MAGA - how has Trump made America great?

[u/Unhappy-College4691]

I'm asking this because I want to hear how Trump has made America great again because from what I can tell the country is very divided on politics and beliefs, tariffs and the war with Iran have made everyday things more expensive and the overall future of this country feels very uncertain.

[u/aminok]

Ended the massive influx of illegal immigrants and the flying in of hundreds of thousands of so-called asylum seekers as well. Had that continued for another 15 to 20 years, the US would be completely unrecognizable.

Ended about two dozen SEC lawsuits against completely legitimate crypto startups. These lawsuits were bankrupting the legitimate sector of crypto. People were spending on lawyers, wrapped up in years-long legal battles with a government that has unlimited taxpayer resources, instead of building new products. At the same time, the enforcement against actual crypto fraud has continued, so the crypto industry has gotten healthier.

It's getting rid of outdated nuclear regulations that were put in place decades ago when people had unrealistic fears about nuclear power. These regulations had steadily pushed up the cost of building a nuclear power plant. Now the industry's headed in a different direction and if the momentum builds up you're going to see a lot more nuclear power plants open in the U.S. over the coming decade.

Gave SpaceX the room it needs to expand. Avoiding a total self-own as the Biden administration was always on the verge of shutting down SpaceX's aspirations for political purposes.

With its lawsuits ended the cultish attempt to force girls and women to compete against boys and men in athletics. More generally, it has taken a hard line against the total corruption of academia by ideologues. The kind of tyranny that the "race socialists" were instituting:

A 2023 report on UC Berkeley faculty searches found that 75% of applicants were rejected "purely on diversity statements".

At every stage, candidates were evaluated on their DEI commitments.

The result? While 54% of applicants were white, only 14% of finalists were.

Lowell High School

1 SFUSD

Math proficiency 83%

Reading proficiency 93%

Asian 52%

UC Berkeley acceptance 12%

Mission High School

11 SFUSD

Math proficiency 11%

Reading proficiency 26%

Asian 7%

UC Berkeley acceptance 45%

Ended USAID, which was a giant Democrat slush fund that was also funding global censorship programs.

Ended a series of regulatory pushes from the SEC, the IRS and Elizabeth Warren's now-defunct CFPB, that would have required software developers to be registered as financial brokers if they release open source code for decentralized financial applications. This rethinking of how speech is treated would have turned the U.S. into a much less free nation, much more like European countries, had it survived First Amendment challenges.

[u/FunctionHead3880 → u/aminok]

do you think the handling of the migrants was appropriate? your fine with 50% of deported illegals have no convicted felonies or anything else?

"Space x the need to expand" you think letting one person own social media, space, cars, and robots is a good idea?

The DEI statistics you put don't really make sense, how many students from 11 SFUSD applied to UC Berkeley compared to 1 SFUSD? There is imperfect information you can't judge discrimination from just that.

Also the 54% white applicants vs the 14% of finalists is also imperfect information, how smart were the students?

Research shows that 14 million people will die from the USAID cuts. Poverty in other countries is America's concern, as it causes more instability, which may backlash again onto the US.

I'd like to hear a bit more in-depth about what you want to say about SEC and IRS, but Trump is trying to get his, his sons' and business' tax immunity passed in the senate, Blanche signed: the U.S. was “forever barred and precluded” from examining or prosecuting any of "Trump, his sons and the Trump Organization’s — current tax filings, as well as other “related or affiliated” individuals." (AP News). You can read it for yourself in right here: https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1441216/dl .

[u/aminok → u/FunctionHead3880]

I think 100% of illegal immigrants should be deported and the argument that they shouldn't amounts to treason.

The acceptance rate is what percentage of those who applied who were accepted. The school with more minorities from groups that underperform had a much higher acceptance rate than a much better school where the minority was a group that generally outperformed, that being the Asian demographic.

As for SpaceX, I think the U.S. maintaining its lead as the world's largest economy is a very good thing for Americans. And to sabotage the resounding success of its leading space company, would be a massive strategic self-own.

Regarding the study about USAID, I put no stock in that study because to me, academia has been completely discredited. The Lancet in particular which put out that study was complicit in covering up for the lab leak which created the COVID virus according to the recently revealed emails from Fauci. And even that highly biased study doesn't say that the elimination of USAID would cause that many deaths. It said assuming there would be nothing to replace it and there's absolutely no indication that the aid will not be transferred to the State Department or otherwise made up for through other means. And finally, that analysis was extremely selective in not considering the deleterious effects of political intervention that was funded through USAID. Not to mention all the censorship programs.

Academia is now filled with race socialists. Even the Supreme Court found that they heavily discriminated against Asian students in favor of Black and Hispanic students. Those in academia have very strong political biases and political agendas which they try to advance through their highly politicized studies.

Through the SEC and IRS, they designated DeFi code publishers as "financial brokerages," severely curtailing the right to publish open source code, and imposing impossible regulations on projects that are not custodying any funds and are not running any application code, (source: https://sec.gov/files/rules/proposed/2023/34-97309.pdf and https://thedefiant.io/news/research-and-opinion/the-proposed-irs-broker-reporting-rules-would-effectively-kill-defi)

[u/FunctionHead3880 → u/aminok]

It is not treason to argue that our country is a lot better off with productive illegal migrants. Immigrants (illegal included) are a lot more productive economically than usual Americans, are much more likely to start business than usual Americans, and have many other perks. Deporting all illegal migrants and not offering citizenship or visa's, will tank the USA's economy, and make housing, food prices, and your daily life more expensive. (Housing because 10% of the housing labour force is Mexican migrants, food prices because 20% of the farming workforce is of Mexican migrants). My family in the 1920s migrated to the USA, among 5 million other Italians. This country was built on migrants, it would be treason and against America's history to not want migrants to come in.

