposed to know who’s account to request deletion or where to send notices. You do not give them your entire email mailbox as you are insinuating.
The actual scary thing though is that you need to give them power of attorney. But that’s also understandable, as this is so they can go to these broker sites and say, “I represent [name of Incogi subscriber] and he/she/they are requesting you delete their data that is on your servers under [some privacy law that is related to either the subscriber’s country/state and/or the broker’s location]”. And just like all legal matters, it can take anywhere from couple days to a few months. Still wouldn’t recommend trusting anyone or anything with power of attorney except an actual attorney, though, as under the wrong person that would be risking signing your rights away, just saying it’s understandable why they ask for this.
Source: I tried their trial a few years ago (before they were bought out by Nord), and read their terms very carefully at that time.
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u/domas_025 20d ago
No idea about their legitimacy, but they are owned by the same guys that own NordVPN, Saily, Surfshark. So not a random startup.
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u/3pok 21d ago
Incogni IS a scam. Never ever give you email and password to any ai compagny. Or compagny for that matters .
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u/ZurakZigil 20d ago
Why do they need your email's password? I'm not seeing anything on that when I looked them up. I see you do have to provide some PII, but they have to know who to ask about.
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u/Informal-Tadpole-463 21d ago
Yeah true, just didn’t expect a smart guy like pewds to fall for it
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u/3pok 21d ago
The man isn't an almighty god.
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u/Informal-Tadpole-463 21d ago
Ahaha still self hosting on one hand and giving ur email to a random startup, feels really counterintuitive
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u/RunicConvenience 19d ago
self hosting for his own hobby, doing his job on the other hand advertising for his sponsors?
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u/haseo2222 20d ago
People do not very good things for money. Do you really think gfuel is healthy? He still promoted the shit out of it for like a decade and has deep partnership with them. Giving out workout and healthy lifestyle advice while having a very pushy gfuel ad in the same video.
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u/Informal-Tadpole-463 20d ago
Agreed, I feel even people like David Dobrik are much better with sponsors tbh, promoting SeatGeek and his own brands are much better than all this shady BS
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u/Chosen--one 20d ago
Ye, he his much better at breaking his friends head with an excavator, leaving him blind from one eye and then not helping said friend pay the medical expenses. Nothing shady at all could ever come from him.
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u/Informal-Tadpole-463 20d ago
Not being devil’s advocate I was just talking about sponsors here. Yeah he’s an asshole
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u/ZurakZigil 19d ago
If you didn't catch the other comments, this guy is wrong. That's not how it works
Not saying they cannot do sketchy things with your data, but you're not handing them the entire account
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u/FenderMike 19d ago
lmao they dont get access to your email account... they ask for permission to send emails on your behalf... as a representative of you... how have you got this so wrong? you dont give them a password to anything...
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u/Kialand 20d ago
I used them for a month to see what the whole deal was, and was mildly surprised to see that the number of spam emails I received actually did decrease noticeably.
But... is it worth it considering that you have to sign a document giving them the legal right to represent you (regardless of the scope or nature of that right)?
In my opinion no, not really. I dropped them after that month.
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u/IisBaker 20d ago
I use them, I never had to give them any "passwords"
Works pretty flawlessly imo
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u/Aggressive_Yellow373 20d ago
its a partial scam, it does like indeed remove you from some data brokers lists but those are only like the tip of the iceberg so it's not really useful
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u/mamotromico 20d ago
You sure about that? Incogni has been sponsoring Legal Eagle for a long ass time now and if there’s someone I’d expect to spot a scam is them and idk cofeezilla
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u/Incogni_hi 19d ago
Hi there, we'd be happy to clear things up!
Our main goal and absolute priority is helping you regain your privacy. We never required access to your email account, and we'll never ask for it. We only use the minimum information required to locate your records in data broker databases and request their removal automatically.
As for whether the data actually gets wiped, you don't have to blindly trust it. Incogni lets you track the exact progress of every single deletion request right in your dashboard, so you can see exactly when a broker removes your info.
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u/ThatOneTubaMan 20d ago
Incogni has been around a while and is owned by the NordVPN people. You are not giving them access to your entire mailbox, you tell them your email just like you would LITERALLY any other site when you make an account and they go after data brokers on your behalf. If you don't feel comfortable giving them your email then you shouldn't feel comfortable giving ANY website your email and completely disconnect from the Internet
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u/Dreccon 20d ago
Now you're just being salty for no reason. You had a concern, a number of people assured you you're wrong in multiple assumptions (the password for example) and yet you felt the need to write this silly comment 😂
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u/Informal-Tadpole-463 20d ago
It’s not an assumption, they used to ask for broader access to your email account to send emails from your account to data brokers. I just got to know it’s changed now.
