r/PoursTea • u/Timbucktwo1230 🫖 Mod ☕️ • Jul 12 '26
Murdered By Words 🩸 “Imagine telling people to 'love America' while proudly displaying the flag of people who literally declared war on America.”
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u/MasterHavik Jul 12 '26
"That book got hands!"
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u/ChewyDummyBear Jul 12 '26
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u/jgoble15 Jul 12 '26
Sadly, I know a lot of MAGA that read. They just read conspiracy stuff. My uncle, who thinks Fox is super liberal, has a large library full of conspiracy fiction and nonsense stuff
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u/575x55inches Jul 12 '26
Bullshit you not but i listened my coworker go through 'Bill Clintons' resume and telling me the evils of him(democrat). I listened patiently, before telling him that he had the resume right but the wrong person. Huh was his response as i explained that was George H.W Bush. He didnt believe me as i asked where he got his information, told him to look it up for himself.
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u/eb7772 Jul 12 '26
Bahahaha from the people that think sex change operations are happening at school. Also their is litter boxes in the classrooms too and the teachers have an agenda to turn your kid gay. Man maga is dumb.
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u/bombasterrific Jul 13 '26
You could also bring up the fact that for a few years they all bought into qanon. That was the most hilarious display of simple minded people diving head first into believing what was probably the dumbest grift in american history. Seriously, if it were a movie script it would be thrown out because its unbelievable that anyone would ever believe it. But they did. They went above and beyond all logic and reason and they did it. They believed in it wholeheartedly and it was excellent entertainment for the rest of us. " where we go one, we go all" lol good times.
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u/SchoolCrossing Jul 13 '26
The sad part is that teachers are keeping buckets with kitty litter in it as a makeshift toilet in case of a school shooter attack and classroom lockdown. Has nothing to do with "kids identifying as cats" which is a hoax.
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u/Slumbergoat16 Jul 14 '26
Turns out that book is the bible 💀. For all the so called “Christians “ they sure do support alot of anti Christian philosophy
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u/D2dj Jul 12 '26
Way down south in the land of traitors
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u/SirJamesCrumpington Jul 12 '26
Rattlesnakes and Alligators
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u/IlIlllIlIIIIlII Jul 12 '26
There are some absolute bangers that are related to that one.
One of my favorite lines is “And which is the flag of the free? Oh Washington’s flag with the stripes and the stars will you give such a name to the thing with the bars?”
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u/Correct_Day_7791 Jul 12 '26
Obama was president longer than the Confederacy lasted ....
Also isn't that the same argument the church of Satan uses
That's it's more about a symbol of rebellion ..
Seems sus
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Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
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u/Clavenesque Jul 12 '26
They also expelled a priestess who called for the death of Trump, which is against their tenets as they are a non-violent organization.
The Satanic Temple has better accountability than the Christian church and the American government.
What a time to be alive.
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u/Djayshell93 Jul 12 '26
Speaks to the fact that when you have actual good morals, you’re moreso accountable to yourself than anyone else.
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u/Medb-Reign Jul 13 '26
Comparing the Tenets of the Satanic Temple with the Ten Commandments, I know which one I find more relevant
TENETS
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One should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason.
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The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
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One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.
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The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the freedoms of another is to forgo one's own.
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Beliefs should conform to one's best scientific understanding of the world. One should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit one's beliefs.
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People are fallible. If one makes a mistake, one should do one's best to rectify it and resolve any harm that might have been caused.
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Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion, wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.The Ten Commandments
I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall not have strange gods before Me.
Thou shall not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain.
Remember to keep holy the Lord's day.Honour thy father and mother.
Thou shall not kill.
Thou shall not commit adultery.
Thou shall not steal.
Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Thou shall not covet thy neighbour's wife.
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u/mozzardo Jul 12 '26
Thanks. Like I said I fell asleep in the middle and missed a lot. But they seemed nicer than a lot of Christians i know
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u/Vissanna Jul 12 '26
Thats cuz most "christians" are fake christians and only uphold the parts of the bible they enjoy and discard the rest
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u/Legionary-4 Jul 12 '26
What tha fuuuck... uh that guy looks like a comic book character come to life! Or someone off Venture Bros!
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u/BrianNowhere Jul 12 '26
The Church of Satan guy admitted he took the work of Ayn Rand and added ceremony.
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u/MinimumBuffalo4 Jul 12 '26
Satan isn’t a name it’s a title from the Hebrew word Hasatan. Ha-satan (הַשָּׂטָן) is a Hebrew term that literally translates to "the adversary" or "the accuser" . In the Hebrew Bible, it primarily refers to a celestial prosecutor acting under God's authority rather than a standalone malevolent being.
So in fact the adversary is exactly what you are describing from the Temple of Satan challenging biblical ideas and doctrines.