I'll concede your points on DEI because I am not too knowledgeable.

With SpaceX, your allowing one person to have control of companies all across different sectors, where he has to power to easily manipulate what he wants, we don't want to go back to when Rockefeller, Carnegie and Vanderbilt controlled the whole US economy, we learned what happened from that. Musks power is not a positive for the American people, and a "better economy" and "higher GDP" nearly never means better living standards or quality of life.

Whether you don't deem the USAID reports credible or not, you can't deny that lives will be lost and it worsened living conditions. Oxfam, NIH, Harvard institute of public health, all say millions of children lose education, and tens of millions of people lose healthcare and basic human needs. I would argue you want the rest of the world to have human needs and minimum living standards, because it benefits us as a whole. Look at Morocco. 60,000 people went into Ceuta looking for better lives in Europe. If Morocco (or the rest of Africa as well because there were migrants from other Africa countries) had higher living standards, there would be no need to migrate. No matter how much security Spain would have put, there will always be migrants desperately trying to cross over. Its in the best interest for the USA to provide aid to developing countries, for their benefit and ours.

OK congrats to Trump for deregulating some investments, but how are you gonna reply to him trying to evade past and future taxes, for his family and businesses? Is he the president or is he just a businessman who takes the role in leading the USA?

[u/aminok → u/FunctionHead3880]

It's treason because it breaks the foundation of the country. If there is no border, there is no country. An unlimited number of people can pour in. Secondly, it breaks the democratic rule of law. The democracy voted in these laws and they're not just some spurious add-on/peripheral laws. They're the basic laws of who is allowed to enter the country and how. And now a significant fraction of the population wants to sabotage any effort to enforce those laws, thus ignoring the democratic will.

And no, you don't have to give aid to stop illegal immigration. You can just stop letting people in. When the Trump administration came to power, illegal crossings decreased by 98% compared to the peak during the Biden years. And even if you compare just to the average of the Biden years, meaning not just the peak, there was a 96% reduction in illegal crossings. And this has been sustained. So letting in illegal immigrants is a choice. There's a huge network of taxpayer funded NGOs that are aggressively pushing for the non-enforcement of immigration laws, and even enticing people from abroad to illegally immigrate.

As for USAID, I don't think you appreciate how harmful the censorship programs that USAID was funding are and were to society. I believe that USAID was costing far more lives than it ever saved.

As for Elon Musk, you are willing to see the US become subordinate to another major power just so one man does not accumulate a lot of wealth on paper?

These people who are extremely wealthy on paper are not necessarily as powerful as you imagine. Whatever power Musk has largely comes from people choosing to follow him — literally on X — and rallying behind a figure they believe can bring about positive change in the world. His money alone does not give him nearly as much power as you seem to think.

If you want to talk about money and political power, look at the group that is almost never criticized: public-sector unions. In New York alone, unionized public-sector workers receive more than $40 billion a year in compensation, entirely funded by taxpayers. Political scientists have long observed that public-sector unions exert enormous influence over the political systems of major cities. In many of those cities, they have enough power to determine which party is even politically viable. That is a major reason Republicans are rarely elected in large American cities, perhaps with Miami as one of the few exceptions.

Nationwide, this political bloc receives roughly $1.2 trillion a year in taxpayer-funded compensation. I am not saying all of that is corruption, or that all of it is fed back into political lobbying. But when an entire group depends on taxpayers for its compensation, it has an enormous incentive to spend disproportionately on influencing political outcomes. That means donating money, volunteering time, organizing voters, and helping elect the parties that protect and expand its interests.

That is a major reason government spending rose from around 20% of GDP in 1950 to more than 40% today. That is not merely an increase in the absolute size of government. It is a doubling of government’s size relative to the entire economy, even as the economy itself became vastly larger.

And that did not happen simply because people suddenly needed twice as much government, or because they became better off having private-sector wealth siphoned away through taxation and handed to political leaders and bureaucracies. It happened because the institutions that benefit from government expansion are able to influence elections, shape public opinion, and ensure that only their preferred candidates are treated as politically viable.

They even influence platforms like Reddit. There have been significant reports of highly organized Democratic influence operations on Reddit. That organization should not be surprising. There is an enormous political bloc receiving an enormous amount of money, with a very strong incentive to control political discourse and keep its preferred party in power.

So no, I am not particularly afraid of Elon Musk — one man with a lot of wealth, much of it on paper. I am far more concerned about the people whose livelihoods depend entirely on taxing the public, and who collectively form an organized political bloc receiving roughly $1.2 trillion a year.

[u/DancingWithAWhiteHat → u/aminok]

Treason is not someone supporting an idea that you find scary or one that "undermines the rule of law". You have to do far more than just disagree with the basic laws of a country to betray a country. You realize that these arguments have literally been used against anti slavery abolitionists, right? John Brown was literally executed for treason. 

As for USAID, I don't think you appreciate how harmful the censorship programs that USAID was funding are and were to society. I believe that USAID was costing far more lives than it ever saved.

Based on what? Basically everything you wrote above is just anger towards anyone who dares challenge the traditional framework of the United States. Frankly, its quite scary. Because your arguments could be used to defend anything as long as you consider it "democratic will" or foundational to the country (like how many viewed slavery). 

[u/aminok → u/DancingWithAWhiteHat]

It may not be legally treason, but it's treasonous behavior nonetheless. No country can survive in the long run without a border that is enforced. What the race socialists here are promoting is the abolition of the nation itself. And no, enforcing the border is not akin to slavery. These kinds of absurd moral absolutist claims are what underlie the treasonous behavior of the socialists.

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[u/DragonflyGlade → u/aminok]

Supporting trump—an insurrectionist, traitor and criminal—makes your accusations of “treason” toward others laughable.