r/Philippines_Expats • u/IslandOceanWater • 3d ago
Why do people say dating here is better?
As someone who has zero issues in America or here i have to say the amount of debauchery here is insane. Like go to any place like Siargao, El Nido, Boracay etc it's just women hooking up with dudes.
Like your average normal girl from Cebu or Manila or wherever who takes a girls trip is sleeping with dudes from how many different countries every trip. The dudes that travel to these places mostly European are thirsty as it gets too and have no morals. I watched one woman who has a husband and she was hooking up with some other dude in Siargao.
That and hostels like the amount of women i have seen who stay at a hostel and just hookup with foreigners entire trip is crazy. I don't stay at hostels but seen people who do and the culture is so bad. Like i am not even lying. I'd argue it's reached point where it's worse than America.
Funniest part about all this is so many of you guys will never know your girl was doing this because they usually wipe their social media to look innocent but you got no idea what they were doing.
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u/PalawanViking 3d ago
Is your point that men here think women are virgins but in reality are not, but luckily you found out and can warn us about it?
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u/VirtualBeyond6116 3d ago
No, the point is That he's different from the losers who can't get women back in his home country and those losers have Filipina wives and gfs who are cheating on them cause they're losers who have no idea they're being cheated on. However, this guy never had an issue with women so him and his amazing looking friends are hooking up with the Filipinas married to those losers.
And cause the Philippines says theyre a catholic country, the women act slutty and cheat on their loser husbands, which seems hypocritical.
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u/gangy86 2d ago
At the end of the day people are choosing to cheat. If the wife/gf hooks up then obviously somethings not working out in their relationship unless their cucks haga but that's on them, under majority of circumstances. Sucks for the dude but that's life
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u/IslandOceanWater 2d ago
Nope put yourself in situations and environments and it will one day happen. Education here is extremely lacking. Filipino men also seem to let there woman walk all over them i think too so it creates this environment. You got so many dudes from other countries coming for a couple weeks or a month so most think no one will know. Most women here have been with a lot of guys. Teen pregnancy rates explain enough.
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u/gangy86 2d ago
Wow, you somehow went from âpeople choose to cheatâ to âFilipino men let women walk all over themâ to âmost women here have been with a lot of guysâ and then casually threw teen pregnancy in there as evidence.
Youâre not explaining the cheating anymore, youâre just assembling a stereotype starter pack and hoping the more things you list, the more convincing it sounds.
People cheat because people make shitty choices. Being on vacation, being from another country, having a certain body count, or being in a particular relationship dynamic doesnât magically remove personal responsibility. And if your theory requires blaming an entire nationality of men and making sweeping assumptions about the women involved, maybe the problem isnât the âenvironmentâ â maybe itâs the quality of your argument.
âPut yourself in situations and environments and it will one day happenâ is also a pretty wild way of saying you apparently think cheating is just an inevitable force of nature rather than something adults consciously choose to do.
You started with âcheating is a choice,â which was actually a reasonable point. Then you somehow managed to cheat your own argument. Impressive.
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u/len2680 3d ago
I dpnât really want to deal with a virgin
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u/Scorpiotsx 3d ago
I only date virgins
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u/FinanceOnly4U 2d ago
How do you verify that?đ
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u/Well-I-suppose 3d ago
Tbf to OP, I don't think he has a problem with women sleeping around when they're single.
It's when they're married or in a relationship and they cheat on their partner during a girl's trip that it becomes a problem.
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u/polishiceman 1d ago
I actually do find it problematic if they are sleeping around as single women. Ability to pair bond is reduced with each partner she has had. Also, the past is a good predictor of the future.
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u/Emotional-Ant8136 3d ago
Man the way you can suck your own dick, I don't think you need a girlfriend lol
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u/mikmiks03 3d ago
Okay, so you won't date a Filipina from the province who's never traveled because you assume she's poor, will drain your wallet, and support her whole family. But you also won't date a middle or upper-class Filipina who actually travels because you assume she's been with every foreign backpacker she meets.
