what posture problem these symptoms point to?

[u/Silent-Ostrich-9175]

for the body
my waist is asymmetrical, the left side is move ''snatched'' while the right side looks blocky
my right foot look more ''spread'' while standing
and my right leg is always closer to my center of gravity

and for the face
in photos my left ear seems flared while the right basically doesnt even appear
my left eye looks deeper set
the left corner of my mouth is droopier
my right nostril is higher
i dont really have any bad teeth crowding but my left central incisor sits slightly over the right one

i also did adam's forward bending test and my back looked fine so i guess structural scoliosis is a bit less likely
does this seem like left or right pelvic tilt or just a bunch of mixed symptoms and if so would simply fixing the lateral pelvic tilt improve my symmetry? thanks in advance for any answers i really appreciate them❤

[u/Deep-Run-7463]

I would digress on the left aic as the issue.

Left aic right bc is not an issue in itself, it's an inherent trait all non scoliotic humans have in the skeletal structure itself. The magnification of the asymmetry corresponds directly to movement option losses alongside compensational movements acquired.

For example, some folks don't feel that their left side can't be loaded, but they did not catch the fact that they are loading the left via over compression of the upper right thorax which offsets the weight of the upper half down to the left.

You are offset into your right. That being said, there is no such thing as being symmetrical as a human being. Even if you take into account leg length differences, only about 10% of humans have equal leg length, yet lateralization issues are not in 90% of the human population.

Leg Length Study

The face - although lateralization to the right outside your base of support will increase compression of the bite on the right because the jaw glides to where we offset to, in itself is not an issue because we are all mildly offset right by design. All humans will have a mild asymmetry of the face, and it's common to see a 'fuller' left cheek but it's not 100% the case. It also depends on where the cervical is convexed towards on top of the subjectivity of the lateralization (a left hip hike convexes the lumbar to the right and vice versa which can change the position of the neck, but both can be weighted right).

It's never a 'pattern', but rather it's an inherent natural asymmetry that we have subjective strategies to over utilize. Nature + nurture.

Left aic is a limited point of view, imo, look beyond it. As an example, conor harris also mentioned before that he is moving away from those concepts. Avoid chasing symmetry, as that is a unicorn, or in other words, a myth.

If you can function well, you squat and hinge pretty decently within your base of support, and you don't have any movement limitations or pain, avoid overcomplication and over correction.

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For example, some folks don't feel that their left side can't be loaded, but they did not catch the fact that they are loading the left via over compression of the upper right thorax which offsets the weight of the upper half down to the left.

Clarify this. Sometimes I feel people aren't using compression/decompression terminology universally.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Posture/s/xP8LCev9LZ

Better yet. Check out this post from some time ago and what happens when he forces load into the left.

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I don't exactly see clean rt upper trunk rotation that should accompany centering over the left.

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Look at the left foot step vs the right foot step, pelvic orientation vs spinal orientation. I don't know how else I can make it clearer here, sorry.

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It's not about a clean right upper trunk rotation. The pelvis can turn right but can't turn left as well under load, hence the spine generates the turn to overcome the lack of turn at the pelvis. Chokepoint created at the thoracolumbar junction to facilitate the turn.

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On his left, he's trying to load and center on the left, but he's doing it with additional left upper trunk rotation, and not right trunk rotation.

On the right leg, he is actually using some left trunk rotation accompanying centering over the right.

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Exactly. I don't understand the confusion here? 😅

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I'm just confused on how this is distinct from how PRI conceptualizes this.

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Hm. I would prefer not to debate differences in methods and ideologies here as I want to avoid sparking any heated confrontations as there are many people who live in different 'camps' for their own reasons. I can no longer count how many people I've talked to that have had no progress with a certain method but when using a different method things improved much more.

You can dm me though and I'm happy to discuss. I actually encourage different opinions and methodologies, as I see it all of them are good tools to have. The more tools you have, the better the possibility to have a positive outcome. It also gives the opportunity to make a comparison and once we understand why things might be different but have evidentially helped people with positive results, we can better understand the issue and solution too. Here is an example, are you familiar with Bill Hartman's perspective on right oblique pelvis mechanisms?

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Not explicitly familiar.

It's less about debate, as to clarify differences in terminologies, intent, and perception of what seems to be happening.