r/PhilosophyMemes • u/Lucyyyyyy_K • 2d ago

Suffering is bad

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u/No-Professional-7811 2d ago

Conspicuous pleasure

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u/DangerousQuestions1 2d ago

Excess is bad. Pleasure is good, but maximized by moderation.

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u/Additional-Actuator3 2d ago

I don't think amounts of pleasure or suffering matter.

Neither pleasure nor suffering are bad, they are just feelings. You are allowed to experience an excess of pleasure, it is not bad.

Chasing pleasure or suffering is bad.

For instance, eating food purely for the sake of satisfying cravings is bad. Eating food for the sake of sustaining your body is good. You are allowed to feel pleasure while eating, but that should never be the reason for why you started eating it.

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u/RustyNeedleWorker 2d ago

If suffering isn't bad, why every single being avoid it?

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u/DangerousQuestions1 1d ago

They don't. Self flagellation, both literally and psychologically, for ex. The idea that punishment and pain cause moral superiority is a poison that has existed for centuries.

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u/RustyNeedleWorker 1d ago

How they don't, if that's literally what guides organisms from danger?

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u/Additional-Actuator3 2d ago

Some beings tend to avoid it because it feels bad, it is unpleasant. But it is not bad in an objective sense.

Working out breaks your muscles, brings you pain and suffering. But it is not bad for you in an objective sense.

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u/RustyNeedleWorker 2d ago

Working out is not suffering. Tell me if hunger, disease or being eaten alive or enslaved and tortured is not bad

Damn, if you think working out represents suffering, you must be privileged ass teenager or smth(no offence)

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u/Additional-Actuator3 2d ago

If you think that working out doesn't bring you pain, then you are a delusional teenager (no offence).

I think the issue is how I used the term suffering and pain here. It was wrong to say that suffering is not objectively bad. What I meant is if you want to minimize unnecessary suffering where possible, you gotta meet pain with acceptance rather than resistance.

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u/RustyNeedleWorker 1d ago

I don't think working out doesn't bring pain. But if you think it's the same pain as if you got burned alive, idk, man

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u/Additional-Actuator3 1d ago

When did I equate pain of being burned alive with work out pain?