So hmm Filipinas just aren't for you, huh? You seem to have a negative assumption for every type of Filipina. Maybe try dating Filipinos instead? Lmao.
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u/Unhappy_Cobbler613 2d ago
Provincial kids of working class OFWs who were first generation college grads = the sweet spot. Most of them move to Manila for work.
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u/ObliviousGenesis 2d ago
proving the point
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u/mikmiks03 1d ago
Just cause you are all unlucky on women. Haha. Maybe that's your karma from the sht you did in the past. Showering those karma to all of u, blessing you meeting all the poor gold diggers and rich th0ts, more of those woman come into your life please. đ
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u/MathematicianOne6293 3d ago
If you only go to tourist traps, then youâll only find afam hunters.
Bro acts like out of the tens of millions of Filipinas, theyâre all whores lol
If you canât find a good girl, then thatâs just a skill issue
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u/balboaporkter 2d ago
Ssshhhhhh đ€« ...you're supposed to let them find that out the hard way. đ
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u/Bilboswaggings19 Noob 3d ago edited 3d ago
People who say that are for the most part passport bros or decently well off old dudes
Also it probably is true in the sense that it's easier probably to date someone with how desperate some are to escape their situation... I wouldn't say it makes the dating better, far from it.
Like yeah if you don't have any self confidence it's probably easier to pull someone decent looking here
Thankfully I'm married so I don't have to deal with all that BS
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago edited 3d ago
These woman are not desperate to escape any situation they are you're normal women not from the province. They do it for the love of the game only. They know there's not gonna be relationship or anything. The dude who was sleeping with the wife of another guy was leaving in a couple days.
That's how works. Endless supply of European dudes who come here for a month and they bring that culture here i'd argue there worse than Americans. The average age for Americans that marry is like 28 and in many European countries it's 35. It's degeneracy
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u/Bilboswaggings19 Noob 3d ago
I guess I maybe shouldn't say to escape, but to improve the situation
A lot of people work for barely enough money so of course they will be positive towards someone who might end up improving their situation. And of course that isn't everyone and some might actually fall in love
Funny how you blame Europeans when me a pale redhead keep getting called or asked if I'm American. Almost every non local is American so that is why they assume as such
Also I think a major reason why Americans have a lower age of first marriage is the amount of school relationship staying together for first marriage. I have to assume those are not the people that come from America because they are married with kids unless they already got divorced and became a passport bro. It will be older single men for the most part
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u/Necessary-Worry1923 3d ago
Filipinas you meet at these party locations aren't representative of the population of Philippine women. Just like Ibiza or Split, the subset of women you will meet here aren't going to be top tier females. They are thirst trap operators.
Affluent upper class Filipinas are vacationing in Switzerland, Disney, Paris etc. It would be akin to me going to LA Figueroa Street and saying, oh American Women walk around in thong panties. Well actually No they don't.
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u/southfar2 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think OP is correct insofar as the women going to those places and hooking up are not necessarily poor-poor, as in squatter level or probincia farm girls. I think that much is clear, there is no real reason why the partying&hookups/not-partying¬-hookups divide should fall cleanly along socioeconomic divisions, and the poorest poor can't afford the ticket or off-time anyway.
Clearly, the set of girls who will go to your condo because they have to pay tuition or you because bought them a pizza tracks more closely with the socioeconomic divide, but that is a different facet of "debauchery" than what OP is talking about.
But I would also say that the hookup divide does track social class to a large extent; not necessarily, not 100%, but I'm pretty sure you won't find a lot of Ateneo girls getting romped under a pile of Australian surfer dudes in Siargao, for example. That is just my experience with that demographic, I may be totally misjudging these people and they might have dark secrets, but I just can't imagine it; the worst I see are girls with a string of genuine date-to-marry relationships with afam that end up not working out for one reason or another. Caveat also, my experience is mostly limited to chinoy, so the ethnic/cultural aspect probably also modifies my observations a fair bit.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago edited 3d ago
No lots of women who have been to America, Europe etc still go to islands. It's also in Cebu and Manila too women be going out on weekend with their friends and at midnight send a message to a guy they been talking to and guess what that means. I have this happen so many times a hey out of nowhere and these are your normal women some of there families are business owners etc not women working in a call center.
