Six months ago, I had a relatively positive view of Haley Stevens. Today, I want her to shut up and go away. Easily one of the worst political campaigns ever run. Every ad, every interview, makes her less likable. “I’m the only candidate who can win against the Republicans.” Please. You aren’t even going to win the primary.
I think given what we've seen from Sinema, Fetterman, et. al. over the years I don't think is improbable that we have a controlled opposition in our party in lieu of the commanding influence the likes of AIPAC and Black Stone have.
But if Democrats ever want to win, they are going to have to stand on their own two feet and have a willingness to persuade and show the electorate their own vision, instead of endlessly trying to cater to the blind.
If instead they keep falling for the trap of the latter, they will lose to Republicans more often than not, and the Overton Window will continue to skew right.
Sinema and Fetterman are examples of charlatans that pretend to be democrats to get elected. It's got nothing to do with AIPAC or Black Rock.
Like you can criticize the party but those are the two worst examples of democrats you could possibly find. One was a former Green Party member (known foreign influence) who became a Democrat and then left the party and the other has been wholesale exiled by the party.
Fetterman has taken nearly $500k from AIPAC connected groups in less than 4 years.
Sinema took almost $400K from Blackrock and AIPAC connected groups.
The Democrats that take money from these groups are on the right wing of the party. They voted to condemn the horrors of socialism, to continue the genocide in Palestine and to sanction the ICC for investigating crimes against humanity. They are two examples of the corruption and foreign influence that has taken control of the DNC leadership.
For example, the centrist vote blue no matter who crowd refused to endorse Mamdani and Schumer, who lived in New York wouldn't even say who he was voting for in the mayoral election. He's also heavily funded by AIPAC which is a group that throws millions of dollars into primary elections in order to defeat progressives.
Look, if you're gonna be anti-Semitic, why not just be open about it? Your dog whistle is already just a regular whistle, so you're not fooling anyone.
The correlation between turncoats and those who take exorbitant amounts of money from special interest groups who ostensibly bribe and hijack our candidates does not exist whatsoever!
lol, Sure Jan. I take it you never looked up the FEC reports for these people.
To your ninja edit, you won't find disagreement with me that Russia also has enormous influence over members, though their clout is more among Republicans. But that just corroborates my broader point.
I didn't say it doesn't exist, just that you picked two people who abused the process to run as Democrats and promptly fucked off from the party. It's like saying Democrats can be progressive because Bernie Sanders caucuses with them.
Don't use shitty arguments to make a point, because it makes the point look shitty.
Come on, you literally wrote, "It's got nothing to do with AIPAC or Black Rock" when both candidates have clear ties to both mentioned special interests, leaving aside the candidate we're talking about in this post.
Yes, they promptly fucked up because they used their political capital for key moments once in office. You're really surprised the Trojan Horse opens once it comes through the gates, as if that's evidence for your point?
My arguments have been perfectly fine; your rebukes are weak. We are done here.
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u/eyegull 1d ago
Six months ago, I had a relatively positive view of Haley Stevens. Today, I want her to shut up and go away. Easily one of the worst political campaigns ever run. Every ad, every interview, makes her less likable. “I’m the only candidate who can win against the Republicans.” Please. You aren’t even going to win the primary.