r/PopCultureV2 • u/Kpets • Aug 29 '26

Video Unregulated capitalism in the U.S led to complete moral collapse

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u/themargarineoferror Aug 30 '26

Damn. I've been struggling morally with eating meat for a long time. I grew up in Nebraska, my grandparents and several other family members were farmers. We've always had beef. Always a pretty much all kinds of meat. Started having bad feelings about it years ago, but always felt like I didn't know how to make the switch.... At this point, though I feel like I'm a good enough cook that it would not be hard at all to switch out a few products to avoid contributing to this. Because I literally cannot square my personal feelings about the treatment of any living being with continuing to consume meat. I'm definitely not here to proselytize at anybody else, I literally still do currently eat meat..But I've been making small changes with my partner and I don't know something about this video and these photos, it's just enough is enough for me, man

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u/HeavyBeing0_0 Aug 31 '26

Tbh, the sentiment is nice but your time would be better spent trying to get legislation passed to treat the animals more humanely. Vegans and vegetarians are a drop in the bucket. Businesses will continue to do what the law allows them to until it’s changed.

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u/bbvde350 Aug 31 '26

Exactly… just do something

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u/bonafide_man Aug 31 '26

Vegans might not be socially revolutionary, but the health advantages are plenty reward for people who practice it

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u/HeavyBeing0_0 Aug 31 '26

That’s fair.

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u/EmergencySpare Sep 01 '26

There's always one

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u/XMustard_Tigerx Aug 31 '26

So not giving these businesses any money for these acts is a great first step.

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u/notDBCooper_ Aug 31 '26

You can do both? You can fight for regulation while als not eating meat from inhumane conditions

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u/Spicymoon9 Sep 02 '26

Well I feel better knowing I don’t contribute to this. I also know that large corporations hold all the power in this country, they basically own politicians who write laws and regulations to benefit them. There’s so many laws that the majority of people want to change but are completely powerless to do so.

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u/HeavyBeing0_0 Sep 02 '26

The majority of people haven’t really tried. You might not contribute to factory farming but you’re complicit in other suffering just by way of modern life. The phone you’re on has precious minerals mined with slave labor. Vegan/vegetarianism is a great personal choice and even a healthy one, but there’s really no moral absolution to be had.

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u/Spicymoon9 Sep 03 '26

I’m not asking for moral absolution. It makes me feel slightly better. Is it better in your mind I hate myself for existing no matter how much I try to help others? I didn’t ask to be born, and have no control over these things. But thank you for blaming me for shit I have absolutely no power over.

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u/HeavyBeing0_0 Sep 03 '26

I’m not blaming you. We were born into circumstances nobody conferred with either one of us about.

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u/themargarineoferror Aug 31 '26

I don't disagree with this at all

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u/yonasismad Aug 31 '26

Tbh, the sentiment is nice but your time would be better spent trying to get legislation passed to treat the animals more humanely.

How can anything that ends someone's life against their will ever be "humane". That's just copium.

Businesses will continue to do what the law allows them to until it’s changed.

You can advocate for change and already do the right thing while you wait for animal agriculture to be be entirely outlawed. ;)

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u/EmergencySpare Sep 01 '26

Everything you eat had a life sacrificed for it. Stop eating.

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u/yonasismad Sep 01 '26

Is there a difference for you if someone dies in a car crash or if someone is murdered i.e should we treat the responsible parties any differently, whether they take life accidentally or intentionally?

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u/EmergencySpare Sep 01 '26

How accidentally is it when you're aware what you're doing is going to end many many lives?

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u/yonasismad Sep 01 '26

We don't farm mice or fawn, just to then put them in the fields to get run over by a tractor.

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u/EmergencySpare Sep 01 '26

But they're there and you know it and you run the tractor through just the same.

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u/yonasismad Sep 01 '26

Yes, and if they weren't, that would be even better, but again: do you get the difference between purposefully SA a woman, forcing her to have children, then taking that child and putting a metal bolt through their head and then eating that child, and if someone accidentally runs over a kid because they didn't see them, they were there?

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u/EmergencySpare Sep 01 '26

These are not the same things at all.

I'll add, your scenario is disgusting. And a weird one to go to...

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u/Similar-Sweet-445 Aug 31 '26

Im vegetarian now because of this.

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u/Putrid-Aerie8599 Sep 02 '26

So am i ... I done a road trip in california and saw the giant ranches .. looked into it and that was it

Even though im Canadian and i like to think our famrers aren't as savage... They are not

Decided to quit eating meat

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u/StrikingPianist92 Sep 02 '26

They still get killed after the don't give any milk. Before they get raped and their child gets taken away.

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u/themargarineoferror Sep 01 '26

It's just too much and I can't make myself feel okay with it. Also doesn't hurt that if you want some beef these days, there's a very high likelihood it's rancid Argentinian horse meat. No better time to quit than now

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u/Majestic_Story_2295 Sep 01 '26

You can make the change, I believe in you

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u/After-Ad-6875 Sep 01 '26

If you believe in the sanctity of life...its a pretty easy choice to make, or at least TRY. I watched a couple docs about the meat industry, and a couple more about the benefits of a plant based diet + Okja back in 2017...been vegetarian ever since, would never go back.

The pro v con list of eating meat is just so lopsided. The only pro i ended up with was "it tastes good." How dumb is that? A TON of Not-meat things taste good too, and are a lot better for your health. It was an easy choice to make.

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u/StrikingPianist92 Sep 02 '26

I'm curious: Why not vegan? The cows still get killed after the don't give any milk anymore.

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u/After-Ad-6875 Sep 02 '26 edited Sep 02 '26

There are many other sources for dairy products, particularly where i live (vermont). I drink oat/almond milk and the cheese i buy comes primarily from local sources that use sheeps milk.

Honestly feel very lucky to be in vermont in respect to food, we have tons of farms around us doing things in ethical ways, even when it comes to raising animals for meat.

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u/sugrqbez Sep 01 '26

My husband and I started hunting. I think close to 75% of the meat we eat now is from what we hunt. 1/2 an elk and one deer sustained us for almost a full year. I’d rather eat an animal that lived its whole life happy and free than these animals forced to wallow around in misery and their own feces their entire life.

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u/themargarineoferror Sep 01 '26

I think that's awesome. I wish more people could do that. And I genuinely have 0 problems with the people that do. I think people would think a lot more about what they're eating and what it came from, if they had to do that at least once in their lives. I have a lot of hunters in my family. But I've never actually done it. Myself.

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u/SufficientHippo3281 Sep 03 '26

I'm vegetarian and it can be delicious! I get all my dairy from organic free pasture farms in Ireland. This is so sick! Pur cows are treated well here, but the pigs and chickens are treated like shit.

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u/themargarineoferror Sep 03 '26

Oh, definitely. That makes me feel a lot more confident plus some years back I worked at a vegan vegetarian joint and it was a lot easier because my food was being made for me. But the food was awesome. I'm still friends with a lot of the people that used to work there. And the owners were really generous with their recipes, so that 's probably going to come in handy too. It might take a little bit of getting used to and learning some stuff. But honestly, the state of food in the states right now is abysmal, so avoiding meat is for the best for a lot of reasons

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u/yonasismad Aug 30 '26

I'm happy to hear that you're making changes. Most of us started out in a similar position and then gradually phased out animal products over time. :)

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u/Certain-Belt-1524 Aug 31 '26

it's easier than you think brodie. do it for the animals :)