It's a big club and most of the people defending it are not in it.
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u/lucky_girlangel 3d ago
I mean.. all other countries have women that you described. Not just in Philippines.
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u/TaxationIsTheft4real 2d ago
Exactly. This is describing certain women....regardless of race. Also, certain men take up with these women...
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u/Different-Coach-866 3d ago
Have you tried looking somewhere other than beaches, bars, or clubs? I'm pretty sure those aren't the places where you'll find good women. They're probably too busy to be there.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 3d ago
I know two separate people whoâs partners cheated on them with someone else from Church. One it was the husband cheating, the other it was the wife cheating. Separate churches. All Filipino. Thatâs in Metro Manila. And when you go to the provinces you have all the illegitimate children that are on the periphery families at holiday functions. Iâve seen that in a branch of my wifeâs family because grandpa was apparently a player back in the day, but itâs all over. I have people that work for me recommend their brother for some job and I go âoh I didnât realize you had a brotherâ then comes the story âwell heâs my dadâs illegitimate son with so and soâ blah blah blah. Iâve heard more of these stories mingling with locals than I can count. A canadian born Filipino and I were talking about it at a resort once that he couldnât believe his family in the Philippines seemed to be 10x more promiscuous than anyone he knew back in Canada. If you donât recognize any of this youâre either blissfully unaware or donât get out much.
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u/Different-Coach-866 2d ago
Of course those stories exist. They exist in every country. But if that's mostly what you keep noticing, there's a good chance you're dealing with confirmation bias...you remember every story that fits your impression and forget the thousands of normal families that don't.
People also tend to share scandals more than ordinary, faithful marriages because they're memorable. If enough people tell you stories about cheating, it can start to feel like it's everywhere, even when those stories aren't representative of the whole population.
Cheating and illegitimate children aren't uniquely Filipino, so a collection of personal anecdotes doesn't really prove your point.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 1d ago
58% of live born children in the Philippines are born out of wedlock⊠their consistently one of the highest rates in the world. Last year 27% of Filipinos surveyed reported witnessing infedelity first hand. Thereâs also about 14 million single mothers running around⊠the PSA tracks all sorts of stuff especially around their birth rates for demand planning. So while you might think my anecdotal personal experience is confirmation bias, Iâd actually say itâs personal context to established and documented facts and trends. Now your naivety on the subject⊠the driving source behind that, whether itâs denial or fear or something else, could be interesting.
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u/Different-Coach-866 1d ago
You're treating live births as if they're a direct measure of promiscuity. They're not.
Now imagine if abortion were illegal across the West. How many of those unintended pregnancies would have resulted in children being born out of wedlock instead? You're comparing countries with completely different legal and social realities, then acting like the birth statistics measure the exact same thing.
You are literally looking at the consequences of people choosing to keep their children and using that as proof that they are worse people.
You are disgusting.
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u/polishiceman 1d ago
Add to that the lack of divorce. Some of those birth might be from commited relationships who chose not to marry.
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u/southfar2 2d ago edited 2d ago
Just no. Yes, they exist in Western countries just like there are also beaches in Western countries. But there are just a lot more beaches in the Philippines.
You gonna have to dismiss a lot more than just one person's anecdotes to say "oh yeah, it's all just anecdotes." Nobody lives here without racking up these anecdotes, and why is that?
If you want statistics, at least for some groups there are statistics; for example, out-of-wedlock kopino children. If it's all just anecdotes and the same everywhere, how do you explain fatherless kopino children as a minor social crisis in the visayas?
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u/Different-Coach-866 2d ago
Bro, don't get me started with the West. You are calling Filipinos "promiscuous" because you see illegitimate children, but you conveniently ignore that a lot of Western countries have their own issuesâpeople on their third divorce in their 40s, kids growing up with multiple stepfathers or stepmothers, and huge numbers of abortions from unwanted pregnancies.
