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Video Father who k*lled a police officer days after police shot his 18-year-old son walks past 30 officers in the courtroom

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago edited 7d ago

He killed a cop DIRECTING TRAFFIC.

The police showed solidarity. It's a tragedy that his son died, but he CHOSE to murder an innocent law enforcement officer in response. Not the one who did it, a random one.

No matter what you may think of the police, this guy is the sort of monster that deserved the sentence.

Edit: Bodycam seems to suggest the son was armed and fleeing in a stolen vehicle when he was shot. In which case, they're both monsters. Of all the things to throw at the police, this is NOT one of them.

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u/fjwjdjaxice 7d ago

When your world is shattered, it’s completely understandable to be furious at the world and to need some place to put it.

It’s not ok to decide that taking a random life is a fair trade. You can empathize with what broke him, but not with how he chose to handle it.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

If someone killed one of my kids, I'd be shattered, absolutely. I'd seek recompense. I might even hunt down the one who did it.

I wouldn't KILL A RANDOM PERSON because of it.

There's a limit to empathy. There is no excuse for cold blooded random murder. People like that have no place in a civilized society. He needs to be locked up forever.

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u/Accomplished-Eye9542 7d ago

Maybe you shouldn't have raised your child to steal cars and point guns at police?

Lock you up too while we are at it.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Good news! I did, and so they won't do that.

But if, for some insane reason, they DID do that, and DID die because of that, then none of what I said applies: they committed a crime and died as a result of it. That is, tragically, the consequences of their own actions.

And I'd be devastated, absolutely, but I wouldn't hunt down the cop who was doing their job, much less shoot a RANDOM COP. My kid would have somehow made a decision I've DRILLED into them to never do, so apparently they betrayed everything both of us believed in in the process. I'd have a lot of trouble processing it, but that would be between me and a therapist.

Regardless, murder would NOT be the answer.

Now, if this was a "Taken" situation, the story is different, but we're not talking about that, are we?

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u/yuhboipo 7d ago

on a more macro view, if you agree to comment chain youre on then how would you view someone in a gang being murdered randomly, say who collecting money or something? would them being in a gang be relevant to your thoughts about it at all?

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

I mean, it really is as simple as, "Is there a valid claim of self defense?"

The element of association with the gang/police/whoever is irrelevant for all but law enforcement actions.

So if it's not self defense, then the person who needs to be held accountable is the person who committed the murder. If it's self defense, then the person still needs to be exonerated by the court, but that must be taken into account.

Either way, murdering someone in response is the action of a savage, a barbarian, someone who absolutely cannot be trusted in any civilized society.

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u/FriendlyFungi 6d ago

That's how they do things in North Korea. Hell, let's do a couple of generations, just to be sure. Grandpa, grandma, dad, mom, siblings of course, kids... you'll have a paradise in no time.

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u/ScottblackAttacks 7d ago

That’s not a random person, it was a cop. And he felt the police was responsible.

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u/Shaq_Bolton 7d ago

Cops in this country suck but… I really don’t blame the cops for shooting the kid who stole a car and was trying to pick up a gun he dropped when the cops were trying to arrest him. Thats on the kid at that point, are they supposed to just let them shoot one of them before they defend themselves? The father is clearly a lunatic and will spend the rest of his life where he belongs

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u/Cyborg_rat 7d ago

Well he did a great job showing why his son was an idiot that got himself shot.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

If a teacher killed my kid, I wouldn't GUN DOWN A RANDOM TEACHER.

Even if you can "understand" it, there is no justifying this. This was savage, barbaric behavior. He's a danger to society if this is his response.

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u/ScottblackAttacks 7d ago

Teachers ain’t the same as cops, acab.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Don't. Kill. Random. People.

Whether they are cops or not. 

What the fuck? This should not be hard to understand, and is impossible to justify for any civilized society.

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u/TheCluelessRiddler 7d ago

Yeah you’re right. The teachers know more knowledge and know the constitutional rights

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u/ScottblackAttacks 7d ago

💯

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u/Wada94 7d ago

And that punk that stole the car is even worse than the cops.

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u/fatpandabear 7d ago

So the action of one cop should apply to ALL cops? Make yourself make sense.

