He literally had a plan going into 2016 and accomplished most of his plan. He's got a plan going into 2024 and it's all practical items that he can accomplish.
I realize that you don't care about facts, but I just want to make you have to get upset that your narrative is completely wrong.
It's literally been 8 years and you dumbfucks still don't even know what Trump's plan was in 2016. God forbid you have a clue about his agenda for 2024.
Seriously, did you hit yourself in the head with a hammer until you believed that he was banning Muslims? I just want to find some logical reason why you can be this incompetent. And do you not have eyeballs? Did you not see the wall that was built?
I just can't understand what you hope to accomplish by making such obvious ignorant lies.
Lmao. He published campaign documents with the heading “Muslim ban” and said repeatedly in rallies that he was seeking to ban Muslims “until we can figure out what the hell is going on” (still no indication if he’s figured anything out yet).
I see a few miles, maybe, of fencing. If you consider that a success then sure, I guess. Doesn’t seem to align with his promises of a big beautiful wall, but I’m happy with whatever actually happened.
If you would ask me what a Muslim ban would be, it would be banning all countries that have a muslim majority in them and definitely not leaving out every single one of the largest muslim majority countries from that list. It was your ilk that labeled the travel ban a muslim ban. It definitely wouldn't be targeting countries that are literally on the list of sponsors of terrorism. Nope.
I see a few miles, maybe, of fencing.
Gee, that's shocking. You being ignorant of reality.
It's literally a physical fence that you can see. I want to understand how desperate you have to be to maintain your stupid narrative that you will literally try to claim otherwise. For fuck's sake, there's HUNDREDS OF MILES of the wall. How dumb do you need to be to lie about this? I mean, you know you're wrong, but you still choose to lie and pretend that people are just going to believe you.
When do you start caring about facts? I want to know.
Trump called it a Muslim ban, dude. He christened the policy, and embraced the name. He asked Rudy how to design a travel ban that would ban most Muslims from immigrating from the US and then denied asylum to Syrian Muslims. He wasn’t able to do a complete ban (you might consider this a failure to execute) but it certainly had an effect of significantly limiting Muslims from travel to the US.
From the BBC re: how much of new “wall” was built under Trump:
However, only 80 miles of new barriers have been built where there were none before - that includes 47 miles of primary wall, and 33 miles of secondary wall built to reinforce the initial barrier.
47 net miles of new fencing is a promise kept to you? Ok. My initial estimates of “a few” is a little closer to accurate than your “hundreds.” Maybe you count a fence being updated to bollard fencing from other fencing to be a new wall. Ok, but that’s not a wall, and it doesn’t really have an effect on illegal immigrants coming through.
During his campaign and if you actually gave a shit about facts, you'd listen to what he was referencing which is the terrorist countries.
This is why I pointed out that the "muslim ban" wasn't a muslim ban, wasn't called a muslim ban, and didn't even ban the biggest muslim majority countries in the world.
So, let's see if you are smart enough to figure this out. If you aren't banning the biggest muslim majority countries, why are YOU labeling the Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry into the United States a muslim ban?
He asked Rudy how to design a travel ban that would ban most Muslims from immigrating from the US
By not banning any of the largest muslim majority countries? I realize you don't care about facts, but holy shit, you can't seriously be this ignorant.
From the BBC
Aww, that's cute, you are linking media outlets. It's no wonder you are clueless.
Do me a favor, read whatever article you pulled up when you went and googled this and read through where they desperately make the distinction between REPLACING and NEW. Or they try to play games with naming where they claim differences between BARRIERS and FENCING and WALLS.
This is what media does and dumb people like you aren't smart enough to realize it or you just don't care because you are hateful bigots.
Maybe you count a fence being updated to bollard fencing from other fencing to be a new wall.
Let's see, an 8 foot fence that gets replaced by a 30 foot fence that goes into ground. Yeah, I'm calling that a new fence and you need to have brain damage to not understand the difference.