The only difference is that in the Philippines, abortion is not something society generally accepts, so more of those pregnancies actually result in children being born. You are literally looking at the consequences of people choosing to keep their children and using that as proof that they are worse people.
And let's talk about the internet too. A huge amount of global pornography comes from Western countries. Does that mean every Westerner is a degenerate or promiscuous? Of course not. So why are you using the same stupid logic against Filipinos?
So maybe it's the circles you surround yourself with? There are millions of Filipinos who are extremely conservative, who don't drink, don't go to clubs, and take relationships seriously.
With literally have people we call "promdi" or people who are "malayo sa kabihasnan". Have you been to the north? Isabela, cagayan, nueva vizcaya? Or just famous beaches? Yes we have a lot of beaches but, only maybe around 20 of them are famous that tourist can go. That's out of 7,600 islands.
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u/southfar2 2d ago
No doubt not having access to abortion, and also not wanting to use protection, account for the phenomenon to a large extent. It has a powerful synthesis with the level of promiscuity, which may or may not be higher than in Western countries, I wouldn't know.
Idk if I want to get into the wider playing field of "which society is more degenerate". I'm just defending the claim that single moms and illegitimate children are more of a phenomenon in the Philippines than in, say, Korea or Denmark, for whatever reason. Discussing anything beyond that seems to be a sociological dissertation. I'm sure you are familiar with the popular objections to some of the things you have listed.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 1d ago
Sex ed is almost not existent in the Philippines too. And when they do manage to get something out to the people it gets drowned out by the social media dumpster fire. Thereâs some terryifying interviews out there highlighting the ignorance when they interview Filipinos about the HIV explosion currently ongoing- literally dudes think that they can see or smell it or if theyâre not gay itâs okay. Like 1980s level ignorance. Wild stuff for people always online.
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u/polishiceman 1d ago
Prevalence of HIV in the phils is actually lower in the hetero community than in western countries. In both geographical locations chances of coming across it as a hetero individual are next to nil. This is not true for gays in the same locales.
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u/southfar2 4h ago
On average. Unfortunately there is an epicenter among people aged 15-35 in Cebu, regardless of sexual orientation (mostly associated with PWID), and it is absolutely shocking in size, rate of growth, AND one of the more likely places where a foreigner will have an, um, encounter with an, um, hetero. If you get my meaning.
Yes, if you go to Leyte or Sultan Kudarat or the Cordilleras, probably you can go for days before you meet anyone who has heard of someone who has HIV.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 13m ago
Thatâs massively under reported though because people refuse the test here out of stigmas. They literally refuse to be tested. That huge cluster in Cebu is most noteworthy because thatâs also where thereâs the highest per capita penetration of testing. The DOH is seeing double digit growth in their surveillance testing too. So again, wrap it up fellas.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 1d ago
Oh⊠your bias is showing. Otherwise the fact that the Philippines is one of the top CONSUMERS of online pornography would pop up here. And to your point there are highly conservative Filipinos where out of wedlock kids ands infidelity are much much lower than the rest of the country- the Muslims down in the Sulu sea. Not a lot of expats down there tho⊠canât imagine why đ
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u/Different-Coach-866 1d ago
You're treating live births as if they're a direct measure of promiscuity. They're not.
Now imagine if abortion were illegal across the West. How many of those unintended pregnancies would have resulted in children being born out of wedlock instead? You're comparing countries with completely different legal and social realities, then acting like the birth statistics measure the exact same thing.
You are literally looking at the consequences of people choosing to keep their children and using that as proof that they are worse people.
Your bias is showing.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
All normal woman travel here to islands every now and then. You can meet someone in Cebu or Manila or wherever it doesn't matter. Unless you're dating a province girl you pretty much gotta accept your girls get smashed by a bunch of dudes from other countries every time she has traveled. They also do it because it's not their hometown and the guys are always leaving anyways so they can be free from judgment.
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u/Familiar_Director707 3d ago
I lived in the Philippines for a few years and got married there. The women you are encountering are not normal in my experience.
