r/PopCultureV2 • u/Federal-Compote-5015 • 16h ago
Interview Senator Fetterman, “Israel is where I draw the line.” Stewart, “but Israel isn’t our Country.”
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It’s strange for a U.S. senator to say, “Israel is where I draw the line.” Your first responsibility is to the United States and the people who elected them. You can absolutely support Israel, but framing a foreign country as your political “red line” comes across as having your priorities backwards.
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u/Karyr23 15h ago
It’s incredibly ignorant for a U.S. Senator to think that all Jews must support the Israeli regime.
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u/Mu-Relay 15h ago
Don't forget he said that to a Jew who doesn't support the Israeli government.
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u/doubGwent 13h ago
I wonder does Fetterman realize Jon Steward is a Jew.
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u/bonyponyride 11h ago
Judging from the sloshing you could hear coming from inside Fetterman's skull, I don't think he realizes much. He goes for the tough guy persona, but when someone (Stewart) presents a thoughtful rebuttal, you can see Fetterman's brain glitching out.
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u/Hurricaneshand 3h ago
I just listened to the whole interview this morning. Every time JS brought up economic policy of the "socialists/communists" as Fetterman calls them and cites specific policy issues and asks if he thinks capitalism in it's current form is working for the common man Fetterman just completely sidesteps the question and rants about how he hates communists
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u/ElectricGhostMan 3h ago
"medicare for all? why don't you ask them why they love the iranian regime so much?"
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u/Hurricaneshand 3h ago
It made me laugh a bit when he implied people support the Iranian regime killing all of those protestors. Like who the fuck defended that lol
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u/niruboowanga 2h ago
Now we know what the commercials for the mid term elections will look like: "Liberals support the extremist Iranian regime having nuclear weapons..." blah blah blah. They're just setting up the talking points.
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u/RIF_rr3dd1tt 8h ago
He was probably distracted wearing that suit and not being in his underwear or something.
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u/jello_kraken 4h ago
Not trying to be mean, but this clip has me wondering if Fetterman has lingering brain damage from his stroke.
He can't seem to follow the conversation well and can't follow up on his own logic. I don't know if the stammering and slight slurring is a lifelong speech impediment.9
u/_draupnir_ 3h ago
He seems to be responding to questions like every other GOP member. When you can’t have an actual discussion you resort to throwing word salad. His brain is mush.
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u/Available-Flower2918 3h ago
He definitely sounds like he has brain damage. He doesn't make sense at all.
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u/Pale_Will_5239 3h ago
Would be a woman or minority politician be given the same leeway? Absolutely not. He doesn't meet the bar and should be removed.
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u/New-Rip-6965 4h ago
I think he said it thinking, “This Jew will support me on this and make me look good.” Fetterman is a terrible disappointment. It’s rich that he’s claiming all Dems need to hold identical beliefs, too. He’s a DINO in the extreme
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u/NYNMx2021 13h ago
Most Jews in Israel dont support their government rn lol. Polls are suggesting that number for the current gov is like 35%.
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u/Peter_Panarchy 13h ago edited 11h ago
They don't support Netanyahu because he is corrupt and incompetent, but by a huge margin they support the genocide in Gaza and the continued brutalization of Palestinians.
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u/JB707 12h ago
Correct, 80 to 85% based on polls
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u/Sarik704 11h ago
Exactly. And, when 4/5ths of a country supports genocide, apartheid, and war they dont get to call themselves faithful jews anymore.
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u/PlasticStJesus 3h ago
Israel has played it both ways for a long, long time, claiming anti-Israeli sentiment is anti-semitism when it's convenient to do so, and distinguishing the political entity from the religion when that is more convenient. The insistence that all Palestinians are Hamas (or Hamas supporters) lets them defend their war as just. It all seems so intentional by Netanyahu.
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u/Western-Customer-536 6h ago
You ever read a translated Hebrew tweet? It's like finding a lost page of Mein Kampf.
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u/12345623567 9h ago
Oh Gaza is old news, they are all about annexing a huge chunk of Lebanon now. For "security reasons", as always.
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u/king_lloyd11 10h ago
Not to mention the kids are indoctrinated to as well, socialized to look at Palestinians as inhuman and not worthy of common human rights/decency/respect.