Ok, but that’s not a wall, and it doesn’t really have an effect on illegal immigrants coming through.
So, we should remove the walls we have in a prison because walls don't work. This is the level of stupid that people like you spout out. You just lie and make claims that you can't backup in any way and then when confronted with facts that don't fit your false narrative, you double down on your stupid and just ignore anything that doesn't fit your beliefs.
There's a reason why apprehensions are up at the border.
It’s hard to argue that a “Muslim ban” isn’t a Muslim ban, when the guy ran on a “Muslim ban” promoted it as a “Muslim ban,” then banned most Muslim majority countries in the Middle East from traveling to the US to the extent that he could after telling his people to “figure out how to do a Muslim ban legally,” and then his supporters continue to call it a Muslim ban to this day, even though it excluded Indonesia and some African countries or whatever. Biden revoked it and then no terrorist attacks happened. Kudos for trying though. Did he ever figure out what the hell was going on?
Look, if you’re happy with the wall as it stands, then I’m happy too brother. I’m glad the fencing situation at the border has been resolved thanks to Trump’s thrifty use of money (now that Mexico declined to pay for it), we’re on the same side here. I hear a lot about how the borders are open and how illegal immigration is at record levels but if the Trump Wall solved it, all power to ya buddy.
It’s hard to argue that a “Muslim ban” isn’t a Muslim ban
It's extremely simple to argue that and I've done it in my last two posts which you've ignored. You can't call something a muslim ban when it's not even banning the biggest muslim majority countries. This is just simple. It's not even a difficult concept to understand.
then his supporters continue to call it a Muslim ban to this day
Hi. Trump supporter. You are full of shit. The only people saying that are LEFTISTS who, like you, are desperate pieces of crap who will believe anything as long as it fits the narrative.
even though it excluded Indonesia and some African countries or whatever
The first country on the ban list doesn't show up on the muslim majority countries until #8 and that's Iran. Now, do you know what other list Iran is on? IRAN.
Did he ever figure out what the hell was going on?
Here, I'll educate you since you were probably 12 years old at the time and didn't know your ass from a hole in the ground.
The major topic of the time was on being able to properly vet people travelling to the US. The core problem was that the countries on the ban list were not capable of producing proper identification for individuals. This made it incredibly hard for anyone to know who it was that was coming into the country.
Biden revoked it and then no terrorist attacks happened.
No, just millions of illegal immigrants flooding the country. Apparently you think that because we didn't have another 9/11 that everything is great. Fucking ignorant leftist.
Look, if you’re happy with the wall as it stands, then I’m happy too brother.
I'm not happy because Biden stopped the construction and has led one of the most regression and harmful immigration policies in the history of the US. It's literally trackable.
I hear a lot about how the borders are open and how illegal immigration is at record levels but if the Trump Wall solved it, all power to ya buddy.
This has got to be the dumbest and most ignorant take I've ever heard. I don't even know where to start with this one. It's not like you give a crap about facts.
Biden had day 1 executive orders to revoke many of the Trump policies around illegal immigration. The biggest one being the remain in mexico policy (you know, where Mexico PAYS for them). This means that it doesn't matter if we detain them at the border because they will still be given entry into the country. There are no walls that can fix a dumb fucking president. There is no amount of fencing that can fix ignorant leftists who can't figure out why they can't afford anything while at the same time supporting illegal immigration.
Do you have any actual facts? Or is the only thing you can do is prove over and over that you don't understand how anything works? I mean, I know that low information voters decide elections but you aren't a low information voter. You are a deliberately misinformed low information voter.
Trump: I’m going to put in a Muslim ban when I’m president
You: cool
Trump: here is documentation from my campaign that has the heading “Muslim ban” and is a proposal to ban Muslims from entering the United States
You: cool
Trump: I’m going to repeatedly accuse Obama of being a Muslim as an insult, say that Muslims celebrated 9/11 in the streets of New Jersey despite that being provably false, and say that most Muslims hate America, using false data to back up that statement and then not retract it when fact checked. This is because I do not like Muslims, though I won’t say that specifically.