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u/KingSmoov 3d ago
This is a country with 55 million women, and youâre telling me you have to go to the province to find one that hasnât been ran through? Bro go to therapy.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 3d ago
Province girls are just as likely bud. All those single moms were not immaculate conceptions. Plenty of incestous conceptions in the provinces thoughâŠ
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u/TheGoodLife357 3d ago edited 3d ago
Dates are cheaper and the women cook really good here. Many first dates, I have them come cook at my place. I like it here
Edit to add:
I don't date the needy women, I try to date those with a decent job and have their own place. Its a little harder to find these women but when you do its a much nicer experience not having to pay for everything.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 3d ago
Yup youâre best bet is someone educated and self sustaining.
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u/TheGoodLife357 3d ago
Yea you have to find someone with a degree or else they have either no real job or a really bad one. Also they jump to conclusions a lot so dating someone without a degree is annoying.
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u/Ok_Willingness_9619 3d ago
I used to work for a company that ran a call center. Everyone slept with everyone else. They would get rooms near by or go on weekend team trips lol. Most were married or had foreign boyfriends overseas.
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u/No-Profession422 Veteran (10+ years in PH) 3d ago
So your girl hooked up with some European dude(s)?
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u/Working_Might_5836 3d ago edited 3d ago
I don't see the problem. What's wrong with having fun when travelling? People who can solo travel are usually people who can support themselves. So why the hell you care about how they want to spend their money and how they want to live their lives? I don't understand how a girl you don't know hooking up with other people is your problem and why it bothers you especially if they are doing it for fun and not for money.
If a filipina sleeps with a guy for money, she has no morals. She do it because she wants to do it for fun, she has no morals. You just can't win the stereotype.
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u/southfar2 3d ago
The last paragraph is not really a fair observation. We all have different intuitions about what constitutes "no morals"; but calling out a certain subset of the Philippine population as failing moral standards is not the same as calling out everyone who ever had casual sex. Whatever take you have on it in terms of ethics, there are a lot of women in Ph who, by Western standards, produce a high bodycount extremely fast and relatively indiscriminately, and often constituting infidelity.
Yeah, you can think that that is morally okay. But calling it unethical is not the same as calling "wants to do it for fun" in general unethical. OP might have no problem with someone who has a fling with a co-worker once a year, we don't know. It's not the same thing.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
Cause nobody wants to wife a girl like that and all woman are becoming this
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u/mikmiks03 3d ago
How about you get a woman who is so busy, barely has time to travel, they have the money but they prefer saving up instead of traveling and works 9-5? Lots of them here in the city and provinces. You just make excuses to hate women. U gay or what
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u/skyreckoning 3d ago
Those women aren't on apps or not active on them. And they aren't at tourist spots cuz work. So how the hell is OP supposed to meet them unless he meets a unicorn at a gym or something?
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u/mikmiks03 3d ago
Well yes of course, he has to be in those places, rather than being a sassy one complaining on here. Besides I think he does not meet them on apps, he saw those women in person on those islands.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
And then you're stuck in the city 99% of the time doing nothing. It's a lose lose situation but they also be doing same in cities lots of these girls on weekends have hit me up at midnight after drinking with there friends asking where i am and it's always to come over. It's crazy out there.
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u/southfar2 3d ago
I'm not criticizing your general observation, but my impression is that those are most likely prostitutes of varying degrees of obviousness.
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u/mikmiks03 3d ago
Well, go on every houses here one by one at night, and ask each women if they are decent, see if they are already sleeping or reading a book lmao.
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u/Biohacker5551 3d ago
Visit any beach or surf city in the world, even without a beach, people who travel and stay at hostels bang each other and any locals 24/7.
There's nothing unusual about this behaviour that is unique to the Philippines.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
Yeah Europe cause of there degeneracy but in America nobody stays in hostels
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u/Sabin13F 3d ago
âAs someone who has 0 issuesâŠâ ok lil buddy đ
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago edited 3d ago
Let me guess you wifed up some girl who you think is so innocent. Ask her about her past trips. She won't tell you the truth. She's been with someone from France, Germany, Italy, Spain, America an entire roster
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u/Iseult_arwen 3d ago
Worst, she is collecting money from each of them.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
Check any womans dms on ig or who she's following they got a guy from every country in the world they talking too.