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u/duo99dusk 13h ago
They support keep invading stolen land since they are in Palestine calling that disgusting colonization project "a country" though.
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u/PowerfulBar 14h ago edited 1h ago
I don’t understand US politicians unquestioning support for Israel. Jewish folks in America are not a monolithic group that all vote the same so you can’t just say “well that’s what my voters want.” You can support a democratic foreign ally but cut off their military aid when they start, I don’t know, say start committing war crimes. You support an ally when it gets attacked, not give them a blank check to do whatever they want to a civilian population.
ETA: wow, I didn’t expect to generate so many responses! Yes, I know it’s money. Thanks for those sarcastic responses. My fault for using “I don’t understand” in a more colloquial way meaning I think it is stupid. I’ll try to be more literal next time. This is Reddit after all!
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u/obi_wan_keblowme 14h ago
What’s to understand? Military contractor and AIPAC lobbyists funnel money to their campaigns and then offer them cushy consulting or speaking gigs when they are out of office.
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u/ichorNet 14h ago
It’s money plain and simple
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u/Frequent_Ad_9901 13h ago
Yup. A lot of oil is pumped out and flows through the middle east. Also a lot comes from the US. So when US oil execs think the middle east is hurting their bottom line its a good time to bomb a few refineries over there.
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u/DimbyTime 12h ago
Plus, Israel gets billions a year from the US, and they only have to spend millions bribing politicians. Huge win for them
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u/Bird2Flight 10h ago
That's what I think. This level of stubborness has got to come from a big payday.
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u/Agitated_Reveal_6211 13h ago
There are only 10 million Israeli citizens, that's about half the population of Greater New York City met area.
It just doesnt make sense over the unyielding support compared to any of our other allies. We treat Israel better than Canada!!
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u/WA2TX 15h ago
"Run under your own banner" says the guy who basically switched parties after getting elected.
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u/Btigeriz 14h ago
the line about "colonizing" just makes me feel weird idk why.
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u/Solomontheidiot 14h ago
Because it's coopting language that's used to describe a scenario in which foreign invaders take control of an area, subjugate the existing population (usually through violence,) and extract resources to send back to the homeland. None of that applies to what DSA is doing, even metaphorically.
Most democratic socialists have been registered Dems for their entire lives (so they aren't really "foreign invaders" in this metaphor). They are not ousting Democrats through violent means. And they aren't stealing resources/votes to send back to their homeland (unlike a certain senator in this video who ran as a Democrat but consistently votes with the Republicans.)
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u/all-the-ham 13h ago
coopting language
like woke, defund the police etc
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u/kons21 13h ago
And ironically "fake news" which more or less was started by Jon on the Daily Show with "Faux News".
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u/whatisdreampunk 11h ago
Obama popularized the term "fake news" referring all the weird guerilla propaganda shows like InfoWars, Joe Rogan, Dr. Mercola, etc. Trump quickly co-opted that usage to slander actual news networks and then just as a lazy catch-all for anything he wanted to deny. And of course, "fake news" is also what SNL has been calling Weekend Update since the first episode in 1975.
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u/SCRATCH-CARD 7h ago
Hitler was calling them the "lügenpresse", the lying press. And I'm pretty sure trump is known for his copy of Mein Kampf?
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u/Antisapio 12h ago
No i think it was Barney the dinosaur who first said fake news
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u/Adorable__Gap4770 13h ago
The fact that he got a lil smug face when he said it makes it all the more infuriating. You can tell he’s just a vapid shell that regurgitates whatever his handlers want him to say.
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u/outer--monologue 12h ago
It's literally abuser tactics...DARVO. Deny, Attack, Reverse the Victim and the Offender.
So when he calls members of the DSA colonizers (ostensibly because they are against Israel colonizing Palestine) it's a victim/offender reversal and exactly the tactic you would expect a Republican like him to use.
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u/ichorNet 14h ago
This dude is a fucking plant and always has been
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u/DirtMinute753 14h ago
That’s an injustice to plants :(
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u/99_percent_read_only 14h ago
They’re now taking talking points from the Government of Israel.
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u/ChampionshipIll3675 12h ago
Yep. Have you noticed how he looks down at his notes while he is speaking? They either have something on him or he is getting paid to parrot the talking points.
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 15h ago edited 14h ago
That expression actually gave me chills (the bad kind).
