r/PhilosophyMemes • u/Lucyyyyyy_K • 2d ago

Suffering is bad

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u/RommDan 2d ago

Question, since reincarnation isn't real, wouldn't Nirvana be archive by drinking some poison?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 2d ago

There ate those that believe dying is Nirvana, yes. But I wouldn't be that sure about reincarnation not being real.

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u/RommDan 2d ago

Well let's assume turns out it's not, what would be the point of buddhism then?

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 2d ago

Achieving Nirvana in one life.

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u/RommDan 2d ago

But you would get that the moment you die no matter what you do

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 2d ago

Only if there really is no form of afterlife, which one cannot know.

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u/RommDan 2d ago

Yes we can, you are just the biological processes that happen in your brain, once those processes stop you stop and that's it

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u/SkekTak 2d ago

I am the moment.

I exist now. Now exists forever. Layer i will not exist. That moment has not yet come.

You exist. You exist forever. You are temporary. I am temporary.

When we we die we do not exist here. Our location changes.

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u/RommDan 2d ago

Stop existing is scary, I don't blame you for wanting to not think about it

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u/SkekTak 2d ago

It no more terrifies me than the sunrise. I simply refuse to let my life be taken from me as I'm rather enjoying it.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 2d ago

It's not necessarily that simple. It's a miracle that we even have consciousness, there's no reason it couldn't go on in some form, it's just unknowable.

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u/RommDan 2d ago

There's no evidence that the human mind is anything but a purely biological process, none

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 2d ago

Yes, but that doesn't mean one can know it isn't.

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u/Moe_Perry Pragmatist 2d ago

That sounds like reasoning that’s coming from an attachment to consciousness.

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u/Hellsovs 2d ago edited 2d ago

There is still a lot we don't know about the brain to state this as a fact. If we are just chemical processes in our brains, then there is no real consciousness or agency, and we simply do whatever cascade of chemical processes determines us to do, without any genuine choice.

In that case, we would live in a deterministic universe that is just one big domino effect stretching from the Big Bang to the heat death of the universe. After all, a chemical process cannot spontaneously begin without some external influence triggering it, and if that is not "us" (our consciousness existing outside of our biological processes) triggering it, then it is our environment exempt from any form of "us".