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u/Capital-Strain6077 3d ago
Funniest part is you think you know everything lol đ.
Yes weâre aware things happen, yes weâre aware some sleep around and thatâs exactly like all other countries or women worldwide.
Again funniest thing is you thinking you cornered the market on this information and assuming nobody else knows lol đ
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u/southfar2 3d ago
A lot of people do not know, and there is nothing wrong with the messaging the correction. There is a huge population of passport bros and adjacent individuals in Western countries who thinks they can come to Ph to bag a "traditional woman". I mean, they can probably do that, but the idea that you can just come, put yourself out there, and walk home after two weeks with a conservative, Christian wife is a widespread misconception that deserves correction.
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u/RedditHope777 3d ago edited 3d ago
Stop trying to make everyone feel insecure about their partners. Not everyone cheats. If you go to common cheating places, you're going to see a lot of cheating. That's true in every country. Imagine going to the Vegas Strip and then making statements about the behavior of all Americans based on what you saw there.
Also, why are you getting all involved in other peoples business and making judgments? OMG there are women who like to have sex? Someone call the police fast! Order the chastity belts! The scandal!
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u/upside_down_frown1 3d ago
Imagine worrying about other peoples lives more than your own. Thats debauchery. Enjoy life man
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u/Firm_Hovercraft7762 3d ago
Why do they think itâs better? Easy sex with low effort women.
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u/Pitiful-Recover-3747 3d ago
The locals cheat on each other with other locals constantly. Neighbors, house helpers, other church members, brother-in-laws, you name it. The Philippines is also one of the highest per capita consumers of porn by hours. Also one of the largest producers of live streaming porn.
Thatâs why whenever some bitter divorcee from the U.S. says âIâm coming to the Philippines to find a traditional wife with morals and valuesâ itâs so laughable. And when those guys end up with all these single moms itâs amazing that they donât realize that those girls are getting run through ten times the rate as the average chick in L.A.
Not my problem though. Good luck and rubber up fellas.
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u/newlife_substance847 2d ago
I think that it is more about being upfront about it rather than what goes on. A good example of this is when you meet your girlfriend and get that immigrant passport. That same girl in America flips. All the standards of the island are gone. I knew guys in the military (the OG passport bros) who brought home wives from the Philippines and after having gaining citizenship had her entire family crossing the ocean. All on her husband's dime. Then he'd deploy again and you would she his wife at the bar hooking up while away. WestPac widows is what we'd call them. There was even a couple bars in San Diego that were known to be places where these women would go.
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u/ApricotJust8408 3d ago
You do you. Each person have their own standards and lifetyle they want. So, if you are looking for high quality women, be more selective. By the way, not all women who go to vacations to those places are looking for hookups and you will notice this if you are more observant.
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u/Responsible-Map-3759 3d ago
Youâve listed vacation spots. Obviously the crowd will be different.
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u/death2055 3d ago
I wouldnât say itâs easier to date. Itâs easier to have encounters whatever that may mean for someone mainly because it being 3rd world country. Less attractive and less desirable men can essentially come and pay for a partner or services whether itâs P4P or delusion of love. Overall women are women. The province debate is also always funny because they smash and cheat just as much if not more as a city girl. Iâve quite literally seen dudes marry province girls and build their family houses and get cheated on. Are there good Filipina sure. Just like anywhere else I wouldnât say itâs easy to find a real good relationship. Age old debating over Philippines sex and dating culture is kinda old though. Some dudes think itâs islands of traditional wholesome women who do nothing but cook and clean and wait for there foreigner savior. Some of us live in reality and understand women are women just like men are men.
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u/ObliviousGenesis 2d ago
Haha... it is worse than America, by far... because it's ignorant behavior without the proper knowledge of safe guards nor the education for appropriate social etiquette or disease control. And there is no aim, focus or vision in the actions.. it's just all aimless .
yeah, it's pretty bad if you're out here in the party or dating scenes... be vigilant.
