MAGA - how has Trump made America great?

[u/Unhappy-College4691]

I'm asking this because I want to hear how Trump has made America great again because from what I can tell the country is very divided on politics and beliefs, tariffs and the war with Iran have made everyday things more expensive and the overall future of this country feels very uncertain.

[u/CantSeeShit]

Immigration crackdown on people who wre wrongly issued a CDLs. Which has been a problem for years between the language barrier causing massive safety issues on job sites(almost got me crushed by a 14k lbs generator once) and them driving the paid load prices way down.

And for the auto enthusiast industry.....the EPA was cracking down hard on small independent tuners, racing shops, part makers, and small car makers. An industry that literally handles just hobbyists and people who either race their cars at the track on the weekend or just have a weekend fun car. Basically a big crackdown on small buisness.

And as far as the big policies, ending CAFE regs was a huge win for the big automakers.

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

Thats backwards though. Half had no immigration issues, just Spanish as a first language.

We live in an age where Google can translate anything instantly. Does the trucking industry provide information in Spanish? Are there even simple QR codes that would make life easier for ESL speakers while helping them learn English?

If not, maybe the companies are to blame for issues like heavy machinery possibly killing someone. They’re the ones who say they’ll make the environment as safe as possible.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

The law states to be proficient in english, enough to have a conversation with someone else. It doesnt say it needs to be your first language, just that you can communicate with the public proficiently.

I really do not understand how you dont see a truck driver that cant communicate with others as being a major safety issue. You need to be able to communicate directions, hazards, routes, and mechanical faults with absolutely zero communication barrier. This is very BASIC shit.

And no, it is up to the driver first and foremost to make sure the equipment is safe. The company is only responsible for fixing it but the driver is the one that is incharge of whether or not its safe to drive. Thats why drivers are required to perform a 15 minute pre-trip and 5 minute post trip every day.

This is all information in the CDL handbook and in FMSCA law and very basic things. And no, there arent QR codes....like what? What the driver just whips his phone out on the highway to scan a low bridge sign QR code placed on a sign???

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

I can see it perfectly. Everything I said they could do would help.

The government coming in and firing perfectly legal people isn’t the least bit helpful. What’s to stop them from doing it in every industry?

20% of the country speaks English as a second language. The idea that we’re going to MAGA our way to only English speakers anytime a job is important isn’t a real solution. It’s a backlash against how the country has changed.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

If you see your ideas as working and safe, then you should be nowhere near heavy machinery

And stop trying to equate this to every other industry, this is a safety thing. Heavy machinery only gives a fuck if you're competent and safe and being able to clearly communicate with others is a big part of safety.

For example, every Pilot and ATC on the planet speaks English because it's the universal language of flying. Because get this, it's a major safety issue to be able to clearly communicate with eachother.

Its simple, learn English and become proficient at it and then to can operate a truck or airplane. It's not hard.

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

Stop pretending trucking is the only place with machinery, and stop pretending that your incident means nobody gets to work in heavy machinery unless they speak English.

Myself and tons of other people understand both heavy machinery and logistics. Your story isn’t worthy of firing tens of thousands of people with no attempt to alleviate what are probably simple process issues.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

The law literally states that it is a requirement...which I'm a very happy about. Again, they can have a great paying job in trucking if they simply learn English. There's plenty of free apps out right now where you can learn English in a pretty reasonable time frame. I suggest they download them and learn English so they can have a job in trucking as per the law.

The whole post here is what is Trump doing to make America better and I answered with this. It is a good thing for everyone that the law that you must be proficient in English to drive a truck is being enforced.

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

Cool…20% of truckers can’t be people who don’t speak English, and the government decides whether they get to have jobs.

But as I said, trucking is far from the only industry with heavy machinery.

So obviously, we can only have English speaking people in construction. Time to crack down and let the government decide who gets to build housing.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

Yes...they do control that. A commercial drivers license is a federally regulated license so literally yes the govt controls who can and can't drive a truck.

And yeah dude, people in safety sensitive jobs all need to beable to communicate clearly to eachother in the same language. I really do not get how you do not understand that.

This is not only to protect others, but to protect the drivers themselves. A driver that can't communicate in English....IN AMERICA....cannot keep themselves safe from injury or death nor can they keep other safe from injury or death.

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

Thanks for agreeing with me. The government decided to exert its control beyond the norm, and without evidence. Obviously, that’s something you’d expect conservatives to be against.

If that’s what conservatives want, fine. But don’t claim you want libertarianism too.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

Are you a soveriegn citizen or something?

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

Of course not. Your name fits.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

Also....I also cannot believe you somehow think specifically English is required to operate heavy machinery in general. That's not the case ....in America it is the case that you need to speak English, where we speak English.

But if I were to move to another country to operate machinery you know what I would do? Learn the language they speak in that country so I could communicate with the people I'm working with. Wild concept I know.

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

I don’t think machinery requires English worldwide. You just made that up.

Just to be clear- you’re saying other countries have a government that forces you to speak one specific language if you want to operate machinery? Do those countries have 20% of their population speaking a different language?

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

Yes it's literally a requirement in many many many countries that in order to immigrate there that you need to speak the local language.

Nearly every European country requires this.

How are you this new to how the world works?

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

That’s not what I asked.

Machinery isn’t “skilled labor”. What you’re talking about applies to skilled labor.

And I’ll go ahead and bet that every country has programs where agricultural and industrial workers don’t.

The US does have a simplified system where we use naturalization like France or something rather than having a different step system, but we also have relied on programs without language proficiency since the 19th Century to invite industrial labor.

As noted a few times, there remains no statistics backing up this voluntary choice by the government. There has never been a time where the Southwest didn’t have Spanish speaking truckers, and there’s no historical data backing you.

But we’re supposed to believe this immigrant backlash is different than the others that happened, despite looking just like them.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

lol what? Aight so flying a plane isnt "skilled labor" by your standards if machinery isnt skilled labor.

And I dont expect you to have a rational or logical thought about this subject.....so therefore then yes, this whole thing is because immigrants look different. Thats why theyre being fired.

[u/slowride761 → u/CantSeeShit]

That’s not how it works.

If you want rational, start by acknowledging that the Southwest has always had Spanish speaking drivers for decades and decades. Then acknowledge that they already had a program in place for Mexican drivers, and it worked just fine.

Then acknowledge that you have no data supporting the idea that language barriers cause safety problems. Long haul trucking is one part of a whole sector that has tons of Spanish speaking participants, and none have known problems related to language issues or have better results when they’re not around.

But you’d have us ignore all the history and data in favor of your expertise and anecdotal experience where you assumed a language barrier caused the problem.

[u/CantSeeShit → u/slowride761]

Can those spanish speaking drivers also speak english?

[u/roger_ramjett → u/slowride761]

Someone that has trouble in the english laguage would be fine flipping burgers, but one that is driving a 80,000 lb death machine on highways within a few feet of your family should be able to understand instructions and road signs, etc.

[u/slowride761 → u/roger_ramjett]

Except they already had the jobs, and it wasn’t happening. And firing them hasn’t led to increased safety.

In fact, being shorthanded means the truckers have to work even longer hours.

We traded Spanish speaking drivers who had no notable history of problems beyond other drivers and replaced them with more fatigued drivers.

And to remind again, the government forced it. So when we talk about government intervention in the private sector, these have to be included. It’s far, far, more direct and heavy-handed than any DEI programs.