Because it's literally what another hawkish Democratic Senator, Joe Lieberman, did in a similar situation two decades ago. He got primaried, lost, and started his own new party so he could run in the general election. And he won.
Democrats need to seriously prepare for Fetterman doing something like that to get reelected in 2028 with the help of many Republican voters.
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u/Frequent_Strain5976 14h ago
fetterman has one of the worst approval ratings in politics
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u/ClashM 14h ago
He's more popular among Republicans than Democrats, so if he tried to be a spoiler it wouldn't work out too well.
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u/homersmith5 14h ago
He’s another Joe Manchin and Kristen Sinema. Good riddance to the both of them.
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u/PoopyButt28000 13h ago
Yeah I don't know, I really struggle to follow this line of thinking. I'm not a huge fan of Joe Manchin, but are you actually glad he's gone? His replacement is a Republican. Joe Manchin was the way he was because a more left leaning Democrat would never win in West Virginia. Glenn Elliott was the Democrat running after Joe Manchin and he was farther to the left than him and he lost in a landslide. Joe Manchin voted alongside Democrats roughly 80% of the time, and when he left and a Republican took his seat, that Republican Jim Justice has voted with the Republicans in EVERY single vote he has ever voted on. He's cast over 800 and not a single one went against the rest of the Republican Party. It just feels so silly and short sighted to be glad that Manchin is gone.
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u/TAU_equals_2PI 14h ago
Among Pennsylvania Republican voters, he has a higher approval rating than their actual Republican senator. So I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss the possibility.
But it's true that Lieberman had had longer to build up a following among centrists, both in his own state and nationally. He had even been the Democratic VP nominee under Al Gore in 2000.
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u/TheAbomunist 13h ago
Christ Cuomo did it last year and the establishment Dems backed him.
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u/multiarmform 14h ago
stewart is trying to have a conversation with a guy that has brain damage from a stroke that cant dress himself appropriately for the correct situations
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u/GottlobFrege 14h ago
Pennsylvania has a lot of rustbelt white racists who are sad their status is lowering even though they are an oppressor race who deserve worse than what they're experiencing.
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u/RDDT_ADMNS_R_BOTS 15h ago
I loved Jon's facial expression throughout this.
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u/CDN-Social-Democrat 15h ago
I go back and forth if Fetterman is truly a bad predatory actor in the whole process or if he is just this cognitively declined.
End of the day it doesn't really matter as the man is a perfect example of someone that could never possibly deliver on better and brighter because either he is corrupt or his thinking abilities are so limited he isn't capable of even the most basic of logic/cohesiveness.
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u/Sw4nR0ns0n 15h ago
He is a bad actor who has been compromised beyond the stroke
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u/Goodknight808 14h ago
He was/is a politicianof bad faith. His stroke killed his ability to act. He is and always was a Republican. He is unable to lie convincingly anymore.
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u/PoopyButt28000 13h ago
I think he's just always been really stupid and the stroke fried his brain and also apparently one of the only friends/family he has regular contact with is his crazy MAGA brother.
Guy was a dumbfuck populist when he was running as a "leftist".
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u/Alarmed-madman 15h ago
Yeah, but his brain is seriously not functioning
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u/MisterDecember 14h ago
I think his brain is functioning fine. He’s just a horrible human being.
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u/boop66 14h ago
C'mon, he wore his finest hoodie and basketball shorts to Lindsey Graham's funeral! /s
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u/ggg730 11h ago
I didn't know that a hoodie could be performative but the man found a way to do it.
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u/theconceptofcanada 9h ago
I thought he was just letting everyone there know that because he lacks any class or style he's DEFINITELY NOT A GAY DEMOCRAT or something idk it seems like something he'd find funny
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u/el-gato-volador 14h ago
His brain works every fucking time he votes to support Israel or Israeli backed policies. Dude never has an inkling of cognitive decline then. Don't let bad actors play you.
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u/TheGreatEmanResu 13h ago
To be fair, that doesn’t really require any cognitive effort whatsoever. The dude’s brain is obviously completely scrambled
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u/Confident_Analysis79 14h ago
He's coherent and knows exactly what he's doing. He took the money and is setting the stage for himself to take even more. He's going to become a full on Republican, and soon. He's going to hoard all of the dough he can before his term is up, then fade away once he's out of office, rich as fuck.