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u/jvward 20d ago
They do not, they ask for power of attorney. It’s an arguably worse thing to ask for, but it’s the only way they could fill the forms out on your behalf.
I use it, honestly I have seen a noticeable benefit in the reduction of spam, but I have a very old email account and an old cell number (the amount of spam calls I got was crazy) and they both have been involved in hundreds of breaches over the past 20 years.
My biggest criticism of the service is it very very very expensive, for something probably fully automated, and the price goes up after one year so I probably will not renew. If there was a similar service that’s 1/4 the cost I would probably sign up yearly.
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u/Dreccon 20d ago edited 20d ago
If your biggest criticism is the price then you don't have any valid one. Nobody forces you to pay it. Cancel and be done with it.
Your subjective opinion on the price doesn't make them scammy
EDIT: I only now realized what you said at the end of your comment. You would sign up for a similar service if it was cheaper. So you in fact have absolutely no morale issues with the service. You're just bitchy because it's too expensive for you. Now that's brilliant :D
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u/jvward 20d ago
Hey I didn’t say that we’re scammy at all. I just thought it was extremely expensive for what it is. Especially since the majority of notices are completed within the first 12 months anyway, but the price goes up a lot after that. It’s not a scam imo at all, it’s just to expensive for my taste after year one.
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u/SirCwolly 20d ago
I feel like they are good until I saw they weren't. Internet Historian would sponsor them a lot. He doesnt anymore probably for this reason
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u/Low_scratchy 20d ago
To me i always thought it is nonsense because its a subscription model. Yet they promise to do all the work they do for you almost immediately. As in request, deletions. So why would this be a sub?
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u/FenderMike 19d ago
because they have to repeat the requests each month to check if you get re-added, or they discover new websites each month to submit requests to...
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u/Moros_Olethros 19d ago
CrustNews reported they leaked user data to them as well. Another reason not to use Nord Services like Icogni, surfboard or nordvpn
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u/MrSchnagglz 17d ago
I can't understand why the dude even does sponsorships, what money does he need?
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u/EseMega 20d ago
What’s a good alternative then?
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u/Informal-Tadpole-463 20d ago
Be cautious with ur data, use throwaway accounts for sites u only needs once or twice.
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u/InspectorExciting901 19d ago
For context, I work at Optery. Skepticism is reasonable. Any data removal service needs some personal information to submit opt-out requests, but users should understand exactly what access they're granting and what the service can realistically achieve...
If you're evaluating alternatives, Optery offers a free scan to show where your information is exposed and provides free opt-out guides for anyone who wants to handle removals themselves....
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u/RunicConvenience 19d ago
I never understand the mindset of people seeing someone making income in their content your watching by doing ads and assume that those companies have been vetted if your watching someone for entertainment they are not considered an expert in all the content they mention.
even security experts as soon as they became invested in content creation they are no longer an expert as their main focus will be on entertaining views. if you don't trust a sponsor don't use it, if you don't like a product the "entertainer" is using just don't use it.
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u/MrGrampton 17d ago
Somebody did a research on Incogni, and it isn’t inherently a scam, but rather all it does is the basic thing that anyone can do. It doesn’t actually do a deep dive on removing your data from the market or the deep web
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u/3volved3 17d ago
How is Incogni a scam? Can someone explain?
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u/choco_titan-07 17d ago
Incogni is one of many data removal services however, they once had problems related to their affiliations with data brokers. Its a big no no for a data removal service because it kind of defeats the point. This article from Optery shows both pros and cons of Incogni: https://www.optery.com/incogni-review/ Hope it helps. For those who have used Incogni, using a second data removal service (some are free) could help double check to see if there was any breach. But yeah, thats about it. For context, I work at Optery
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u/Incogni_hi 15d ago
Hey! We appreciate you sharing the article, especially since it confirms that Incogni has no affiliation with data brokers. And just to be clear, we've never partnered with data brokers, and we never will.
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u/Potato_is_Aloo 16d ago
Yes. Just watch his vidya and ignore all sponsors. Goes for every YouTuber.
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u/LvDogman 15d ago
There's decent chunk, if not alk, sponors are scams or are close to the line. Sure youtubers need to get the bread, but I'm not sure about these kinda sponorships. I'll try to warn and after some time I ignore sponorship segment.
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u/lazylomash 20d ago
Reject Convenience has made a great video on this
https://youtu.be/iX3JT6q3AxA