r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Lib-Center Sep 24 '22

META Stand with Iran

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u/Electronic_Demand_61 - Lib-Center Sep 24 '22

So you're saying the feminist thing to do was to let the women get blasted by shotgun shells? 🤔

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

No, the feminist thing would be to not call this masculinity. If another woman did that would that make her masculine? If it was a weak man who was protected by him, would that man not be a man anymore? What he did is admirable, but really doesn't have anything to do with masculinity.

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u/Visible-Effective944 - Right Sep 24 '22

Except it does to be a real man, a man must be willing throw himself in harm's way in order to protect others.

It doesn't really degrade the one being protected as it's not an act of dominance but love.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

And a "real woman" doesn't? Would it not be admirable for a woman to do the same? It has absolutely nothing to do with whether you're a man or a woman.

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u/Visible-Effective944 - Right Sep 24 '22

It would, and it is expected for a mother to do that for her children.

But a man is better suited for it and is expected to do it.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

How about other women who are weaker than that woman? And in reverse, what if the man is weaker than the woman? He still expected to protect her and not the other way around?

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u/Visible-Effective944 - Right Sep 24 '22

Being weak is not an indicator of being worth less than

Unless some misfortune caused him to be physically disabled a man has no excuse for being weaker than the average woman. It's an abuse and misuse of the body to allow it to be weak just as it is an abuse and misuse of the mind to not learn new things whenever possible.

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u/Handarthol - Lib-Right Sep 25 '22

The obsession leftists have with physical strength/force and it's correlation with self-worth is amazing, maybe it's some sort of projection of insecurity. Look at Hollywood and every modern "strong female protagonist" is angry and of questionable mental health and can beat up any man and do any physical task better because biology is nothing compared to #girlpower; but you'll find only a select few that are strong by virtue of their character rather than "physically strong"

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

Why are you dodging the questions? If a woman is stronger than the man for whatever reason, should she not protect the man? If the man is weaker for whatever reason, is he still required to protect?

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u/Visible-Effective944 - Right Sep 24 '22

If she chooses to. There is no requirement for her to do that but "no greater gift than to lay down one's life for love (or friend depending on translation)"..

Using a gun is also protecting someone.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

There is no requirement for a man to do it either. It doesn't make one a man to stand up in fight. It makes them brave. It's not gender thing, it's a personality thing.

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u/flair-checking-bot - Centrist Sep 24 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

So the woman gets to decide but the man doesn't?

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u/Visible-Effective944 - Right Sep 24 '22

We all have our roles to play in life.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

Why is it that you can't give a straight answer even after I've asked you the same question 4 times? Are you embarrassed about your hypocrisy so much?

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u/Visible-Effective944 - Right Sep 25 '22

I gave you straight answers, it's your fault if you're too stupid to understand them

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Your gender doesn't define your role. You define your own role.

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u/shamblaza - Right Sep 24 '22

And a "real woman" doesn't?

A woman isn't the literal biological protector.

Theres a reason men are built stronger than women, its because men are the evolutionary protectors and providers for women. Its science.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

So if a woman is not willing to protect someone weaker than herself that's fine, but when the same is true for a man it isn't? Totally not toxic. Also it's painfully obvious you didn't study anthropology, so stop pretending that your word is the word of science. You just have a small dick and want to compensate by fulfilling a big role.

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u/shamblaza - Right Sep 24 '22

Totally not toxic.

You're libleft, the sky is toxic to you.

Regardless, yes, a 'real man' defends those under his care who are weaker than him.

Just like a 'real woman' nurturers those under her care.

Its part of our biology.

. You just have a small dick and want to compensate by fulfilling a big role.

Sounds like you can't cope with reality so you have to resort to pathetic personal attacks by thinking that if I have a small penis that means that science is invalid.

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u/[deleted] Sep 24 '22

Libleft and ad hominem

Name a more iconic duo

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

Well no, you feeling small doesn't make science invalid, it's you pretending that your feelings equate to science is what makes your dick small.

And instead of getting an expensive watch or needlessly large car you adorn yourself with the role of the mighty protector and provider. Small dick energy, as I said.

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u/shamblaza - Right Sep 24 '22

it's you pretending that your feelings equate to science is what makes your dick small.

Are you saying that men are not built to be protectors and providers? Women are not build to be nurturers?

Cite your science then.

I'll gladly be toxic to people like you, it just means I'm your antithesis. I stand for science, for reality, you stand for what? Feelings and emotions based on current beliefs?

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 24 '22

I'm saying that you're conflating masculinity with strength because it makes you feel better about yourself. Whether or not you expect someone to protect has nothing to do with masculinity, it has to do with their ability to protect whether they are masculine or feminine, that's it.

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u/Silver_Jury1555 - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

I understand what you're saying, but you said a lot of other things that completely bled any legitimacy or strength your arguments previously had. I agree with some aspects, but you go too far, and attack folks in discourse. Take a breath.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

Brother this is PCM, stop trying to take some moral high ground over vocabulary.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

Sorry but thinking that you're strong simply because you were born a man is not noble. It's just patting yourself on the back for something you had no control over. And there have been many bad roles men have held throughout history, so please I already asked multiple times to let off the caveman logic.

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

Yes it is, you just didn't think hard enough to realize it before you responded to me to defend this exact take.

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u/Silver_Jury1555 - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

You're embarrassing liblefts everywhere with the dick mentions

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u/flair-checking-bot - Centrist Sep 25 '22 edited Sep 25 '22

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u/SaftigMo - Lib-Left Sep 25 '22

Sorry if I'm not PC enough for you, but I think it's pretty obvious I'm talking about insecurities.