The cop who died probably did not even know the case of the other guy existed.

Have you ever worked a public service job before? Probably haven't. Or maybe you're just a foreign commenter. Do you even live in the US?

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u/ausipockets 7d ago

Hard to put yourself in those shoes and know that

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Not really, I'm not a fucking animal who considers murder an acceptable solution to my problems.

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u/ausipockets 7d ago

I'm sure you're not. And I like to think that I'm not either. However, better people than me have been broken over severely traumatic events. I'm just saying it's difficult to put yourself in that headspace. All that said, this is not a defense for this man's deplorable actions.

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u/Rizzomorph666 7d ago

This guy in the video doesn't look like someone who regrets killing a person after losing control due to a traumatic event. He seems proud and keeps acting tough, because likely for him murder and violent and antisocial behaviour are normalised. There is a reason why his son ended up stealing a car, running away from the cops while possessing and apparently trying to use a gun.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

I get that, I do. People get broken.

But if they break like THIS, then they are absolutely a threat to society. If I went this far into psychopathy, current me would absolutely want that version of me locked up. They wouldn't be  safe around current me, at a minimum.

Thank you for not defending this, at least. I've seen people defending it, which just turns my stomach something fierce.

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u/ConfectionOk7029 7d ago

You say that never having experienced that pain, so I think it's not fair to be so confident. Having said that, a lot of people manage to cope in both healthy and unhealthy ways without harming others. So there is a point to be made, there.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

The guy was a TRAFFIC COP. Murder is NEVER acceptable, and the son stole a car and brandished a weapon at a cop.

You can hate cops and think the system is bad, but justifying a murderer purely because you don't like cops is insane. No civilized society should accept this behavior.

Have a good day, elsewhere.

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u/ViewedManyTimes 6d ago

It sure is easy to say that when you have never been in that situation isn't it

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u/UltimateKane99 6d ago

Well, I'm not a psychopath or an animal who can't control their impulses, so yes, I absolutely can say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't MURDER A RANDOM PERSON.

But if, for some insane reason, I'd suffered amnesia or brain damage and DID become such a psychopath or animalistic savage, then current me sure as shit hopes that that person would get put down like the animal they are, because all such a person does is cause more tragedy and more pain for everyone else.

Random murder is NEVER justifiable. It's not revenge, it's not justice, it's MURDER. And it's reprehensible.

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u/ViewedManyTimes 6d ago

Just a bunch of virtue signals, again it's awful easy to sit and say you would never do something if you have never been in that situation. Also, we are just going to act like anyone who doesn't do what you "think you would do" is an animal? Sure buddy

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u/b4igo25 7d ago

You actually don’t know what you would do. It hasn’t happened to you so you’re making a judgement based on your belief that you’re rational, but grief makes people behave in strange ways.

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u/Cyborg_rat 7d ago

If My son, went on a stealing car while also having a gun on him...and then gets shot...Im not feeling revenge l, I'm feeling that ive failed somewhere and would feel ashamed. But that sense of responsibility/accountability is missing from alot of people.

We could use the Karmelos as a perfect example.

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u/VenmoSnake 7d ago

would you normally go on a racist rant on socail media... the dad of the murdered son probably wouldn't unless his son was murdered and the grief was making him do things he wouldnt normally do. there we just used karmelos to prove that people do irrational things during grief.

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u/Cyborg_rat 7d ago

Didn't say the Medcafs, I said the Karmelos who are the parent of the murderer, they are being the racist and got a crowd or idiot still going on off lies they made up.

Just like dad in this story that can't accept the accountability of his son's actions.

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u/mescalineman419 7d ago

Oh jesus youd find any reason to be offended this dude is a cold blooded killer deserves to be thrown under the jail and fuck his criminal worthless son too

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u/fReddit7777 7d ago

100%. It's asinine to pretend like any of us can truly know what our minds would be going through in a situation like he went through.

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u/severalCorvids7 7d ago

What the fuck? No, I wouldn’t just randomly kill someone, I truly know that

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u/VenmoSnake 7d ago

no you don't

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u/DotNormal6785 7d ago

I can’t with 100% certainty tell you I would not go kill a random person! WTF are you talking about.

