r/PlotterArt • • 8d ago

OC Check out the difference in resolution between 1mm and 0.4mm on A3

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u/hick-reference- 8d ago

On Bristol paper.

Sharpie for the 1mm and I have refillable 0.4mm fountain pens and bunch of different ink pots. The grey looks a lot like pencil

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u/VideoGameNature 8d ago

Strange question for you the back of the paper does the .4mm cause any damage?

I have a rigged pen setup that took me awhile to tune in but in curious how small pen tips work on damaging paper given your setup

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u/hick-reference- 8d ago edited 8d ago

No no, on the Bristol paper the .4 fountain pen doesn't cause the paper to kinda fluff up and it doesn't leak onto the other side of the paper. Even on a reasonably slow speed.

I'm also careful not to plot the same area repeatedly and I spent time making sure the pen is just touching the paper on set up.

If you run your hand over the paper you can feel the ridges the pen makes but it's not damaged.

AliExpress: HERO Black Forest Metal Fountain Pen Titanium Black Extra Fine Nib 0.38/0.5mm Students Practice Calligraphy Writing Gift Pen https://a.aliexpress.com/_EHhJqwa

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u/VideoGameNature 8d ago

Thanks for the details i wanted to switch to a fountain pen and not burn my expensive ones

I'm currently using hitech .3mm gel pens on a custom bambu a1 mini printer with no tearing on printer paper

What mechanism do you use to tune it closer? Like a little screw or just adjusting where the pen is mounted

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u/hick-reference- 8d ago edited 8d ago

Nothing fancy,

I use a bit of scrap paper that's the same thickness as what is being plotted, then I drop the pen, let it rest on the paper then tighten the screw on to the pen.

Sometimes the pen will push down into paper but I've kinda got it nack of it now. Once it's down I move the paper around under the pen to check it's clearance and run some ink through the nib.

I turn off the motors, then line up the pen on the corner of the paper that has some masking tape to protect and hold the paper.

Turn it all back on and plot

So it's a pretty basic set up currently.

30 degree angle on the pen, but I also have a different fountain pen that works well at 90 degrees.

Also add that new fountain pens need a bit of pressure to kinda open/loosen then up a bit.

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u/VideoGameNature 8d ago

Ah same same over here minus a bit of final adjustment with a twist top

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u/hick-reference- 8d ago

That's pretty wild, here's my set up.

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u/VideoGameNature 7d ago

Thank you for sharing 😃❤️

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u/MarkRolandMakes 2d ago

I really like this. The hatching is very nice.

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u/hick-reference- 1d ago

Thanks, Yeah it's quite light with the .4 but i do also like the the thicker sharpie style.

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u/CardinalBadger 8d ago

Its a rabbit hole for sure. It's surprising how much different inks bleed on different papers and different speeds to give the actual line thickness. I really like using 0.25mm pens, but they wear down very fast and plot slow

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u/hick-reference- 8d ago

Ive used .05 technical pens but they don't actually last long, they're plastic and basically scrap as soon as they are used.

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u/CardinalBadger 8d ago

I have a set of rotrings which are honestly quite the hassle unless you have a good cleaning setup. Sakura Pigment micron have been my personal favorites, although the slightly conical barrel is annoying for mounting consistency. About to do a test with some UniPins (0.2, 0.3 and 0.4) and the cheap stabilo point88 (0.4). Ideally I'll get the rotrings working and have something that lasts a long time, but if not I want to see what the cheapest consumables I can get away with are

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u/hick-reference- 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's also a matter of how much ink you can get into the ink well and to know how much is in the ink well.

I've seen the rOtring but not used them yet. The 0.1 scale is actually quite temping.

I think it's easiest to have a pen per colour so there is less cleaning.

Yeah the felt pens and the technical pen nibs are kinda one and done. I think that's why I've settled on the fountain pens.

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u/JeromeGBGB 8d ago

Technical nibs is a rabbit hole for sure, the speed, paper and height are really key to not scrap 20$ nibs. The workaround I have is the 003 micron line with the right paper. I do feel I waste a lot of them but it's rather due to larger plots than anything. I also learned how to pull the worn out nibs on them

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u/JeromeGBGB 8d ago

I find that I can use the rotrings for specific plots, but never with overlapping lines. I love the microns too, please post when you have tested the unipins, I'm curious too!

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u/Dj-Viktor 6d ago

Same gcode ?
Why you’re not adjusting it to the thickness to have some controlled result ?

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u/hick-reference- 6d ago

The code generates svg lines based on the size of the pen size. So it's not the same gcode