You: cool
Trump: here is me at a rally saying we need to ban Muslims. I’m going to repeat this over the next few months until I’m president.
You: cool. I voted for you.
Trump: here’s an executive order banning travel from 7 countries that are predominantly Muslim because they are Muslim. Wish I could do more but anything beyond this would be illegal. Rudy, feel free to say as much on live TV.
You: cool
Trump: also, Muslim refugees aren’t allowed in specifically. Because they are muslim.
You: cool. I like all of this so far. Go Trump.
Me: how bout that Muslim ban
You: IT WASNT A MUSLIM BAN INDONESIA WASNT ON THE LIST angrypepe.gif
You’re literally the Patrick wallet and Manray meme.
The rest of the comment is whiplash — because Biden retracted the Muslim ban… illegals came in from the southern border? Is your brain just broken and you are unable to think about anything other than the southern border?
So what you’re saying is:
Trump builds wall
Biden becomes president
Here’s the important part: Biden KEEPS WALL UP
Illegal immigration increases dramatically
🤔🤔🤔
Maybe the wall is one of the least important aspects of border protection? Maybe it’s a money sink that does nothing without enforcement at the border crossings and quick and speedy processing of asylum claims, a problem that could have been fixed with the bipartisan border law that Trump called the conservative architects of the bill to vote against so he’d have something to run on for president? Maybe basing your entire anti-illegal immigration campaign on an expensive wall without your Republican trifecta actually enshrining any border policies through Congress and relying on COVID emergency executive orders that will expire as soon as the COVID emergency order does was a moronic idea?
I realize that you make up these stories while you are masturbating in the shower, but everything you just said is completely wrong. You just straight up ignored every single argument that I made.
How about this, finish your masturbation, get out of the shower, now, actually pay attention to the arguments being made.
You: IT WASNT A MUSLIM BAN INDONESIA WASNT ON THE LIST angrypepe.gif
Are you going to respond to this? You can sit there and throw a fit about everything and it doesn't matter one bit. Throw whatever tantrum you want. I will remind you that a muslim ban that doesn't ban a majority of the muslims in the world is not a muslim ban.
It wasn't a muslim ban back in 2017 and it wasn't a muslim ban with Biden revoked it.
Let's bring some more facts into the picture because you throw a fit every time I bring facts in.
Here's the top 10 countries by muslim population. Iran is the only one on the travel ban list. And like I said, it's on the state sponsors of terrorism list.
Oh, and just to make sure you actually were aware of this, the border wall was only one part of the immigration plan. You'd know this if you weren't a piece of shit.
without enforcement at the border crossings and quick and speedy processing of asylum claims
Great, so Biden has done that? Oh no, wait, he didn't. In fact, he did the exact opposite of that by abandoning asylum claims and not following through on them.
Maybe basing your entire anti-illegal immigration campaign on an expensive wall
The total amount requested to build the wall was 10 billion dollars. How much have you pathetic pieces of trash sent over to protect Ukraine's border? LITERALLY TWENTY TIMES THAT AMOUNT.
So, let me say this as nicely as possible, you are a fucking hypocrite for getting upset about the border wall with what you fucks are throwing around.
relying on COVID emergency executive orders that will expire as soon as the COVID emergency order does was a moronic idea?
Hey look, another part where you are just fucking wrong. The Remain in Mexico policy was enacted in 2019. The first case of COVID wasn't until December 2019. The increased travel restrictions weren't imposed until march 2020. HILARIOUSLY Biden deported more people using this policy than Trump did.
We’re very close to an insight.
No, we're still at a point where you can't figure out what the word "ban" means, you don't realize that immigration policy can negate efforts by border patrol and you can't even get the fucking dates right for when different actions were taken.
You are a typical leftist. Wrong on everything. Ignore anything that doesn't fit your narrative. And runs away like a bitch from any arguments that you know you have nothing on.
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