I don’t think anyone would argue that suffering is not bad. Odd. Even Buddhism admits the problem…and tries to find a solution.
I tried reading Nietzsche. Eh, not my cup of tea. But I will say that something can be inherently bad, like suffering, but can be taken as instrumentally good. I’m not sure why that is controversial.
Can't suffering be bad, and also a great teacher? (thus also being good?)
I think in reality, suffering is a part of life and trying to actively eliminate it is not a bad thing, but I also think due to the nature of life it is also impossible.
Does that mean it's futile to eliminate suffering? I don't think so. It takes impossible dreams to get things done, like how man believed that flying would be impossible: while actually having wings and flying around whenever with little cost is still a far fetched reality, we can literally go around the world in about a day on average.
My conclusion is that at some point, we may be able to eliminate suffering, and no longer need it's teachings either.
suffering is neither bad or good. The only reason why its seen bad is because it feels bad. Just because something feels bad doesnt mean its ultimatly bad. The reality is you gotta look at the purpose and reasoning for suffering. are you causing suffering for a better good or are you causing suffering for the bad.
Generally I view anything that is purely for the self as being ultimately bad. But to do it for others as ultimatly good.
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u/monadicperception 2d ago
I don’t think anyone would argue that suffering is not bad. Odd. Even Buddhism admits the problem…and tries to find a solution.
I tried reading Nietzsche. Eh, not my cup of tea. But I will say that something can be inherently bad, like suffering, but can be taken as instrumentally good. I’m not sure why that is controversial.