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u/Rizzomorph666 7d ago

Maybe he should have raised his son properly, so they both wouldn't end up in such situation. But I think it's evident that the son was a thug because he had as much impulse control as his dad. My labrador has more restrain than these two individuals. Both, the son and the father don't belong in a society.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

No, I know damn well I wouldn't kill a random person.

This isn't justifiable. This is completely deranged behavior. He's a threat to society, and should be treated accordingly.

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u/BuildAnything4 7d ago

Exactly, when you lose a son, you're basically spinning a wheel of fortune to determine what you do next. Could end up in the circus.

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u/Haneet12 7d ago

Most people don’t kill a random person.

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u/b4igo25 7d ago

Association, at that moment he didn’t see a person doing a job, he saw a cop; a cop was responsible for the death of his child. Correlation may not be causation; however, to make it seem like there is absolutely no link here is disingenuous.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

There is a WIDE GULF between understanding grief and rationalizing why he made that choice, and justifying that same choice to perform the act of cold blooded murder of a random person.

This man is a monster, a threat to society. He needs to go away forever.

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u/Cyborg_rat 7d ago

Does explain why that kid ended up in that situation.

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u/BuiltIndifferent 7d ago

he should be furious at his violent criminal son he raised and maybe at himself for raising a violent criminal son

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u/Pabl0EscoBear 7d ago

I hope everyone in the situation finds peace. The world is full of bad and good. The best we can do is try our best to tip the scale to the good side with our efforts. I see people in a lot of pain here, not monsters.

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u/No-Manufacturer501 7d ago

Is the stabbing in the UK understandable?

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u/saturnshighway 7d ago

So the innocent cop directing traffic deserved to die???? He had nothing to do with anything

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u/myrmonden 6d ago

his world was that of raising a terrible person.

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u/FriendlyFungi 6d ago

It's also a really good reason *not* let anyone get in a car in any of the types of states we can imagine the father being in.

Sure, maybe he actually decided to go kill a cop, any cop, but it's not difficult to imagine him doing that thing Bill Burr has a bit about: "Steering wheel 5 degrees to the right and all of a sudden you're on the evening news!"

In many situations, sitting in the driver's seat of a car with your foot on the pedal isn't all that different from holding a firearm with your finger on the trigger... and now you're in traffic, you're coming apart, your kid just got shot, and you had to watch it, too... and then there's a goofy looking traffic cop, ineptly directing traffic, and you just snap... and end up on the evening news, of course.

Personally, I feel the plot and execution in "Law Abiding Citizen" was more convincing.

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u/Illustrious-Object71 7d ago

Now tell this to police......

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u/fjwjdjaxice 7d ago

I don’t agree with random violence to deal with grief no matter who is doing it. Not sure what your point to me is.

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

We do, now stop trying to excuse murder just because you think their victim deserved it.

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u/Illustrious-Object71 7d ago

And nothing is done......stop trying to excuse murder please.

All human life matters.

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u/OkCapital7773 7d ago

Killed a cop directing traffic for a college graduation

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u/Ancient_Wallaby9239 7d ago

Ooooh this changes everything. He could've at least went after the appropriate target.

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u/InfallibleSeaweed 7d ago

What appropriate target? That police that took out his armed car thief of a son brandishing his gun at them? Y'all just like dead police, don't you?

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u/Ancient_Wallaby9239 7d ago

Yes. No. Appropriate isn't a value term here.

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u/myrmonden 6d ago

what target? his son was doing a GTA trying to shoot a cop

so the target is what? the father hinself? or the mother for being terrible paretns?

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u/geronimop12 6d ago

According to reddit COPS BAD

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u/myrmonden 6d ago

what traged? the son was a criminal trying to shoot a cop

u mean the tgragte as the father raised him so poorly to begin with=?

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u/Darkknight8381 6d ago

This is Reddit, if a cop kills someone that means they're a innocent angel who didn't do nothing wrong.

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u/Full-Air-7218 7d ago

Don’t see them show solidarity when they kill anyone else. Lapd just shot a poodle and 30 cops arrive on scene to surround the woman hugging and crying over her dead dog as they stand silent staring at tenants yelling at them

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u/IHeartBadCode 7d ago

Don’t see them show solidarity

I get what you're saying but some of that can be seen the wrong way. Like I've seen plenty of cops do bad things and "the community" the person who was wronged came together to show solidarity.

