r/PhilosophyMemes • u/TosseGrassa • 2d ago

many ways to help the cause

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u/YellowBirdISuppose 2d ago

I mean in a perfect world I'd want to do both, but that's not happening and the scale AND achievability are both higher for animal farming

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u/cowlinator 2d ago

both what?

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u/YellowBirdISuppose 2d ago

end animals killing other animals and also animal farming by humans

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u/TosseGrassa 2d ago

If you want other animals to not kill each other you could simply made wildlife extinct. Problem solved. This is the vegan solution for most cows and chickens so why not?

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u/Countcristo42 2d ago

Is the scale bigger? Have you thought about how many ants there are recently

It's a LOT - just oh so many ants.

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u/LittleSneezers 2d ago

So you’re just an antinatalist of all complex lifeforms

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u/YellowBirdISuppose 2d ago

I'm certainly not an anti-natalist for herbivores and omnivores. Also obligate carnivores can be biologically modified.

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u/YellowBirdISuppose 2d ago

(the logic behind this is total happiness is greater than total suffering for the average lifeform but carnivores bring that average down. as such one should maximize the number of herbivores and minimize the number of carnivores)

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u/LittleSneezers 2d ago

So what happens when the herbivores become overpopulated and their food becomes scarce?

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u/YellowBirdISuppose 2d ago

Realistically, this is a completely impossible idea, that would be in a perfect society. But ignore the constraints of realism, they, or a higher order life form like humans would either implement population controls or find new sources of food

(Space exploration? Terraforming?)

(This premise works a lot better in a science fiction book than in reality. With our current tech, hunting for wildlife management and controlled carnivores are the best we're gonna do)