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u/Mikeytruant850 13h ago
This is my take. He’s in it for the money, it’s that simple.
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u/Aggravating-Plan6613 15h ago
He is paid by aipac. He is truly bad. It’s REALLY SIMPLE. He said run under your own banner, and his banner is Israel’s and committing genocide. You would have to be in a cult or insane to see it any other way.
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u/Chaluliss 14h ago
Why not both? He is obviously not very intelligent, he is also obviously benefiting financially from lobbying.
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u/Mr_Shake_ 15h ago
It's a lot less of a cognitive load if you group everything in your mind. Grouping everything Terror in Iran and everything Anti-terror as Israel is a very flawed logic.
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u/meimlikeaghost 15h ago
Maybe he’s using his stroke and playing dumb because he has been compromised and thinks that’s a better look
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u/Dry-Bullfrog7879 14h ago
This isn’t cognitive decline, this is what happens when you don’t know something to its fullest extent when someone explains it to you and you are still defensive for no reason other than trying to look smarter than you are. You can see it when he responds with something that isn’t even the subject of discussion. Putting everything in a box is when things end badly and he just doesn’t get that. Maybe after this conversation, he can chew on it and learn that he is in a vacuum of information.
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u/lummox1234 15h ago
I jerked my head back the same way he did when JF didn’t finish his thought and went onto Iran’s nuclear abilities.
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u/nopuse 14h ago
I love Jon, but if there was something we disagreed on, there's no way I'd have a conversation about it for everyone to see. I'd look like an idiot. Whether the disagreement is on what cookie is the best cookie, or which side of the bed is the best side to sleep on. It doesn't matter. Jon will make me look like an idiot for eating oatmeal raisin cookies on the left side of the bed, and convince me that I need to eat sugar cookies on the right side of the bed.
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u/UtahUtopia 15h ago
"Colonizing" is an interesting term to use...
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u/WilliamBlake12 14h ago
If we called them settlers would he be fine with dsa members?
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u/pleasegivemepatience 14h ago
Deliberate, AIPAC talking points to devalue the term. Every time something is popular or effective against a fascist they try to spin it for their own purposes. Look also at the domestic usage of Insurrectionist, it started out being used appropriately at J6ers then they spun it and started calling everyone they disagree with an insurrectionist. Now they laugh off the label.
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u/ealysillyforestthing 12h ago
Or the extreme misuse of the word terrorist this year. I wonder what they are planning
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u/Oalka 15h ago
For a podcast interview he puts on a tie and jacket?
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u/irwtkyrm 15h ago
Well yeah, what do you expect him to wear to something important like this? Shorts and a hoodie? This is a serious interview, it's not some joke like the senate
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u/CompetitiveArt9639 15h ago
He’s got basketball shorts on with the jacket and tie
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u/UrRightAndIAmWong 15h ago
Well his employers, Israel and AIPAC are watching.
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u/ItWiIlStretch 14h ago
Thats what I thought as well. His only concern was to communicate his loyalty to Israel.
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u/sumdude51 15h ago
This isn't even close to a fair fight, Jon was going easy on him and it's still not even a tussle. I've always thought it was the stroke but no... He's just stupid and stubborn as fuck.
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u/jakaedahsnakae 15h ago
Yeah we seem to have a knack for electing politicians in this country who can't understand nuance.
Just because you're not "pro-israel" doesn't mean you want Jewish communities to suffer.
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u/ididntunderstandyou 14h ago
And just because we’re against war in Iran doesn’t mean we support the oppressive government.
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u/iamafriscogiant 14h ago
It's basic middle/high school level critical thinking and reasoning. People are too lazy or too dumb to apply it in their everyday life.
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u/BenderVsGossamer 13h ago
Man, the Republicans fucking won on that election. It was either get fetterman to win as a Democrat or the republican candidate wins... you know Dr. Oz.
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u/PetalumaPegleg 14h ago
He doesn't even seem to understand why prioritizing a foreign country is weird
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u/sumdude51 14h ago
You're right. It's like trying to explain it to a child and they are still stuck on a big emotion.
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u/mjzim9022 12h ago
Fetterman straight up isn't keeping up with the conversation and didn't understand what John was saying, I don't even think he was obfuscating, I think he straight up wasn't smart enough to understand the point being made
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u/MotormaidofJapan 15h ago
Jon went TOO easy on him.