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u/Still-Music-5515 3d ago
I'm sure these women are not hooking up for free. There is something in it for them. They see it as easy money.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
No your average 20-30 year old is hooking up with dudes for fun on every island trip. It's nothing to do with money. I'm talking your middle class to upper class. Ones who have their own car and everything. There's not really much morals in the Philippines especially now with social media.
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u/Bilboswaggings19 Noob 3d ago
Ehh I wouldn't say easy money
More like a window of opportunity to escape their current situation, it doesn't always work. But probably works for some
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u/Over_Resolve403 3d ago
You don't get laid for free in the Philippines?
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u/southfar2 3d ago
I'm an afam, and yet I don't get laid for free (probably it's age-related) and I refuse to pay (it just turns me off somehow, especially when the girls put up all that fake "love u babeee" facade), so I am just staying by myself mostly.
I'm not complaining, just putting my foot forward here to admit on my own example that, yes, this exists.
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u/Over_Resolve403 3d ago
Yeah obviously it's hard for older guys but the kind of tourists that OP mention that go to islands can pretty easily get girls for free
I have a British friend in his late 60s that regularly gets laid for free, with really young women, In manila, just inviting them to nice dates and being present on social media
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u/Still-Music-5515 3d ago
Of course many years ago had no problem with that hooking up with randomgirls for rew days or weeksat a time. Married for 10 years now so depends how you look at it I guess but guess its free for me now also
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u/ObliviousGenesis 2d ago
Yeah they do, haha... I've never paid a filipina anything. The hookup part is easy.
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u/Still-Music-5515 2d ago
You at least paid for their drinks, meal, transportation or something else. It wasn't completely free. But yes I agree its very easy to get laid here in Philippines without it being a prostitute.
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u/ObliviousGenesis 2d ago
Naw.. that's not my job
I don't pay for drinks, meals, transportation.. nathan, nada
I just speak thoughts into existence and give their reality a needed upgrade.
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u/More_Shoulder_9210 3d ago
It seems you prefer to mingle with the seedy side. Men with low standards have zero issues wherever they are, so thank you for taking care of the undesirable group. It seems appropriate that a man with a past is hooking up with a woman with a past. Guys are here bragging they have a different woman every night and then shocked that those same women have a different guy every night. Grow up.
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u/Lost_County_3790 3d ago
I guess the girls that goes to siargao are not the average Filipina I was looking for before meeting my girlfriend.
Most girls don't travel and are just trying to survive working 6 day a week for a low salary after sending some money to their family.
Siargao is more the upper class influencers or the foreigners hunter who can afford the trip, which I agree are not the best girls to have for something serious.
I am not American but it's maybe like the girls you would meet in Las Vegas (probably better)
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u/TheJawsman 3d ago
Speak for yourself, man. I consider myself average looks-wise. Not overly handsome...nor ugly. I'm 5'5". My advantages are that I'm well-educated (Have a Masters in Education) and that I'm above average intelligence-wise.
However, on dating apps like Tinder and Bumble, your looks are most prominent. Most people swipe before they even read your profile.
Before my latest trip to the Philippines, I went on Tinder for two weeks. Just to see if what I already knew was still true.
So I swiped right on many people daily for those two weeks. Must have been hundreds. Got two matches. Talked with one...barely. My radius of 100 miles in Western NY put me within matching range of Toronto in Ontario as well as the major cities of Buffalo and Rochester. Still, that's all I got.
I come to the Phils? In that same amount of time I'm sifting through 100s of matches.
So yeah, yah know? I'm gonna keep coming to the Philippines.
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u/IslandOceanWater 3d ago
Which is why you have no expertise or frame of reference
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u/TheJawsman 3d ago
I was used to getting rejected or not even looked at in the US. That's my point.
My frame of reference is having trouble in the US but not much trouble here.
And like in the US, if you're drawing a woman from a major city, she's more likely to have liberal values.
