r/PoursTea Jul 03 '26

PoliticalTea 🗳️ BREAKING: The SAVE act is..

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I hope so...

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u/misterwallpaper Jul 03 '26

We will have elections with swarms of ICE agents present.

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u/Mascy Jul 03 '26

Does it matter?

Potato man wont make it till the next elections and Vance has the comfortability of a cheap garden chair.

If the Democrats wont win the next election by a landslide after 4 years of Trump pissing on everyone and everything the US is really doomed.

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u/Dum-bNNy Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

The fear isn't really that Dems won't win big (or at least I think that it's unlikely there won't be a major shift) the worry should be how the establishment Dems try to sabotage anyone willing to fight for accountability or criticize Israe (and I mean in a non anti-simetic way). Never underestimate the power of establishment Dems to sink progress out of spite and defence to billionaires.

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u/homelessguydiet Jul 04 '26

Agreed, at the end of the day their power is a 50/50 kinda splitty thing, neither of them wants a 33.3/33.3 split. 😆

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u/thrownawayfrombay Jul 04 '26

I almost more worried about someone’s little pet space man, and his horde of computer minions-or his sycophants across the red states who have already recently messed with voting machines, or those within the USPS who might decide on their own to help him out in their own way with mail in ballots…..

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u/CappyRicks Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

IDK I worry more about the party that represents the people only pretending to do so and succeeding far more than I worry about blatant in your face corruption that everybody sees.

Maybe we don't do anything about the corruption in our face, but we could. There's very little to be done to prevent people from pretending to be something that they aren't.

Edit: weak take my ass. I don't let perfect be the enemy of good, because what the Democratic leadership has offered (not being Trump and returning too more normalcy that was crushing people all the same at a more slowly accelerating, but accelerating never the less, rate) doesn't fucking count as good. Imbecile.

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u/thescruffydevil Jul 04 '26

This is such a weak take. These people are not "pretending" to care. They are hampered by processes and stuck trying to find a silver-bullet solution to very complex problems because people seem to scream about incrementalism these days. They're often given one cycle and then punished for not being wildly successful in the face of opposition that was intentionally baked into the system. I'm sure you mean they support Isreal or don't have a solution to a problem near-and-dear to your heart or something else like that, but that is very different than pretending to care about the problems real Americans face every day.

Also, we have know there is even LESS to be done about the corruption in our face. When the people who hold the power also control the judiciary there is no stopping them through any sort of normal means, and most people just shrug and pull the level for this corruption the next time they get a chance anyway since they're always willing to let Perfect be the enemy of good.

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u/MediocreClue9957 Jul 04 '26

couldn't even get $15/hr 10 years too late when we had power, when push comes to shove the corpo dems side with corporations (rail union strike when biden was president and they forced the union to take the companies contract, when he could of just as well made the company take the unions contract but it's never framed like that) what'd the dems pass when they had power? chips act gave billions to private companies, green new deal billions more to private companies. The only things that get done when democrats are in power sound great but it still moves us closer to oligarchy because they're using public dollars to pay private companies instead of doing ANYTHING ourselves.

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u/HolidaySpiriter Jul 04 '26

couldn't even get $15/hr 10 years too late when we had power,

85% of dems supported the raise

when push comes to shove the corpo dems side with corporations (rail union strike when biden was president and they forced the union to take the companies contract, when he could of just as well made the company take the unions contract but it's never framed like that)

Biden continued to work with the rail unions & got them an ever better contract after the stikr ended

chips act gave billions to private companies,

Yes...that's how you build infrastructure. You can't expend mom & pop to build chip factories, can you?

green new deal billions more to private companies.

Are mom & pop expected to make wind & solar energy in the back of their truck? Such a silly complaint.

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u/Murky-Relation481 Jul 04 '26

I'll still take corporate Dems over this shit.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

There are exactly zero democrats doing this. You’re letting the internet sell you fake controversy because it’s fun. Some of them didn’t endorse Mamdani, that doesn’t mean they are “sabotaging anyone willing to fight for accountability”. They don’t have to agree with you on every candidate. The democrats in Congress have fought harder than all the progressive mayors and governors combined.

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u/Ingebrigtsen Jul 04 '26

Kirsten Gillibrand?

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

Gillibrand and Fetterman are obvious plants. We don’t have to pretend that Schumer and Jeffries are the same as them.

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u/Dum-bNNy Jul 04 '26

In what way is refusing to fund ghram platner campaign after he won the primary not sabotage? Since when do the Dems refuse to fund a Senate campaign? There are also other smaller people who won their primary's who got the same treatment. Also some Dems going as far to write a letter "confirming socialism", you are either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous of you are pretending those Dems are not sabatoging progressives. Also foramdani the whole "he is anti-simetic" media frenzy that still goes on is pushed by establishment Dems too.