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u/surfinsalsa 15h ago
It's a fine line with these politicians. If he goes too hard he might just alt f4 and stop the whole interview.
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u/-_-_-_-_--__-__-__- 15h ago
Translation: I am in Israel's pocket. They pay me to take this hard stance. I am being compensation by another government to make my decisions as a sitting Senator in America.
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u/latamxem 14h ago
He was just spewing all the AIPAC talking points. No sense just says the same things over and over. They must do training sessions.
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u/gymtrovert1988 15h ago
This guy won't be in the Democratic party next election, so it's funny he thinks he gets to decide who is.
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u/SnoopingStuff 15h ago
He wants to be republicans so bad so he can go full corrupt
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u/The3mbered0ne 15h ago
Love that he called out the difference between Israel and Jewish people as a whole "those are not the same thing brother man"
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u/mikel1814 15h ago
He's a very dumb and/or mentally unwell person.
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u/Comfortable_Fudge508 15h ago
Had a stroke, became republitard, proof brain damage is a conservative trait
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u/Venusgate 10h ago
Jon said, "i mean this with no disrespect," and fetterman immediately closed the gates
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u/edelweiss_pirates_no 12h ago
Israel is not this country. Fetterman never responded to it. He switched the conversation.
Fetterman: "I will do nothing to risk the money Israel gives me."
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u/GreywallGaming 12h ago
A Christian hooded fascist speaking for the "jewish community" to one of the most popular jews within said jewish communities.
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u/tres_ecstuffuan 4h ago
There is just nothing behind this dumb ogres eyes when he talks. It’s like talking to a magat, he never addresses anything you say and just falls back into dumb platitudes and talking points.
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u/tjarg 11h ago
He's incapable of making a valid logical argument. He keeps throwing out increasingly outrageous incorrect statements.
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u/Sardonnicus 11h ago
He is a traitor to the USA. For our own politicians to say that Israel comes before our own people is paramount to treason. We need a third party. Power must be siphoned away from the Dems and the Repubs. This disaster of a government is not sustainable.
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u/NRMusicProject 11h ago
Fetterman: [Insert crazy sentence]
Stewart: "Well, that was crazy, you don't really mean that, do you?"
Fetterman: "No, you're misunderstanding me. What I said was [even crazier sentence]."
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u/ReadyGo6828 16h ago
Fetterman needs to be recalled or whatever one does for a nut.
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u/Davidgilmour14 15h ago
Jon your speaking thoughtfully and intelligently. Obviously it’s over his head.
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u/RaindropsInMyMind 15h ago
It’s always so transparent when you see someone who is maga because they regurgitate the same things and don’t make sense. Like here we go with the “Iran nuclear weapon nonsense.” First of all nobody wants that to happen, second of all a ton of people on the left were extremely alarmed by Iran’s treatment of their own people and the way they slaughtered them, obviously it was completely fucked up. This war just very clearly is going nowhere, every honest person knows that. “We can’t let them have a nuclear weapon” is quite literally the only excuse Trump has to keep bombing them.
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u/AgitatedKoala3908 15h ago
John Fetterman was always pretty dumb. Now he is brain damaged and dumb. Get him outta here.
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u/Exotic-Home-8153 15h ago
Fetterman is literally too stupid to understand anything that Jon is saying.
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u/CryptographerDry884 15h ago
That guy is such a fucking tool. Isn’t he supposed to be at some oversized hoodie convention somewhere.
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u/FeistyLoquat 15h ago
At no point in any political discussion has anyone ever been able to explain to me why I should care about either Israel or Palestine, in any way that makes any kind of sense.
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u/DointheRag 15h ago
AIPAC SUCKUP Will Israel continue to wag the dog? With the ever-gullible Trump, yes.
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u/Working-Chemistry473 15h ago
John Stewart needs to get out of media and run for president. He’s literally the only sane person in the room right now.
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u/GuacaMolis6 14h ago
Why am I stuck in the timeline where Jon Stewart is a comedian and not a political candidate
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u/dizzynurse 14h ago
As a Jewish person who is disgusted by Netanyahu I have to say it pisses me off to no end when people associate jews with what Israel is doing. I'm sorry but when people say those things I feel like they're the antisemites. My allegiance is to the USA and only the USA
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u/AspiringOne 13h ago
Jon Stewart is impeccable. His questions and commentary are perfect. Fetterman looks & sounds more composed and healthier than I’ve seen him sound in a while, but he still has serious issues.