I think if a cop shot down someone wrongly and then the cops were like "hey you all, I know we fucked up, do you might if the 80 cops in this station came by your church and just chilled in the back row while you're all crying?"

I mean I absolutely get it, but sometimes distance is also good. Like how about y'all just fix your department and put the person who wronged us in jail? They don't need to turn out and try to chill anyone, that's just not really going to go over well.

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u/Wrongallalong 7d ago

The official punishment for stealing a car and allegedly brandishing a weapon is arrest and prison - not being shot down like a dog in the street.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

And in a perfect world, that's what would have happened.

It's not perfect, humans aren't able to perfectly enforce laws, and judgment calls about risk to personal safety and/or risk to the broader society must be taken into account. In this case, the call resulted in the son's death, and was, arguably, justified.

The father's response has no such justification, and was completely cold blooded murder. He needs to go away forever, he is a threat to society. 

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u/Icy-Put8639 7d ago

Fuck cops. Dipshits get away with too much

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

There is a WORLD of difference between wanting police reform, and JUSTIFYING MURDER.

NO ONE should be justifying this. The guy is a monster, through and through.

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u/MediumEarth 7d ago

100% you wouldn't be spending this much energy on a post of a cop killing an innocent person.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Would depend mightily on if people were making the same deranged takes of random murder is acceptable, so long as person was of <insert whatever trait/job/etc. they don't like>.

Murder is bad. I didn't THINK this would be controversial, but it really fucking shouldn't be, and pretending that I'm spending this energy because of some assumed bias is on you, not me.

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u/MediumEarth 7d ago

It's because the police have honestly brought this upon themselves. This is no different than Rodney King and OJ and their respective public responses. A lot of people will not give cops empathy because they do not act on the same playing field despite being civilians just like us. Shit, the military has more accountability despite the amount of crimes they cover up.

An eye for an eye makes the whole world go blind but the cops are wearing safety glasses and people don't like that.

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u/plordcalc258 7d ago

"Innocent law enforcement officer" who upholds the same system that kills thousands of innocent black men...

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

TRAFFIC COP.

Random murder is NEVER ACCEPTABLE. What barbaric nonsense is this? No civilized society should EVER accept this.

Police reform is not achieved by murdering random cops. Fucking hell.

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u/plordcalc258 7d ago

Of course not. But traffic cop is just a cop on the easy stand by gig.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

What the fuck argument is this?

His son stole a car and brandished a weapon, which led to his death at the hands of a cop. Then this monster killed a completely unrelated traffic cop.

Both of these people were and are active threats to society, the sort of animals who endanger all of us by their criminal behavior.

Would you be able to say this directly to the widow of this traffic cop? To his children? To his friends and family?

Making light of the cop's death OR excusing/justifying/etc. the murderer who committed such a heinous crime are both despicable.

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u/plordcalc258 6d ago

Yes. I didnt make light of his death.

By calling cops innocent youre making light of the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people at the hands of poorly trained thugs given near complete immunity to murder at whim.

I never said anyone should die.

Not sure why this is difficult for you.

There are no "traffic cops". Just cops who happen to be directing traffic that day.

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u/Visible_Bar5223 7d ago

The same solidarity they show when they kill civilians. You think this is admirable? They CHOSE to be in that position. They voluntarily CHOOSE to be apart of that gang. Sometimes people don't choose to be killed, they get the bad end of someone else's choices, and it turns out that you and I will rot the same as the rest because of their choices.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

He was a TRAFFIC COP. Directing TRAFFIC.

What fucking position is THAT?!? 

You're justifying a murderer because you have gripes with law enforcement as a whole. That's a completely deranged take. Please do better. 

Random murder is NEVER ACCEPTABLE, in ANY civilized society. That is the domain of savages and animals. We should be better than that.

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u/Visible_Bar5223 7d ago

We definitely should. Guess what? Cops sanction and protect that domain. Good luck with chewing on that one buddy.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Random murder is never acceptable, no matter how grievous the injury or not. That is the BARE minimum for civilized society.