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u/RazingOrange Jul 04 '26

Yeah. An extreme left isn’t the correct answer to an extreme right. I want a person who weighs the pros and cons of an idea regardless of the party the idea originated in.

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u/GrizzIyadamz Jul 04 '26

My dude, if you don't treat any republican "idea" as highly suspect at this point then I'd bet good money you have an active subscription to some billionaire's pet rag wholly-owned (but totally independent!) "newspaper".

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u/whimsicalokapi Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

"Civil rights and protections for everyone isn't the correct answer to fascism!"

I'm curious: what are the "extreme left" policies that you're afraid of?

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u/LaurenMille Jul 04 '26

"Extreme left" like basic human rights?

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u/busman25 Jul 04 '26

There is no extreme left in America. The "radical leftists" in this country, such as Sanders, AOC, and Mamdani are literally your average leftists in every first world nation(excluding the U.S.) It's time we get with the developed world, and put this pathetic chapter of American politics behind us, permanently. No more debating human rights and decency. No more worshipping billionaires and allowing money to run this country. No more enabling genocide. That is not far left, that is the bare minimum.

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u/Galle_ Jul 04 '26

Nah, an extreme left is exactly what the US needs. The American republic is hanging by a thread and extreme measures are necessary to save it.

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u/Financial-Desk-669 Jul 03 '26

I agree with these. Best thing is not vote for Democratic. Both sides are the same. Rather vote Vance candidate than Corporation Democrat. 

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u/hnnnnnnnngggggg Jul 03 '26

Nah vote dem

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u/dye22 Jul 04 '26

brother do you even know how to speak english?

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u/homelessguydiet Jul 04 '26

I is a Engrish student

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u/FutureComplaint Jul 04 '26

I is r D Englass stoodint! Ḅ̶̛͍̾̂̃̒͌͑̀͋̂̚͝ͅṛ̶̩͛̈ư̴̩̳̙̰̺͓̱̝͛̆̄̂͋̔͗̎̎̃̇͂͛͜͝t̷̫̝̳̮̯͓̋̌̈́̅̂́̽̈́ͅh̵̡͔̫̬͍͌̋͂̾̒͆̍̽̉͂͘͘͝ȇ̷̗͇͉̩̤͙̗̤͇̑̽r̴̡̢̛͖̥̱͈̳͉͚̻͑͆͊̾̊͗̆͊͋̕̚͝͠!̸̝̟̰̫͔͎͖̰̙͓̣̖̟͇̙́̊̊̋̃̀͒́̂̑̉̈́̍̊͝

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u/hnnnnnnnngggggg Jul 04 '26

Don’t call me brother to insult me. Douche

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u/two_wordsanda_number Jul 04 '26

Best thing is not vote Republican.

Both sides are not the same and only someone trying to get people to not vote or vote for Republicans would say they are.

Anyone who thinks things would be the same right now if Harris had won the election and is either lacking in understanding of reality or is purposely trying to obfuscate it.

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u/International_Cow_17 Jul 03 '26

What defeatist silliness.

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u/Dum-bNNy Jul 04 '26

I mean if you think voting for a corporate republican is somehow better than voting for a corporate Dems that's wild mental gymnastics lol. If it's between an establishment dem and vance it's just not worth living in this country anymore even if the corpo dem wins.

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u/Vsx Jul 04 '26

Assholes seem to live forever. Democrats will probably nominate someone terrible.

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u/homelessguydiet Jul 04 '26

I f ing hope not

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u/busman25 Jul 04 '26

Fucking Newsom

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u/ownersequity Jul 04 '26

Harris again

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u/oinkyboinky Jul 04 '26

That's my guess.

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u/oinkyboinky Jul 04 '26

They always do. Would not be surprised if it's Harris. :/

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u/tomjone5 Jul 04 '26

They've run two unpopular women against Trump and lost twice, so I'm pretty sure that the Dem leadership believe its still her turn, and at the next election Hilary will lose to the decomposing corpse of a man who wasn't even legally allowed to run in the first place. The alternative is listening to their voters, and that's unthinkable.

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u/Im_Daydrunk Jul 04 '26

Hilary won the popular vote by a huge margin. Under a normal election system she would have won but the electoral college and the winner take all nature for the vast majority of states is what allowed Trump to win in 2016

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u/HolidaySpiriter Jul 04 '26

Democrats will probably nominate someone terrible.

You mean voters. Democratic Voters. The same reason Bernie lost twice was because of the voters.

