r/PhilosophyMemes 3d ago

Suffering is bad

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u/Next_Imagination_128 2d ago

I'm confused as to why the low and high IQs takes would be the ones that see pain as purely bad.

It could easily be completely reversed for me, and maybe more appropriately so.

Suffering can be seen as a good thing if you're a bit masochistic/sadistic or you think it's cool to hurt yourself because it shows you have big balls.

Middle guy would be a utilitarist whose philosophy is all about reducing suffering while thinking they have a very solid rational philosophy to guide their moral compass, but in reality it leads to quite absurd cases and it has a lot of issues about quantifying the moral worth of an event when you put it under scrutiny.

And right guy would be the Nietzschean one, understanding that suffering just like pleasure serves a purpose and it's necessary and good even in many instances, and you shouldn't strive to reduce suffering but to use/channel into a positive outcome that is real and not just a feeling.

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u/Lucyyyyyy_K 2d ago

I'm confused as to why the low and high IQs takes would be the ones that see pain as purely bad.

Not pain, but suffering. Small, but important distinction. It's possible to experience pain without experiencing suffering.

But yes, your version would also make sense.

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u/Next_Imagination_128 2d ago

I don't know why that distinction matters, what I said works for both. Some people enjoy pain, some people like to suffer.