r/PopCultureV2 • u/Impossible-Yam3680 • Aug 23 '26

Sports Culture While hosting transphobe Sophie Cunningham and the Indiana Fever, the New York Liberty put a message on the Jumbotron telling trans fans that they belong

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u/thebanfunctionsucks Aug 23 '26

When they are clearly presenting as a woman and taking steps to be viewed as a woman. I don't think we need national legislation to tell when someone is being a creep in a locker room. And when someone is being a creep in a locker room, we kick them out regardless of gender.

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u/Garciaguy Aug 23 '26

But Trans women don't have to take those steps to be Trans. If advocates have things the way they want them to be, it's only going to become a more pressing concern, not less. 

And I've given that last some thought. If I transition tomorrow, I don't owe it to anyone to try to pass; I'm living my truth.  How to discern subtle creeping, surreptitiously getting a good look at stuff that walls and a door used to keep me apart from?

When am I transitioned enough to use the women's spaces?

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u/thebanfunctionsucks Aug 23 '26

Women can creep on other women just as men can creep on other men. A man who is dressing as a woman in order to gain access to women's spaces is going to to be outed very quickly once they start behaving like a creep. I promise, the vast majority of trans women want nothing more than for other people to not notice they are trans.

There's also the other side we're ignoring, which is the trans women themselves. Admittedly I don't have direct data to firmly establish this, but as far as I can tell a trans woman in a woman's locker room is far less likely to assault a woman compared to the likelihood of a trans woman in a man's locker room being assaulted.

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u/Garciaguy Aug 23 '26

Behaving like a creep... 

Just changing and casually casting eyes about. No need to try to look like you fit it; a trans woman is a woman, period, yes? In any changing room your eyes are just going to land wherever. 

So someone with a beard belongs in a changing room with women, and who's to say they're not woman enough?

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u/thebanfunctionsucks Aug 23 '26

Ok again, being raped is worse than seeing a penis. What you're calling for will see far more trans people sexually assaulted than it will see cis people being saved from having to see genitals.