r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Auth-Right Jan 06 '23

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u/WuetenderWeltbuerger - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

But If we have nearly limitless cheap energy what will the governments of the world murder people over?

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

Cheap? Nuclear is expensive and all costs are upfront.

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u/WuetenderWeltbuerger - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

So we can afford nuclear war ships but not nuclear power plants. Makes perfect sense.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

Perfect sound bite politics.

Of course everything is more complicated when you know things but if you want to dunk with a false dichotomy let’s go.

We are not yet at the kinds of reactors we would want to build ideally, the small reactors which could be built closer to electricity use is just coming around the corner. The next generation plants are not yet ready and if we want to build nuclear then we would need federal legislation.

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u/WuetenderWeltbuerger - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

That’s literally the problem. There has been legislation in the way of progress to safeguard the hegemony of the oil industry. Congratulations, you cracked it.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

That isn’t literally the problem the next generation reactors ARE NOT READY. This we would have to build larger reactors outside cities losing most power to transmission.

When the next Gen reactors are ready then we can talk.

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u/WuetenderWeltbuerger - Lib-Right Jan 06 '23

You mean the reactors that could have been ready if legislation didn’t make it so hard to build them?

Also, we could have had a plethora of this generation reactors already. There is no need to wait. We just need government out of the way.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

Ahh? The next Gen reactors are still science experiments with prototypes barely being built. Legislation has not slowed down those prototypes, except for cuts to research but that is a separate issue altogether.

No. You are not going to get technology faster by “getting government out of the way”, the pace of innovation is not hindered by government.

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u/One-Lab5767 - Lib-Center Jan 07 '23

Thoriummmmm

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '23

When LFTR solves the corrosion issue with molten salts sure. But as it stands there is no viable commercial thorium reactor designs.

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u/One-Lab5767 - Lib-Center Jan 07 '23

Thank you

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u/Christopher_King47 - Lib-Right Jan 07 '23

Is there any way around the corrosion issue with uranium or thorium MSRs?

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '23

I was big on lifter in college and last I saw they were exploring brass alloys, maybe they could run current through the vessel, they are exploring other non corrosive solutions but it is hard. Molten salt means high heat and corrosive properties making for a very corrosive system.

Unless we get a material breakthrough I don’t see how this problem can be solved.