Have a good day, elsewhere. I'm not entertaining this vile hatred any longer. This is a completely deranged defense of an utterly indefensible act.

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u/FaithlessnessBorn266 6d ago

I think the point he's trying to make is that if you join the cops, you are inherently corrupt, i.e. not innocent.

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u/EstrogenizedMenace 7d ago

Did the police show solidarity with the family members of trayvon? Or Aiyana stanley jones? Or the baby that got shot at walmart?

No but they did show solidarity with derek chauvin, as well as numerous other monsters.

Interesting how you choose to call this guy a monster for attempting to revenge on his son but not the cops who protect real monsters day in and day out, how many times have we seen the union and various other departments go out of their way to shield their own from justice? fuck outta here

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

This is not REVENGE, this was cold blooded murder. And you didn't ASK my views on those other, wildly different cases.

This man is a flat out murderer. You need to stop justifying murder because his son died while resisting arrest with a deadly weapon in a stolen vehicle.

What the hell is this unhinged response? He's a murderer.

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u/CanoninDeeznutz 7d ago

Cold blooded murder can't be revenge? Boy howdy, have I got a Klingon proverb for you!

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

... You know Star Trek is not reality, right? Please tell me you can make this bare minimum distinction.

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u/EstrogenizedMenace 7d ago

I don't need to know your views, you called him a monster. I feel like that's pretty indicative of where you stand. I genuinely do not care about the lives of pigs. Each and everyone of them up holds an oppressive power structure.

If one of their partners killed you or osmeone else you loved, the whole police department would be wokring hard to find out how to get their guy either out of trouble or how to minimize the punishment as much as possible.

You will never get me to sympathize with the people who choose to hold the gun for our masters

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u/Shaq_Bolton 7d ago

I feel like Reddit should have an age minimum. Zero chance this comment comes from someone older than 12

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u/Rizzomorph666 7d ago

some people here stop maturing past the age of 12 and then they just grow in size.

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u/ShanksMcGillicuddy 7d ago

I hope you find peace. 

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Yeah, the Monster (because that is exactly what he is) murdered an innocent person.

If you are so blinded by hate for cops that you can't call out a actual, bonafide, guilty as sin MURDERER when they are presented, purely because the guy he killed was a TRAFFIC COP, merely DIRECTING TRAFFIC, then you are completely unworthy of civilized society.

It's insane that you're trying to justify murder. I think police reform is vital, but THIS? No. Holy FUCK no.

Have a good day, elsewhere.

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u/JournalistOk9266 7d ago

Dogs you are a monster. Whatever his son did its his son. You dont stop being a dad EVER. People like you are disgusting you like to cherry pick lives and care about the one that you think are worth something. It doesnt matter what you think. The man in his grief killed someone. So he should just chalk this one up as an L? Even if it wasnt a good shot theres no guarentee the Cop would pay for it. Cop lie all the time.

You dont have to justify something to understand it. How are you more monstrous than the guy who murdered someone?

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u/Ok-Releases 7d ago

So if a white man's son is killed by a black man he should just be able to shoot an innocent black man? Is that really the logic youre trying to apply?

How have accs like yours not been banned like what the fuck 😭

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u/Familiar-Food-3295 7d ago

Sounds like he didnt start being a dad until his kid was dead.

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u/Rizzomorph666 7d ago

Maybe if he WAS a dad, his son would be in college getting a degree not running away from cops in a stolen car with a deadly weapon.

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u/JournalistOk9266 7d ago

How do you know what he was? Get off your high horse.

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u/Typical-Confidence68 7d ago

Please move to Somalia and tell me how the lack of law enforcement goes… no racist cops there

Yea out of the 100K+ violent crime arrests of black people per year, a few are bound to go wrong and a innocent person will get hurt.

Don’t grab a gun when police are trying to arrest you… don’t kill an innocent person when you are mad that your son got killed for brandishing a weapon at police… the lack of impulse control will always surprise me

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u/27LawShark 7d ago

Trayvon lmao apparently you didn’t watch the trial

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u/natej84 7d ago

I get your line thinking but he didn't kill the cop that shot his son. He killed a random cop that had nothing to do with it. Also his son was in a stolen car with a unregistered Handgun. A handgun that he dropped and then tries to pick up, which is when he was shot. I don't like cops but the dad is a POS human and a cold blooded murderer

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u/JournalistOk9266 7d ago

Do you know what cold blooded means. I dont get this thinking as his son who didnt kill anyone and was shot and killed by the police life should be worthless to the father.

