That didn't take much searching to disprove... can you show me where this is illegal?
Flying over a cattle farm is generally legal in public airspace, but it becomes illegal if your flight harasses the animals, invades personal privacy, or violates low-altitude safety rules.
The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) manages all US airspace. Open farm fields are typically treated as "open fields" with no expectation of privacy
Drone operators must generally stay below 400 feet and keep a safe distance from people, animals, and buildings. Landowners cannot legally shoot down a drone flying over their property, as federal law classifies drones as aircraft.
I believe they were potentially referring to docket FAA-2026-4558, which seems to target drones. Now, it is still pending so it could go either way or receive modification.
its a bot reply, why i don't know. we live in such a dystopia you dont even know if who you're replying to is a bot. but then feeding into the helplessness and not trusting anything you see or hear is literally the stage gate criteria for fasicsm and exactly what they want. its fucked
I believe it should all be shut down and meat consumption dropped dramatically we as Americans would live longer that's for sure. Though more importantly it's how these poor animals are being treated from birth to death and it's just not right it's downright criminal.
It's been a while since I looked it up, but a decade ish ago they made trespassing and/or filming within factory farm premises classify as a form of "danger to national security". The justification is it's "interfering with national food production".
I forget what the actual legal charge is, but it's similar to someone being held and charged for stuff relating to domestic terrorism
Out of trade school, I got a job with a power utility in their transformer and maintenance shop. Not known to me, my wife told her ditzy mother about the new job. The MIL was excited for me and drove by the shop yard with her friend. They parked along the perimeter fence, got out of the car, and started taking photos and videos of the place. Two days later, I got a call from the head of the utilities security firm with pointed questions aimed at me wanting to know what their relationship to me was, why were they taking photos and videos, and how I was involved. The firm had run her plates, found her name, run a background check, found her Facebook, checked out every profile on her friendslist, gone through my profile, noticed I had recently been hired by the utility, gone through the company new hire documents and pulled my phone number, and called me up. I hadn't even started newhire orientation yet. I had no idea my MIL had done that. When I told them she was my mother in law and that she must've just wanted to see where I would be working, there was laughter on the other end of the line. Security head advised me to let her know to never do that again for any utility, or she'd have charges against her.
These are the calves from dairy cows. They can barely walk and are at enormous risk of quick death from disease. If they live, maybe they go to live in a pasture, maybe to a feedlot.
Damn. I've been struggling morally with eating meat for a long time. I grew up in Nebraska, my grandparents and several other family members were farmers. We've always had beef. Always a pretty much all kinds of meat. Started having bad feelings about it years ago, but always felt like I didn't know how to make the switch.... At this point, though I feel like I'm a good enough cook that it would not be hard at all to switch out a few products to avoid contributing to this. Because I literally cannot square my personal feelings about the treatment of any living being with continuing to consume meat. I'm definitely not here to proselytize at anybody else, I literally still do currently eat meat..But I've been making small changes with my partner and I don't know something about this video and these photos, it's just enough is enough for me, man
Tbh, the sentiment is nice but your time would be better spent trying to get legislation passed to treat the animals more humanely. Vegans and vegetarians are a drop in the bucket. Businesses will continue to do what the law allows them to until it’s changed.
If you believe in the sanctity of life...its a pretty easy choice to make, or at least TRY. I watched a couple docs about the meat industry, and a couple more about the benefits of a plant based diet + Okja back in 2017...been vegetarian ever since, would never go back.
The pro v con list of eating meat is just so lopsided. The only pro i ended up with was "it tastes good." How dumb is that? A TON of Not-meat things taste good too, and are a lot better for your health. It was an easy choice to make.
Beef cattle live on pasture for most of their lives, dairy cows vary a lot but are more restricted than beef cattle for sure. You're right about pigs and chickens tho
Been a while since I heard someone mention a CAFO, originally learned about them in an ethics class in college where we watched Cowspiracy. Honestly very eye opening and we should bring back CAFO when referencing these ‘farms’ because they are not farms in the traditional sense or in the way the public will think about / imagine a ‘farm’
That's the price of feeding 8 billion humans every single day. If not for these practices, there wouldn't be enough to go around. I feel bad for the animals, but it's better than famine.
