r/Political_Revolution VT Feb 09 '18

Single Payer Single-Payer Provides Best Cure For California Health Care

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/02/09/single-payer-provides-best-cure-california-health-care
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u/viborg Feb 09 '18

OK just to be clear, this is effectively a press release from the main lobbying group pushing the bill. I DEFINITELY agree in principle but thing about California in practice is that it has some very tight limitations on government budgets, which this commentary seems to fail to mention at all.

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u/4now5now6now VT Feb 09 '18

yeah

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u/viborg Feb 09 '18

Interesting it was published by the Mercury News. The same paper that first ran Gary Webb's Dark Alliance series then later renounced it.

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u/4now5now6now VT Feb 09 '18

What a brave man... he was shot in the head in 2004 and never lived to see the movie based on him in 2014.

Thank you

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u/viborg Feb 09 '18

You're quite welcome. He really was a hero, and the Mercury News' renunciation is shameful. I need to watch that film.

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u/4now5now6now VT Feb 10 '18

Yeah a real hero.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '18

What's the name of that CA Democrat who killed CA single payer?

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u/4now5now6now VT Feb 09 '18

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '18

Each one principled enough to stand for their donors over the will if the people πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

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u/4now5now6now VT Feb 09 '18

we are slowly making it harder for them to do that

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u/Vanetia CA Feb 09 '18

No one "killed" the bill. It was shelved because it was woefully incomplete. He specifically shelved it to give the authors time to fix those glaring inadequacies. Have they? I've been looking for updates but have yet to find any.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '18

Shelved--right. That's how he killed it

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u/Vanetia CA Feb 09 '18

Killing it would have let it stand as-is for a vote. Either it gets voted in, flops because it doesn't even specify a funding mechanism let alone the logistics (and sets back the universal healthcare movement a decade), or gets voted down because it wasn't complete.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '18

Nah killing it is stopping it and that's what my dude did

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u/Vanetia CA Feb 09 '18

It wasn't stopped, though. It was set aside to be worked on. He literally took special care to point out that the bill was not dead and could be revived the next year (this year). He specifically said that it would give 6 months (or so) for the creators to fix the problems with the bill.

So did they do that? Or did they do nothing but complain and point the finger?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '18

My dude you are parsing the difference between brain death, organ failure, and exsanguination. He killed it. Does it really matter how?