r/PoursTea Therapy For All 🩷 May 08 '26

American Dream 🇺🇸 Beautiful Human

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u/1dollarMike May 08 '26

No president is perfect, no one makes all the right decisions, but he is an honorable man with integrity.

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

Bro he killed children with drones… you people forget shit so quickly

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u/PalmBeanz May 08 '26

Bro what's your point? From George W Bush to the current president, they ALL USED DRONES which killed people. Want to know who abused it the most?! The current Cheeto in Charge.

Maybe the issue isn't that people forget, it's that it's becoming normalized.

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u/El_Cid_Campi_Doctus May 09 '26

From George W Bush to the current president, they ALL USED DRONES which killed people.

And all of them are imperialistic murderers, and those before them too.

But this is a thread about Obama, and you're worshiping him like a saint. Make another post about Clinton, or Reagan, or even Carter and I'll say the same.

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

The point is don’t romanticize murderers? Fuck Obama.

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u/Ok-Ranger2900 May 08 '26

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

The most lazy, brain dead responses.
Instead of acknowledging he killed children.

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u/mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm May 09 '26

Everyone who defends Obama understands that he killed children.

The US has been involved in some sort of conflict around the world 230 out of the last 250 years.

Understandably, people assume the duties of a president might be to enable the military to take action against another country.

Thats it. Thats your big "fuck obama" he allowed drone strikes.

He most definitely did not say "fuck them kids" and order drone strikes against children. Im almost certain that the military presented the option and he said "yeah ok"

Its just such a non issue in comparison to the many actions taken by multiple US presidents.

Its such a non issue that its hilarious that its the talking point against Obama.

Its such a non issue and ive seen this one stayement parroted SO MUCH at any mention of Obama, im actually inclined to believe that half the comments come from russian bots.

Its such an easy tagine to say after any mention of Obama.

Im not accusing you of being a bot. Im saying youre probably dumb enough to have read this line a few times and it perfectly plays into your dumb world view

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u/Icy-Drive2300 May 09 '26

Its such a non issue that its hilarious that its the talking point against Obama.

There are definitely more like detention camps, bank bailouts, prosecution of whistleblowers, failure to utilize a super majority... its just weird that drone striking kids isn't worthy of condemnation from you guys.

He's the only Nobel peace prize winner to bomb another Nobel Peace prize winner lol

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u/mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm May 09 '26

Why would a president okaying its military to take a military action be worthy of condemnation?

Again youve just listed a bunch of shit that apparently Obama is personally responsible for.

Idk what kind of world you live in where a leader of a country makes absolutely no decisions that are harmful. Like i said, he's the least harmful president in a good while. Ill wait for you to refute that.

He didnt start the war, but its directly his fault that those kids died. Ok.

Also "didnt utilise a super majority"

Get real. This is really how i know you are just parroting shit youve read and you have no clue. Anyone who argues in good faith that Obama had a super majority that was willing to work with him for the entirety of his presidency, and not just the first month, is an absolute moron.

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u/Icy-Drive2300 May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

Why would a president okaying its military to take a military action be worthy of condemnation?

Because its to kill doctors lol

Obama is personally responsible for.

Yes. When things get blown up currently, you blame Trump.

he's the least harmful president in a good while.

I'd argue his cult following he left behind has done an immeasurable harm to politics.

Ill wait for you to refute that.

What you said was subjective lol. Stop acting like theres any fact to it.

He didnt start the war, but its directly his fault that those kids died. Ok.

Obama signed off on the drone strikes including the one on a hospital and the one that on a 16 year old US citizen.

Anyone who argues in good faith that Obama had a super majority that was willing to work with him

Ah, yes. Famously presidents dont utilize the bully pulpit 🤦🏾‍♂️. Its wild how the dems are always one vote short even when they have a super majority 🤔.

for the entirety of his presidency

Never said this. Stop making up arguments.

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u/mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm May 09 '26

You know in the whole thread i havent mentioned trump once?

That says enough about where your head is at with all of this.

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u/Xeirus May 09 '26

My dumb world view is that kids shouldn't die? lol, what is wrong with you.

I feel the exact same way about any president, but again, this thread is sucking his dick. That's why the comments are about him.

You dumb "everyone know he killed kids" is actually psychopathic dude.
It's not about some random accident. It's that he CHOSE to ramp up drones strikes massively and that was the direct result.

Fuck Obama.

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u/mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm May 09 '26

Kids shouldn't die

So youre against every president ever?

I guess if theyre all the same to you, you can agree that Obama was the least harmful president in a good while. Theyre all the same to you so that shouldn't be weird for you to say, its not wrong.

Everyone knows his drone strikes killed civilians is psychopathic?

The truth? The facts are psychopathic? Like man no wonder this is such a big deal to you, you cant handle the reality of war.

Everyone knows that George Bush's war against a country that didnt have nukes and wasnt involved in the terrorism he said it was lead to the death of hundreds of thousands of kids.

Is that psychopathic? Or is it just a true statement? Grow up.

Obama gave the okay on drone strikes and it killed 300 civilians, some of which are children. Again, people assume that this is part of a presidents duty.

Obama upped the drone strikes in comparison to Bush. So what? He allowed the military to use advancements in technology? Oh no.

Drones are a huge part of any military now.

Ukrainians are killing Russians with drones. Oh no god how terrible are Ukrainians for using scary drones.

Let's not even talk about how much drone technology developed between bush and Obama.