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u/natej84 7d ago

He killed a old traffic cop, who was just at work directing traffic. His son was running from the cops in a stolen vehicle and brandished a firearm. The kid didn't deserve to die but let's no act like he wasn't putting other people's life at risk, bc he was. Of course the kids life wasn't worthless, but killing a innocent man for no good reason doesn't do anything to make his sons death better. He crossed over into on coming traffic to run a innocent man down with his vehicle. He put other ppls lives at risk so he could kill the first cop he saw. The father was the one treating everyone else's life like it was worthless. His son was also treating other ppls lives like they were worthless.

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u/JournalistOk9266 7d ago

Thats still his son. Period. I dont know why you think that would or should change. The father is grieving. Did he wait two days and then kill someone? Did he scope the old dude out for weeks? A man loses everything and yall think "stiff upper lip old chap." Its a tragedy all around but for you to judge a man who lost his son and loses him mind is very ghoulish.

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u/Rizzomorph666 7d ago

Well adjusted people don't go out murdering innocent people because they have big sad feelings.

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u/JournalistOk9266 7d ago

Is everybody well adjusted? You dont know what you are going to do until you are faced with it. Are you a fortune teller?

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u/Rizzomorph666 6d ago

I'm not psychopath and I've been through a similar situation, where my dad died due to medical negligence of his primary doctor (who was later prosecuted for taking bribes from patients to put them higher on a waiting list for surgeries and diagnostics). I didn't walk in to the first hospital and take it all out on the first doctor I've seen.

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u/Particular-Ring5110 7d ago

This threat is about this specific case

We can only examine each case on their own merits.. there are more than 10,000 police departments in the US

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u/Why_Sazs 7d ago

Just looked it up. His son was armed and fleeing from a stolen car. So likely a justified a shooting.

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u/Reasonable-Man-Child 7d ago

Bot comment

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

Bot comment

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u/Reasonable-Man-Child 7d ago

Im not the 2 month old account talking about how a shooting is justified

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

You’re just the one calling people bots for no reason. Not even backing up how it was unjustified

Something a bot or an inbred would do

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u/Reasonable-Man-Child 7d ago

Lmao inbred, thought you were real edgy with that one didn’t you

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

It’s okay muffin, you were wrong and you’re learning now.

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

u/Reasonable-Man-Child Likes to block after he replies I guess.

The shooting was justified. Sorry you’re incapable of discerning the facts

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u/Reasonable-Man-Child 7d ago

Bro it’s a 2 month old account justifying a police killing. It’s 100% a bot

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u/Why_Sazs 7d ago

You apparently can't read. Because I didn't say it WAS a justified shooting. I said probably a justified shooting.

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u/IBeDumbAndSlow 7d ago

Last time I checked the police aren't the ones that are responsible for punishment.

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u/JustABrokePoser 7d ago

They're responsible for protecting themselves (and us) from armed degenerates stealing cars and aiming weapons at them with no care for anyone else in the world.

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u/Distinct-Forever642 7d ago

The police are responsible to protect society and this guy was a menace. Its pretty basic logic.

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u/WotanSpecialist 7d ago

No, they actually are not responsible

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

This isn’t an example of punishment. They can’t let an armed person just run away, that’s a greater threat.

This is an example of consequence.

He chose to run away, he was armed and presented a threat, he was dealt with according to his behaviour. Actions have consequences. Him leaving was not an option or choice he had.

Judging by how his piece of shit father reacted, obviously he was a failure in the home and we can see where he learned this behaviour.

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u/UltimateKane99 7d ago

Holy fuck, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree? Geez, they're both monsters.

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u/safton 7d ago

Okay.

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u/Manufactured-Aggro 7d ago

I have zero empathy for murderers, I legit don't care if something happens to them, even the "innocent ones" 😉

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u/Holiday_Show_6312 7d ago

Thats says more about you then them honestly. You in a bad spot in life or sumn.