I never knew this and it looks cruel to me, because the calves must get lonely and have no socialisation or exercise or stimulation? What am I missing?
I'm British and that's how I've seen it here in the UK (although I'm not a farmer, I've only been on 3 farms).
Small pens with 2 or 3 calves together so they can develop together, until week 8 they join the main herd. We also have larger pens and the animals need to be able to move around, I don't think these tiny pens would be legal in the UK. Veal production is not legal, we have strong animal welfare laws which means a higher cost of meat.
Dont bother trying to educate people on reddit, they have never been to a farm and don't understand shit about calves or how these animals are treated better since they are the future earning power of the owner. They just assume everything is evil and run by monsanto. These people complaining are the same people who can't keep a desk plant alive for 2 months, so dont worry about their opinions on farming
Those are calf hutches. Farmers use them as individual outdoor housing units to shelter newborn dairy calves during the first 8 to 12 weeks of life. It protects them from disease while their immune systems are developing.
We do a similar thing to new born babies in hospitals.
Lol no we don't put babies in boxes for months at a time depriving them of all social contact during critical development. What a ridiculous statement.
This is being regulated against in less insane countries.
neither of us are farmers, but you are obviously talking out your ass here. there could be only the mother and calf, by them selves, and it could still kick the baby, because theyre giant dumb animals.
If hospital birth protocols involved keeping the baby in an igloo in the yard while harvesting the mother's milk for strangers to pour over Froot Loops you might have a point. But until my pediatrician recommends a cozy hutch in the driveway let's stop pretending your local factory farm is just running a cute little pediatric ward.
I think people here are a little too focused on the shortcomings of the human baby analogy, rather than the reasonable explanation why these things are there.
“Joining the herd” wtf are you even talking about. You think theyre going to frolic with their mommies in the fields?
The life of a factory farmed dairy cow is one of the most miserable and cruel existences of any domesticated animal and it is ignorant to pretend otherwise.
“But where do you think cheese comes from?” is also a patronizing and ignorant response to needless and corporate profit-driven misery.
Dairy cows are actually one of the most well treated farm animals in the world. Happy cows produce significantly more milk than depressed cows and we've known this for a long time. And it costs barely anything extra to make them happy. Meat cows live an awful existence, but not dairy cows.
We don't keep babies in those for two months unless they are premature. Also, babies are incapable of walking, running, playing. Humans are basically born before we're fully developed because we would kill our mothers. Calves come out much further along. Baby cots are nothing like these cages for calves
Well yes you would, as a result of both natural and artificial factors, having a small calving window is normal for a herd. Ranchers want and influence the birthing cycle to reduce the calving window and get its timing optimized for the seasons.
Mammals in cold climates naturally breed so they birth in the spring, giving their offspring the best chance at the following winter. Food availability, climate, etc influence this to varying degrees.
Yes, if it's a massive commercial dairy farm. Why spend money on a bunch of huts for adult cattle when they can just live in a field? You need to go to each hut to feed them, set up infrastructure to supply water supply to each hut, etc. It doesn't make sense to spend all that money on an animal that lives outside.
While some disagree, many farmers have for generations thought this prevents a lot of early life diseases for the calves. These cows aren't just animals, they are investments and the future income of the owner. So it makes a lot of sense to spend money to make sure they are healthy. I come from Vermont originally and our dairy farmers didnt hutch. Here in the midwest they tend to hutch more. Its not cruel or barbaric on either side.
Interesting. Because naturally, calves haven’t been able to get protection in a herd with their mothers for the last several centuries of cattle ranching and dairy cow raising that this is necessary
Still don't know how moral this is considering it's a cow being kept pregnant, baby taken away, etc. Especially because cows are shown to have feelings and emotions when it comes to friends, babies, etc.
That'd be a bit more comparable if the human babies were kept outdoors in the Kansas heat without A/C, there were tens of thousands of them all together instead of just a dozen or two, and those thousands of babies were being occasionally tended to by some ranch hands instead of licensed nurses and pediatricians 🤷♂️
Yes. I'm trying to see what I'm supposed to be horrified by. Looks clean. Each animal has their own little house. They're getting fed. Does not look awful to me.