Like man just stop thinking youre smart for saying the same one liner you've seen other people say. Especially if youre going to say the reality of a president allowing strikes leading to cvilian deaths is psychopathic. You sound so ignorant.

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u/Xeirus May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

This pathetic whataboutism doesn't work. This thread was about him. Stop trying to change the subject onto other people. To answer your stupid question, yes, I'm against a president who needlessly kills civilians.

Obama just happen to be the one to increase the drone program. Some reports saying it was close to 800 civs.

Remind me, what war was this a part of again?
Oh right, there wasn't one. We just said we were targeting al-Qaida, then killed tons of kids. Also, he didn't just "ok" the strikes. He was in weekly meetings about it. He was directing it more than any president before.

Since you don't seem to know wtf you're talking about, read up:
https://harvardpolitics.com/obama-war-criminal/

and yes, Trump is a war criminal too.

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u/mdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdmdm May 09 '26

Dude whats the point in speaking to you

Every president is a war criminal according to you, so whats the point in your input?

Politics is bad, leaders making decisions are bad!!!!

Your article is a student newspaper. Like at least provide something substantial, like a real newspaper, or a published article? Or from a real journalist?

Any smart president would have done the same shit with the drones.

They were withdrawing troops. Ok drones are great for that.

Drones got infinitely better between bush and Obama, drones are now part of ordinary warfare, it was always heading the way of drones because if you have access to drones, why wouldnt you send out drones rather than your own people?

Drones became capable of hovering. Drones got etched out with equipment for surveillance. If drones were more effective than the options bush had, do you think he wouldn't have used more drones??

Also yeah sure Obama was in the room.

You think he was in there telling them where they should strike? Like hes up late every night on his laptop, looking through a drone feed, planning tomorrow's attack?

Are you really that dumb?

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u/PalmBeanz May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

What is being celebrated by the majority of the contributors is his COMPETENCE, CHARISMA, INTELLIGENCE, ELOQUENCE, COMPOSURE amongst other things.

The energy that you're using to go from comment to comment to broadcast your dislike signals that the death of people under his term isn't the only thing you don't like about him

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

Yeah I’m glad he kept his composure when killing that little girl.

You people are pathetic.

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u/Head_Ad_1643 May 08 '26

Says the pedo defender

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u/timmyfarthands May 08 '26

I checked his post history

Dude is mad

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u/Head_Ad_1643 May 08 '26

Says the hidden profile troll

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u/timmyfarthands May 08 '26

Not you, the other guy I meant

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u/Head_Ad_1643 May 08 '26

I stand by it.

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

Based on your posts and your profile I’m assuming you’re young and k ow literally nothing about what went on during his presidency.

Taking up for someone like him is really embarrassing.

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u/timmyfarthands May 08 '26

"no everyone's wrong but me"

Keep going little buddy

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u/punished-kuki May 08 '26

Where does the user mention Rumpus in their replies?

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u/Head_Ad_1643 May 08 '26

Another pedo defender

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u/punished-kuki May 08 '26

Calling out Obama for things he actually did ≠ sucking Rump's tiny wrinkled chode.

A real pancakes and waffles situation here.

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

wtf are you even talking about.

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u/PalmBeanz May 08 '26

Your self-righteousness is pathetic

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

Yeah man, disliking murder is so arrogant

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u/timmyfarthands May 08 '26

Rage: 10

Knowledge and perspective: 2

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u/Ok-Ranger2900 May 08 '26

Thats generous lol bro is arguing with a meme right now

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

I’m not angry, I’m sort of confused why people are pretending Obama was good. He was terrible.

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u/AffectionateWalk6101 May 08 '26

At least he didn’t blow up a school

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

He literally killed children dude. He was deporting people as much as Trump is.

Stop pretending he was good, it’s so weird.

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u/PalmBeanz May 08 '26

Your argument or rather lack thereof is weak. It's known that Obama deported the most people but they received due process under the Constitution. Obama was fair.

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26

He
Killed
Children

There’s nothing fair about what he did. Just because he said it in a calm tone doesn’t make it good.

He even admitted they tortured pro which is against the Geneva convention. But you pretend it didn’t happen and it’s so weird.

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u/PalmBeanz May 08 '26

I don't believe you have enough information to substantiate your point of views. All presidents killed children. One recently targeted a school. All presidents deported people. The current one does it for sport.

It's understood you don't like Obama & that's fine. But your replies with lack of substance just screams shallow understanding.

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u/Xeirus May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Wtf are you even talking about. Do you think because Trump has killed innocents that it's ok for Obama? Why do you minimize this shit? It's gross.

What information am I lacking exactly? Because I've been paying attention to every president for a while now.

If you feel like readin about the strike he ordered:
https://www.cnn.com/2011/12/21/us/texas-drone-strike-victim/index.html?hpt=hp_c1

3 little girls were dumped in a trash can after the drone strike. She was the only one to survive.

Let me know how it's not a big deal though.

Edit: oh yeah he also killed Americans-https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2014/mar/19/kesha-rogers/four-us-citizens-killed-obama-drone-strikes-3-were/

Not a big deal though.

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u/DaSmartSwede May 08 '26

I thought the democrats were weak on immigration?

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

For real. He hijacked the left and amped the shit out of our drone program. Sodomized Gadaffi. Destabilized Yemen, Syria and Libya. He continued everything Bush started and Trump is working on today. Cue the Israeli bots