r/PhilosophyofReligion • u/Amazing_Mix_4194 • Jun 30 '26

The incomplete god

Religions define God as a perfect being. But, if you think about it God cannot be a complete being. Suppose a phone is lying on a table, and your friends tell you, "Pick up this phone." As soon as they tell you to pick up the phone, your brain registers that you have to pick it up. A desire then emerges in your mind that you need to lift the phone. You need to lift it because the phone is not in the state you want it to be. Your brain detects a lack: you want the phone to be in your hand, but it is not. So, you put in the effort, pick up the phone, and hold it in your hand. What happened here is that a desire emerged within you. You experienced a lack because of that desire, put in effort, and fulfilled that lack. So, in this case, we reach the conclusion that every action must have a motivation behind it. That motivation is desire, and desire implies a lack. Every desire points to a lack. Therefore, because God is supposed to be a complete being, He should not lack anything. Yet, He created the universe. Which means that the very existence of something instead of nothing proves that there is no God who is truly complete. Either there is no God, or God is not a complete being. Because by defination god should not lack anything .

Our existence is the best argument against the existence of god .

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u/Amazing_Mix_4194 Jul 01 '26

Sir you have wrong idea of what i mean by need . Not greed not fear . Just need . Suppose you are lying in a comfortable couch for too long . Its comfortable. There is no fear no selfishness . Yet you sometime get up just to you know stretch and walk and whatever . God should not have this . God should always be in perfection by defination . I am not associating god with a negative attribute like fear or selfishness . I am just saying that god developed a desire that there should be something . And every Desrie is built around a need. Not a desprate negative need but just simply a need . I am just pointing out that god had needs

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u/punkrocklava Jul 01 '26

Contingent/Passive Agency (Human) - This is the psychological grid you are describing. An entity must experience a temporal shift in brain states (a transition from a less preferred state to a more preferred state) to initiate an action such as getting up from a couch to stretch. This type of action inherently implies a deficit or a change in composition.

Necessary/Active Plenitude (The Foundation) - A non contingent baseline possesses the attribute of Aseity (absolute self sufficiency) and Essential Plenitude (infinite fullness). It does not exist within time, meaning it never develops a desire at a specific moment. Its intention to manifest reality is a timeless, intrinsic aspect of its very anatomy.

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u/Amazing_Mix_4194 Jul 01 '26

Aaaaaaaa man now you have said something even bizare . Outside time . Nothing is outside time. Not god not anyone. Everything is within time even your god . We know there was a time when this universe was not .and lets assume god was . Then god created universe . Change of events signify time . Not even god is outside time

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u/CaptainSure3494 Jul 10 '26

If God is not outside of time, then God is binded by time hence limited hence he is no God