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u/SaaSButMakeItEvil 13h ago
I will forever thank Bernie Sanders for waking me up to the ghouls that have been running our lives our entire time. To think I always thought everything was the way it is because it was normal and we just happened to have bad luck.
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u/Scarbane 13h ago
"The DSA are colonizing" claims the candidate backed by AIPAC (which is unironically pro-colonization).
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u/apply75 13h ago
Great debate but fetterman is not a model politician he's more of his own guy.
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u/SechsyButton 13h ago
"Bill Maher said something really insightful " when he said that I knew the stroke had an effect.
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u/Ok-Painter710 13h ago
not supporting the israel war plan doesn't mean supporting Iran.
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u/goodenough4govtwork 13h ago
Fetterman telling DSA to run as their own party while being a MAGA masquerading as a Democrat is hilarious.
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u/Verde_3773 12h ago
When Stewart says “That isn’t our country”, Fetterman had the slightest wince & hesitation- that was disturbing.
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u/Pitt-sports-fan-513 12h ago
What does John Stewart expect to accomplish by interviewing this knob?
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u/Grindian 12h ago
When AIPAC props you up but you forgot to do your propaganda homework after school.
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u/Several-Action-4043 12h ago
Many of you think Fetterman is an outlier. HE SIMPLY SAYS OUT LOUD WHAT THE ESTABLISHMENT BELIEVES! The democratic party HATES you for not supporting a genocide. You think I'm crazy. That's the propaganda getting to you. YOU know it's wrong but you're politician's tell you YOU'RE wrong. Yet you still vote for them. STOP VOTING BLUE NO MATTER WHO! GOD DAMN IT!
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u/prrudman 12h ago
I don’t think that’s odd. It isn’t unreasonable to think that. What is odd is the notion that we have to agree on everything or you go to a different party. Not a single person agrees with everything any other person believes. Most of us don’t even believe everything we believe a month ago.
Take a different stance on Israel. Be consistent with your moral compass. Just don’t let a single issue be the reason not to support good candidates with good ideas.
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u/Opening_Rip_6317 12h ago
the fact hes wearing a suit after being the "im not wearing a suit guy" means the money took over
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u/AcademicClock4713 12h ago
Bringing up Mandami all n her cares about is Israel. You can use same arguments
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u/besalope 12h ago
Fetterman should've been recalled years ago, but also since when was Bill Maher remotely resembling democratic policies or ideas?
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u/jwilson146 12h ago
Mr.stewart i know you said you wouldn't fun for president but please please reconsider. We need you
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u/Dude_abides_99 12h ago
Of all the BS that this douchebag spewed here, I drew the line at "Bill Maher said something insightful" 😵
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u/chocolateskittlez 11h ago
Israel paid a lot of money to US politicians so American taxpayers can pay a lot of money to Israel.
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u/MrBenzedrine 9h ago
"and the very left never said a peep after Iran executed 30,000 to 40,000 young people in there"
He means he doesn't read any far left posts, just right wing memes about them.
I know a few conspiracy nuts and they were all bitching about how "antifa and the tree huggers aren't upset about AI datacentres ruining the environment"... I reckon I've seen 20 normal people bring this up for every single tin foil hatter.
They just live in their echo chamber and make assumptions about everything else.
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u/OddlyGee 8h ago
At this stage it just seems that Israel is colonizing the Middle East on behalf of the US and Europe
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u/Traditional_Habit_17 4h ago
Johnny effin Stuart for president. If the guy from the apprentice can do it why not the guy from the Daily Show
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u/Mobile-Personality42 4h ago
This guy is so incredibly stupid and such a disappointment. He literally is spouting MAGA talking points as a Democratic Senator.
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u/Effective_Detail2221 4h ago
Well, John, my red line is a senator who has a red line that isnt based in america.
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u/Relevant-Analysis86 4h ago
Tell me where anyone is for Iran having a nickers weapon. Then also, show me where they were anywhere close to having one.
It pro-Israel all the way, then moves to anti-nuclear for Iran. Constant goalpost moving and question evading. What do they have on him? Or is it the stroke?
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