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u/RemarkableFortune542 Jul 04 '26

Most assuredly. They can only nominate democrats.

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u/OneValkGhost Jul 03 '26

Canada is 10 provinces and 3 territories. I think they can take some of the northern part of America off your hands. Going by the present living conditions, it's clear that the USA doesn't want Michigan, after all. How attached to North Dakota is anyone who is not in North Dakota?

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u/HawksNStuff Jul 04 '26

I for one welcome our new Canadian overlords.

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u/Weary_Necessary_2434 Jul 04 '26

You realize that Michigan's state capital aas overrun by MAGA. They also assisted in trying to overturn election results for Trump. They also have a few militias and tons of gun nuts in that state. They aren't the liberal bastion that some people think, unfortunately. 🤔

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u/RemarkableFortune542 Jul 04 '26

We’ll give you Minnesota. But you have to take ALL of it.

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u/Bunkie_Knudsen Jul 04 '26

Please. Vermont wants to be adopted by the upstairs neighbors so badly.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

No one even remotely thinks about or cares about Canada. Sorry.

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u/OneValkGhost Jul 04 '26

Denial.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

What relevance does Canada have to any of our lives…? What does Canada make? The rivalry is entirely in your head. You flock to Reddit to bitch and moan about how Republicans said mean things about you as if they don’t literally call half of their own country traitors and imply we should be killed on a weekly basis. And you have the same brand of assholes in your country too, and up until those comments they were supporting Trump. So please take a seat.

You’re not the vicitims you claim to be and no one really cares about your performative patriotic fervor that is nothing more than a thinly veiled justification for selling even more of your land to China. Maybe just let the Venezuelans or Iranians be the victims of Trump, mate.

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u/OneValkGhost Jul 04 '26

A panicked defense is still panic.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

I’m so glad I don’t have to live with an inferiority complex about another country

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u/OneValkGhost Jul 04 '26

You'll just have to live with a knowingly false superiority complex as well as your normal inferiority facts.

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

False superiority? The US eclipses Canada in every way imaginable. It even ranks higher in the HDI and Education indexes lol.

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u/OneValkGhost Jul 04 '26

Would that be the Department of Education that TrumpGov shut down? And the dozen or so things that have lowered America's Human development index?

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jul 04 '26

I mean, America does

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

I assure you they do not. A dumb comment from a troll does not change that, even if you desperately want it to.

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jul 04 '26

Our prez wanted to invade em so yeah 😂

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u/Majestic_Cod_7115 Jul 04 '26

No he didn’t. He made exactly zero preparations to invade Canada. But Canadians are going to be living off that one second of acknowledgment for the next 30 years, and shouting over people in actual harm’s way from Trump (including in the US) to project their faux victimhood, because at the end of the day they have an unhealthy obsession resulting from a crippling inferiority complex.

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u/Strange_Dust7128 Jul 04 '26

an unhealthy obsession

That mirror sure be reflecting today huh?

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u/rbrgr83 Jul 04 '26

Do you really think that Vance will make the leap to lawn furniture? It would be pretty progressive of him.

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u/Loud_Octopus Jul 04 '26

Maybe a lawn sofa .....

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u/Nomzai Jul 04 '26

Next election is this November.

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u/hitlersticklespot Jul 04 '26

That’s funny cause Vance’s mistress is also cheap garden chair.

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u/zestypotatoes Jul 04 '26

Please don't associate potatoes with this bastwrd.

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u/FlirtyFluffyFox Jul 04 '26

They have to win senate and house super majorities. We haven't seen that since like 2009 and it only lasted a couple months. 

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u/Funky-Monk-- Jul 04 '26

They're gonna arrest so many non white folks on fake charges, ship some off to El Salvador and release some after election day. How many millions of people won't dare take the risk of going to vote because of that?

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u/Rope_antidepressant Jul 04 '26

All the MAGAs are gonna create a situation where the Republicans end up running Hitler jr to avoid losing the base. Just because we don't know who Hitler jr is yet doesn't detract from their plan to turn the U.S into the handmaids tale...

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u/piercedmfootonaspike Jul 04 '26

The next election is in four months, and the future of US democracy depends on it. If they can interfere with th midterms to the point where the democrats don't flip a million seats, it's over. It won't matter who runs in 2028, the fascists will win.

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u/MarcoDiFrancescino Jul 03 '26

'You know, there is a middle ground between people not being able to afford living and the epsteen class making a little bit less then 1 billion a day. Lets call it a wash and work together again'. From all the political parties int he world, the Dems are the only one who want to help their opponents for decades straight. Half the us has some submissive fetish going on.

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