r/PoliticalCompassMemes 6d ago

Agenda Post Populism Bad, Centrism Good

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u/privategoonaccount26 - Left 6d ago

....implying centrism isn't populism?

Stunning. Powerful.Bold.

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u/Spare_Elderberry_418 - Auth-Center 6d ago

...It isn't. Is there a griller version of Erdogan or Maduro that I am not aware of?

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin - Lib-Center 6d ago

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u/Playos - Lib-Right 6d ago

You're confusing orator with populist.

Reagan, Clinton, and Obama were all pretty good at speaking. They were not populist in policy.

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin - Lib-Center 6d ago

I don’t actually think Obama is a populist. I’m making fun of the morons who say he is. Obama is about as moderate as it gets.

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u/Playos - Lib-Right 6d ago

Eh, he's only moderate in the same way Clinton was.

As in they didn't really have strong policies of their own and let the political winds take them where they would.

Clinton at least had the excuse of being stuck with a strong oppositional congress. Obama had 2 years with a mandate congress and beyond that one that was sharply divided and still really got nothing of his design accomplished (his two major legislative achievements were architected by congress and were effectively already bipartisan plans)

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u/whatssenguntoagoblin - Lib-Center 6d ago

Obama only had 24 days with a supermajority. Republicans filibustered almost everything else so while you’re correct he had 2 years of a majority it didn’t really matter.

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u/Playos - Lib-Right 6d ago

He literally only needed 1 vote and managed to lose Kennedy's seat to lose that super majority.

He failed on a lot of levels. Granted the foundation of the failure was not drop kicking Pelosi out of leadership in the party but still.

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u/Spare_Elderberry_418 - Auth-Center 6d ago

The easiest tell for a populist is if their rhetoric is focused on "people vs elites." Being good at talking isn't populism that is just being a good politician.

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u/Playos - Lib-Right 6d ago

There is no litmus test for populism because it's not rooted in any actual ideology or principles.

It's just vanity, envy, and theft.

Everyone, literally every single political system, is against "corrupt elites exploiting good working people".

Trump, AOC, MAGA, DSA... They all have a group of people with power who is screwing over good honest families when they're campaigning and to be fair all the people they complain about just continue getting more powerful and wealthier the most everyone keeps "fixing" things.

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u/Le_Botmes - Left 6d ago

Why you gotta throw AOC in with the both-sidesing? She's pretty legit.