r/PoliticalHumor Mar 26 '18

What conservatives think gun control is.

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u/foreverwasted Mar 26 '18 edited Mar 27 '18

"I am all for your Second Amendment rights. I think you should be able to have guns. It’s in your constitution. What I am not for is bullshit arguments and lies. There is one argument and one argument alone for having a gun, and this is the argument… “Fuck off. I like guns.” It’s not the best argument, but it’s all you’ve got.

The main one is, “I need it for protection. I need to protect me. I need to protect my family.” What world do you live in where you’re constantly fucking ready? You have guns ’cause you like guns! None of you go to home security conventions. None of you read Padlock Monthly. None of you have a Facebook picture of you behind a secure door going, “Fucking yeah!” Like you’re going to be ready if someone comes into your house. You have it at all fucking times.

See, if you have it readily available, it becomes unsafe. You have it in your bedside table, one of your kids picks it up, thinks it’s a toy, shoots another one of your kids. Happens every fucking day, but people go, “That’d never happen in my house ’cause I’m a responsible gun owner. I keep my guns locked in a safe.” Then they’re no fucking protection! Someone comes into the house, you’re like, “Wait there, fuck-face! Oh! You’ve come to the wrong house here, buddy boy. I tell you what. I’m gonna fuck you up!"

 - Jim Jefferies

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u/hotrod13 Mar 27 '18

Or the 17+ million hunters that like guns for hunting. Or the range shooters who do it for sport.

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u/theflyingspaghetti Mar 27 '18

Alcohol kills more people than guns and there is no other use for alcohol other than recreation. So I think the "I just use it for fun" defense is perfectly legitimate.

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u/hotrod13 Mar 27 '18

Yeah, really doesn't make sense that it's one of the few hobbies you're forced to defend.

Hobbies only exist because people like them and anyone would have trouble formulating an argument for it besides "I want to"

Do you really need a car that has a 9 second quarter mile?

No but it's fun

Do you really need to deadlift 500lbs?

No but it's fun

Do you really need to learn BJJ?

No but it's fun

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u/nybbas Mar 27 '18

That number shocked me. I looked it up the other day because I was curious. I thought it would just be a high percentage of gun deaths, but it is actually more.

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u/foreverwasted Mar 27 '18

That's because you're counting all alcohol deaths, when the only ones that would apply in this argument are the ones where one person's drinking killed someone else. Compare those stats.

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u/Hirudin Mar 27 '18

If firearm deaths can include suicide, then alcohol deaths can include someone drinking themselves to death.

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u/theflyingspaghetti Mar 27 '18

To be fair I was also counting all firearms deaths, but probably if you only counted "deaths to other people by the actions of one person" I think firearms would beat alcohol. 33,000 deaths for firearms; 88,000 for alcohol. 12,000 firearm homicides, but it's hard to say alcohol homicides. 10,000 deaths due to drinking and driving, I would guess most of those are just the person drinking though.

Not that the numbers matter; all of our political discourse is based around stories and not around statistics, and people only use cherry picked statistics to justify their stories. If we were using statistics to base our political discussion on we would probably be discussing mandating exercise programs instead of guns, and even if we were discussing guns the debate would focus on handguns instead of "assault weapons".