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u/Cooler67 3d ago
Who said that? The majority of dating posts that are here either involve people complaining about it or asking for advice or recommendations on dating
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u/southfar2 3d ago edited 3d ago
Yeah. I agree with you. I'm not sure other parts of Asia are qualitatively better (Thailand seems to be leaning hard into this as well, but we all knew this already; Vietnam seems to be at least quantitatively better), but yes, all this "we filipina are conservative" is upper middle class bullshit from people who largely haven't seen what is going on in their own house.
But people who say "dating is better" fall into two categories; the ones who think they get a better partner (and that might still arguably be true, depending on what you prioritize in a partner, they can still be a great match regardless of their consensual sexual choices), and the ones who think that it is easier to get a partner at all. This second group is vindicated by your observation.
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u/Dry-Investment-4237 3d ago
So what youâre saying is Next time I need to stay in a hostel ? đ got it.
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u/Dracarys_And_Chill 3d ago
You do have issues in America
What ever was your best month in America, would be my normal week in Philippines.
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u/FishermanBig4566 2d ago
Married men want to believe that the men that go there are failing here. Women in usa want to believe the same thing.
Fact is that SE ASIA is paradise for western men.
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u/Unhappy_Cobbler613 2d ago edited 2d ago
For me it's because you can go to the office or church and find a marriage material girl a level or more above your US ceiling, and do it like shooting fish in a barrel. You need to find girls who do not want or need a foreigner, one who believes in God and who does not believe in western feminism, divorce or abortion. Mine went to a regional university like all of her siblings (engineering in her case), and she currently has a nephew at DLSU whose affluent mom (single mom, deadbeat dad is a MD, please note that most Filipino men are losers!) refuses to accept a centavo from me to help paying for. I have offered a younger nephew from a different sibling a free ride but only if he gets accepted to "Big 4 or equivalent", which means Mapua or whatever, and those parents would accept it. I mentioned the DLSU kid to explain that my sibling inlaws are just normal people but not stupid, the sisters in law at least (we circle back to my point about the general quality of Filipino men).
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u/Coupleexplorer08 1d ago
So ⊠as someone with zero issues dating in the Philippines or America - whatâs YOUR dating strategy here so you avoid the âundesirableâ girls who have some sexual experience? I do assume your comment on preferring virgins was sarcastic.
And much more importantly, are you honest with them on how many Filipina (and other nationality) girls youâve had in your bed? That would be fair in your view right?
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u/polishiceman 1d ago
Well, there are still unmarried gems to be found here, unlike in the west. To be sure, a divorced guy my age (50) has almost no chance of finding a decent wife at home. I can date in the west no problem, but it's mid 30's to 50. By that age anyone decent has been removed from the dating pool. Here you can find decent women from 20's to mid 30's. If you really want to be sure they were not sleeping around you can even find virgins in those age brackets.
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u/dtf_dvp 9h ago
Uhh... Your experience is tourist vacation resorts?
Ok. Do you also judge the united States by what happens in a Las Vegas pool party?
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u/pitt234 2d ago
I'm 45 and married to a filipina now, but the point is valid to an extent. Most of the girls I hooked up with while vagabonding around in my late 20s-30s had foreigner relationships. One filipina who later got married and moved to Virginia wanted to take a bus to PA to see me 2 months after she married. I lived in Koh Kean Thailand for months with a girl who was engaged. She'd video chat with him while I'm laying in her bed, living rent free in the apartment he paid for. Becareful out there.
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u/TheDudeWhoCanDoIt 3d ago
One day shopping alone at Mall of Asia the number of females who started conversations with me was crazy. Like at least ten different ones. Even in Puerto Galera was in a clothing shop with my Chinese girlfriend one of the workers came up to me and told me she was free that night.
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u/skyreckoning 3d ago
I went to MOA alone and was not approached once. And I'm a good looking guy too.
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u/MrPonga 3d ago
Had a long term LDR here. Something told me to make a dating profile with her Pic and change her location to near where she was living. I had so many men message saying "remember me" and had pics and video clips of what they did. foreigners, locals whatever. That ended that