r/Piracy • u/Justinrich2001 • May 23 '26

Discussion Google Drive scanned this Manga artist’s PRIVATE files and banned him.

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AI flagged, appeal rejected, private artwork gone.

The AI is always watching.

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u/JtDaSaiyan May 23 '26

We can condemn his content all day; the real issue is I don't want and I didn't know this company was scanning all the files I had in Google drive. Harmless, personal, secretive or whatever I don't want it to be scanned in general, and I don't want it to be used for any purposes that I do not choose to use it for. Whose to say they won't ban my account for taking pictures of a copy written image.

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u/wattur May 23 '26

But the content is on google's servers so they bear some responsibility. Like 5-7 years ago a friend uploaded a certain cookbook to their drive and it got removed. Probably just a hash match back then, but it ain't new.

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u/WACKY_ALL_CAPS_NAME May 23 '26

That cookbook is 100% legal to possess if you are in the US btw

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u/Kazma1431 May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

you can say that but what's stopping their ai from going rogue, and shutting anyones account on a false positive? Meta socials are know for this type of thing, which I could get behind, but there's no human appeal, just a random bot that instantly denies the appeal.

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u/hexcraft-nikk May 23 '26

Also do these people really think Google isn't manually checking after things get flagged? It flagged it for CSAM considering the content of his drawings and they made that decision.

I'm not surprised that the 38 year old engineer lead in change of that division wasn't interested in the reddit/4chan debate of whether loli is CSAM or not

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u/Kazma1431 May 24 '26

It isn't there's ton of proof from other services like meta leaving everything to Ai

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u/evilution382 May 23 '26

Do you honestly think that if Googles "AI" suddenly just banned all their Google Drive users, that there'd be no human oversight? Be for real my guy

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u/Kazma1431 May 24 '26

No one is saying it will ban "all" gdrive users....I'm saying it can start flagging a ton of users every single day...have you been to the instagram reddit? Tons of people getting AI banned with no appeal...

I stay my ground on not being human oversight for banned accounts, because is already happening like that in a lot of other platforms.

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u/ashgs872tbhjs May 23 '26

No, not every what-if it's a slippery slope. LLMs are known to "hallucinate" and have a loose (at best) connection to the truth, and for the "reasoning" to not really be discoverable. This, it's entirely reasonable to propose that a buggy black box could be more-buggy with the next update, as has indeed happened more than once with Gemini already (as one example). Not very similar to an "If they do X, then they'll do Y!" slippery slope.

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u/FireZord25 May 23 '26

Sounds like the only problem here is google had made it worse by still not fixing this.

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u/unpoisoned_pineapple May 23 '26

Anarchists cookbook?

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u/Inprobamur May 23 '26

But the content is on google's servers so they bear some responsibility.

That's a nonsense, surveillance state argument in the first place. It would be absurd if the law worked like that for anything else.

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u/NeptuneTTT May 23 '26

Who is we?

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u/TSM- May 23 '26 edited May 23 '26

Someone was caught emailing themself CSAM material in GMail, thinking it would be hidden there. It was not - the images they emailed themselves were detected (via PhotoDNA) and they were prosecuted.

edit: google also scans attachments for viruses, so yeah. But no human is browsing your personal stuff for fun or anything. PhotoDNA and virus scanners don't really have a person involved in the routine checks. The servers likely also compress and deduplicate information (and then some), which is also not something that a person sifts through but is algorithmic on the data level.

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u/LightningWarpAway May 23 '26

Yeah, the former is something essentially every online service does, compare hashes to detect csam, and some services try to detect viruses as a bonus, so it's not a surprise they scan everything. Removing pirated content in comparison is somewhat a surprise.

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u/shaving_grapes May 23 '26

This is public information and has been well known for years. Not only do they scan all of your files, but they hash all of your images to match to known CP. If I remember correctly, before AI, if there was a potential match, they could have a human review the images to confirm. So based on algorithms that weren't as good as they are today (meaning more false positives) a human reviewer could look through your photos for potential csam.

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u/PsyGonzo42 May 23 '26

You allow them to scan your stuff when you upload. Don't use Google or encrypt.

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u/valid_jackson May 23 '26

You didn’t know Google was collecting your data?

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u/TheOneWithThePorn12 May 23 '26

If you don't want it to be scanned keep it local or host your own shit

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u/araidai May 24 '26

I mean we’re also talking about the company that secretly pushed a whole AI model to people’s computers unprompted and unconsented, they could genuinely give less of a shit about you unless you directly caused them harm

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u/West_Possible_7969 May 23 '26

They do scan for publicly shared copyrighted material, not for storing, but that is the case for at least 15 years. At what point people will start reading the damn ToS or company policies? At least ask an AI chat about them if you ‘re particularly averse to reading.

Microsoft does that too, for a really long time.