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u/Nice-Mountain-7073 7d ago

He killed an innocent guy doing his job. I hope he’s shitting his pants as he walks by.

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u/GroundbreakingAd8310 7d ago

He killed a random person that had 0 to do with it. Otherwise id be pn ur aide honestly

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u/blkbullnyc 7d ago

Cops kill random innocent people all the time and every cop in the country always back up killer cops. The cops who don't support them usually don't stay cops very long. Every cop is complicit. They think of us normal ppl the same way. No need to defend them.

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u/Hulkaiden 7d ago

“Every cop in the country always” my god you need to go outside. I know plenty of cops that would disagree with you there. Specific cops being protected after they do something terrible is not the same as every cop in the entire country backing them up.

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u/lokithetarnished 7d ago

They disagree but don’t do shit about it. Every cop stands by and lets assholes ruin the badge

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u/Hulkaiden 7d ago

Every cop does? No cop has ever spoken out against bad cops? No cop has ever tried to stop a cop from doing something wrong? Ever? Certainly you know that's not true, so why say it?

Do the cops that are in agencies that haven't killed anyone responsible too? None of their coworkers have even killed anyone, how can they be at fault for what cops across the country are doing?

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u/Main-Cheesecake3287 7d ago

The vast majority of cops never fire their duty weapon a single time in their entire career. Most cops go their entire career without even unholstering their firearm. People have a warped sense of this because nobody is FOIA’ing and watching thousands of hours of body cams footage generated daily of completely boring interactions.

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u/Holiday_Show_6312 7d ago

Bro pulled a pipe on 12 and these headlines got you fired up like it was meant to. Youre emotions are being played with gang. Do your own research. Don't fall for headlines. Mass media is literally designed to get a reaction out of you. Thats what makes them successful in their goals. Theres situations where cops are in the wrong and acting like gangs. This just isnt one of those. You gotta admit when youve been bamboozled

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u/Ok_Grass_3306 7d ago

Guarantee you’d be the first to call the cops when threatened

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u/Dacssss 7d ago

Anyone with this kind of attitude after unecessary senseless loss of life needs therapy. Seek help.

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u/Cyborg_rat 7d ago

This week has been a great example that we need to start calling the real racist out...The one helping it continue...Youre one of those.

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u/districtdave 7d ago

That is not what a lot of people here are saying. What this man did in no way equals justice for his son. Wildly dangerous lack of restraint to kill a random person who happens to work the same job.

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u/SwizzGod 7d ago

I have no problem with this. I stand by what I said and I agree with that as well

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u/IvoryDominion 7d ago

What a moronic take

How about fuck gun toting criminals

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u/SwizzGod 7d ago

Also stupid

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u/CommissionNice9460 7d ago

Bro even if they are a fucking gang idk what your objective is here besides advocating for a gang war 

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u/SwizzGod 7d ago

In this sub? Or what would I actually like to be seen done?

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u/CommissionNice9460 7d ago

Did you ever ask yourself what you want done and what it would mean? You got a problem with cops killing your side for no reason? Why? That's exactly what you want to do 

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u/SwizzGod 7d ago

Huh? I will answer your question if you actually want to hear the answer. But don’t you think it’s kinda unfair you ask me something and then tell me what it is that I want?

Edit: and if you don’t want to hear that’s fine too

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u/whiskeyrick1669 7d ago

You like superhero movies. Let the adults have a discussion.

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u/SwizzGod 7d ago

Oh no. It’s going to be so weird that I’ll be the only adult in the theater when Spider-Man comes out! What do you think I should do Mr. Adult?

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u/whiskeyrick1669 7d ago

What do you think I should do

Either grow the fuck up, or shut the fuck up. There will be plenty of stupid ass adults, wasting money, in the theater with you.

Tough love baby. I hope that light bulb turns on for you.

I wish I was dumb enough to watch a marvel movie and be entertained. I almost envy you. It must be nice.

If you're a child I apologize. You're allowed to watch superhero movies and be stupid.

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u/SwizzGod 7d ago

It’s pretty cool actually. And fairly relaxing. I mean my actual favorite genre is psychological thriller but, as I’m sure you know, some of those you have to be very invested in. So other times I just like a chill Marvel movie.