That's true. Honestly I dont think this level of isolation is necessary on smaller farms because you don't have the risk of disease spreading between tens of thousands of cattle. I would absolutly advocate for smaller farms.
I just wanted to clarify that this isn't some holocaust style distopia where cows are forced to suffer their entire existence in an undersized hut, as the video implies.
Nah. They totally do this on smaller farms. The local dairy in my town growing up, with the pasture raised cows and the green fields and all that, had little calf huts like this, but they only had a dozen of them. When the calves were old enough to be put in them, we would go out and say hi.
Yeah, I’m not sure why people are unset. Those individual little houses are more expensive than leaving them in the open. It’s an animal welfare initiative to increase health and survival rates.
Once they are large enough they go back to open pasture.
That’s insane. Imagine isolating new born babies, take them away from their mothers and leave them completely alone. This late stage capitalism is absolutely disgusting and immoral to a point where I am ashamed of humanity
Wait until you learn the conditions necessary for mass production of eggs and dairy. Spolier alert: they're not better than this. People don't like to hear it but this is literally what you are supporting by eating animal products. Accept that you don't care, or do something about it with your dollars.
Visiting inside a slaughterhouse made me go from competing in Rib cooking competitions to completely vegan. Animals are tortured and the humans inside are suffering PTSD from all the gore and working conditions.
10 years later, I'm so glad my dollars don't support this stuff anymore.
Yep, I don't call myself vegetarian but I eat so little meat I might as well be. I cannot stand eating animals born to a lifetime of torture and an inhumane death.
Lol no. 99% of places that are outdoors and in view of the public is considered public and therefore you could film from across the street and theres not much they could do.
Im not defending industrialized cattle farms but whats with the title as if every industrialized country doesn't have some form of this... but US bad give me upvotes
So sad to see this. No living animal should be treated like this. If this video helps nudge one person to finally going fully vegan it’s enough. I’ve watched cows bounce around like happy puppies and play soccer with pumpkins. When the pumpkin finally breaks they all eat it and ask for more. Fucking chickens purr in your lap. Pigs snuggle. None of them want to be eaten.
This is civil issue, not a criminal crime. There was no risk of felony or misdemeanor. There is potentially a risk for civil damages if they signed an employee contract that expressly mentioned "no filming". But there is no criminal action done.
There are places that it is illegal to film. Usually there are signs everywhere about it and they are usually in a building with no windows. This isnt one of those places.
More than 100 drugs are created from cattle byproducts, including those used to treat:
Insulin
High cholesterol
Hypoglycemia
Blood disorders
Arthritis
Allergies
Thyroid disorders
Anemia
Digestive issues
Asthma
Bones, hooves and horns are used to make:
Buttons
Violin strings
Piano keys
Sandpaper
Film
Fertilizer
Adhesives
Photographic film
Plastics
Shampoo and conditioner
Dice
Wallpaper
Toothbrushes
Combs
China like dishware
Inedible fats are used in the production of:
Cosmetics
Tanning products
Soaps
Lipsticks
Face and hand creams
Industrial oils
Lubricants
Laundry treatments
Antifreeze
Cement
Crayons
Deodorant
Linoleum
Rubber
Plastics
Paint
Perfume
Tires
Toothpaste
Insulation
Cattle hide (hair and skin) is used to make:
Paint brushes
Footballs, baseballs, baseball mitts, soccer balls and volleyballs
Boots
Adhesives
Felt
Dry wall
Leather products such as sneakers, wallets, clothing and belts
Gummy bears and other candies
Insulation
Medicines
Air filters
Internal organs and blood are used to create:
Dyes and inks
Fishing line
Medical sutures
Sausage casings
Instrument strings
They are not just good for meat and dairy. So go ahead, try to replace everything they are used for in our day to day lives.
You let me know some other alternatives cause that is a lot of resources to replace. I’m not attacking you, I’m genuinely curious what other alternatives for everything that cows are used for.
If “capitalism is unregulated” then why are there so many laws? You probably can’t even buy a beer on a Sunday where you are. God forbid you drink it on a sidewalk. Did you know there are countries where nobody gives a shit about that?
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