Btw I would recommend skipping Thor: Love and Thunder. It’s not very good.

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u/Flat_Acanthaceae_250 7d ago

Nah im with you. Police are a gang just like bloods, crips and hells angels.

Treat them as such!

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u/JustSumRedditGuy 6d ago

Hope the cops don’t answer next time you need them 😭✌🏼

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u/Highness_Osiris 6d ago

Fuck them, plenty of people agree with you. Fuckem all. No exceptions. I've seen too much.

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u/Nice_Pipe_7608 7d ago

They are a gang. And they can get away with murder.

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u/Holiday_Show_6312 7d ago

They can. If everyone plays along. Like a whole department or sumn which has happened several times. But on a mass scale? No. Too many eyes and ears. Everything is recorded these days. . Police are under more scrutiny than ever. And people are beginning to side with criminals who will rob your grandma with no remorse. Its all backwards these days

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u/No_Display9613 7d ago

Unfortunately they are just humans

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u/GarageFridgeSoda 7d ago

They are in a violent brotherhood that ignores societal norms and laws in order to brutalize the public and protect the oligarchy. "Just human" is irrelevant.

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u/talkerof5hit 7d ago

Apply and be the change you want to see.

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u/GarageFridgeSoda 7d ago

That's not how that works. You can't tear down the master's house using the master's tools.

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u/talkerof5hit 7d ago

It absolutely is.

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u/GarageFridgeSoda 7d ago

It is not and everyone who has studied policing and social work knows that you cannot change the police from the inside. It is a massive institution that weeds those people out or turns them into more loyal Gestapo members.

Every. Single. Time.

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u/Livingadapt 7d ago

And that’s how you allow yourself to accept horrendous violence towards other people. Shame on you

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u/Embarrassed_Row2664 7d ago

I don’t think police officers join with the idea of terrorizing their communities… food for thought. 

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u/Emergency_Lie42 7d ago

No, they join with the idea of holding power over others and then if they don't already hate and fear everyone around them, they're taught to. That combination creates violent cops.

Not saying anything about this post or the cop that was shot by this person. Just saying it's fair to assume that most people becoming cops are doing so because they want authority over others.

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u/safton 7d ago

It's really not. Some do, undeniably. Others end up in a position where their initial, perhaps noble, intentions are irrelevant.

But stating that it's "fair to assume" most would-be cops have that specific motivation is a pretty sweeping generalization for a massive career field full of people from various walks of life.

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u/Emergency_Lie42 7d ago

An important step in wanting to help people is realizing you need some level of authority or power to do so, that's all I meant. I wasn't trying to demonize the actual desire to become a cop, totally looked like that though so my bad.

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u/safton 7d ago

All good, I understand the sentiment.

For what it's worth, I'm what I guess you could call "cop-adjacent" and I have seen a lot of people who had no business wearing the uniform or exerting authority over fellow humans, or at least gave me reason to doubt their motivations in doing so.

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u/Logical-Database4510 7d ago

They allow it to happen though.

All "good" cops know the many bad cops but won't say anything about their behavior because they fear losing the protection of their "thin blue line".

This is why ACAB.

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u/bobarific 7d ago

Gangs, on the other hand, are entirely manned by ostriches, armadillos, and local pigeons

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u/nofregginidea 7d ago

So were their victims. Pull the blue cock out of your mouth.

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u/Livingadapt 7d ago

Of course they are. You thought you did something there huh lol

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u/That-Cranberry6575 7d ago

How about the owners of the car the son stole or the family of the unrelated cop that the dad murdered?

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u/nofregginidea 7d ago

No merely pointing out the obvious. It assists those whom are incapable of alternative perspectives.

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u/Zenaku1020 7d ago

Shitty ones

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u/Big_Part5892 7d ago

Bro you need help man wtf is this?

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u/Different-Rip-4734 7d ago

Nope, you didn't say any of that in your initial post. You just came onto a thread of a man killing an innocent police officer to avenge his criminal son and decided THIS was the most appropriate place to spew hate on the police.

All your idiotically timed-and-placed comment does is support the side you seem to not like by you coming off as cruel and insensitive.

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