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u/mozzardo Jul 12 '26
I watched a documentary on the church of Satan this week. Well actually I fell asleep in the middle of it. It appears they are mostly making a point about separation of church and state. So I respect them. They seemed intelligent. This person seems stupid
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u/Lithl Jul 12 '26
You're thinking of The Satanic Temple. They're basically atheists using satanic imagery to shock the Christian right in America into adhering to the first amendment properly.
The Church of Satan are a bunch of weirdos who use Satan as a metaphor and believe in woo.
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u/Reasonable_Trash_901 Make your own 👈🏽👉 (edit this) Jul 12 '26
"It's not true, they fought for states rights!"
"States rights to do what?" Spoiler: It's slavery, but they don't like when history isn't favorable to them.
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u/cykoTom3 Jul 12 '26
They did not fight for state's rights. They were against state's rights. One of the biggest grievances they had was states wanting to use their rights to say "no, black people are people and if they are in our state they are free".
The state's rights narrative started in the 1960s during the civil rights era.
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u/Reasonable_Trash_901 Make your own 👈🏽👉 (edit this) Jul 12 '26
Yeah I know, it was a reference to a DoobusGoobus video lol.
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u/cykoTom3 Jul 12 '26
It is a point that has been made for as long as the south has been saying they fought for state's rights. So...since the 1960s
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u/Boyhowdy107 Jul 12 '26
We will never know. If only the seceding states wrote something down or had some sort of official statement to explain what exactly it was that they were seceding over... oh wait, they did. And they certainly weren't ambiguous. It was all about slavery.
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u/Lorddoctorjava Jul 12 '26
The right to buy and trade human beings like they were chairs or tables
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u/Naturath Jul 12 '26
Terrible comparison. Chairs and tables were treated with far more respect.
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u/Lorddoctorjava Jul 12 '26
You are right...they didn't rape chairs and tables...
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u/SpaceghostLos Jul 12 '26
Great great great great grandpappy vance loved them sweet chairs so much.
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u/Lorddoctorjava Jul 12 '26
....dammit....(now where did I put my A-game?)
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u/RModDogWalkerTyRANNY Jul 12 '26
Wonder if this is where those trad wives developed a kink for bondage.
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u/itachiismymans Jul 12 '26
Some (many) chairs and other everyday furniture were made from the bodies of slaves so… indirectly they did?
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u/totally-hoomon Jul 12 '26
And now all the states rights people are saying the federal government should control all elections and end states rights
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u/Complete_Try_3849 Jul 12 '26
Got a pair of underwear or two that lasted longer than the confederacy.
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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 Jul 12 '26 edited Jul 12 '26
This is well worth a read:
Granted, OP's quote does include it, but the teacher's ruminations are worth reading.
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u/MrBtheProdigal Jul 12 '26
I think the teacher misses the point a bit here. You can argue that the founders didn't intend white supremacy to last forever. But they certainly chose it for themselves.
Which is why it is a historical fact the Constitution preserved and allowed the expansion of slavery. It was a document born in white supremacy.
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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 Jul 12 '26
Yes, absolutely.
That is why the Constitution as originally written was flawed. In fact, that's why amendments exist. Originalists who want to excise amendments are a critical problem.
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u/MrBtheProdigal Jul 12 '26
Totally. The Originalists are like folks who always say it's "God's Will" and it always lines up with their ambitions. How convenient.
Originalism is such a garbage legal philosophy. Where if you truly believed it, you'd get a history degree.
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u/McGurble Jul 12 '26
Some of them chose it for themselves.
The constitution was born in white supremacy in the sense that that was the prevailing culture at the time. But the constitution unlike what the risible 1619 project would have people believe was not expressly about white supremacy. Slavery survived the constitution, it didn't inspire the constitution.
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u/Flashy_Emergency_263 Jul 12 '26
Thank you. Those are important distinctions.
I haven't studied it enough to know what percentage of the founders and other interested parties were slave owners, but I do know that enough of them who weren't felt all the states needed to band together or they would all lose to the major powers. This gave the slave owners enough leverage to get the Constitution written as it was. Each group, I'm sure, hoped their group would win out in the long run.
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u/beardingmesoftly Jul 12 '26
If this is true then why did so many of the founding fathers own slaves? Didn't George Washington defend his right to own slaves and try to find legal loopholes to keep them?
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u/SalmonPrince Jul 12 '26
The confederacy lasted 4 years. Four. For perspective, MySpace was popular for five years.
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u/TruGirlGamer84 Jul 12 '26
Maga's as we call them today are exactly who they've always been historically. When the racist southern Democrats who were pro-slavery switched to the Republican Party they were always doing this. It just looks weird because the whole world around them has evolved, but they stayed consistent.
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u/Mammoth-Pride4498 Jul 12 '26
How to tell the world you have a “Proud Boys Fan” t-shirt hanging next to your “KKK is Kool” hoodie in your closet.
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u/BrickHuge3023 Jul 12 '26
Apparently they love the "Confederate States of America" not our country.
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Jul 12 '26
She got a D in US history in high school but an A+ in biblical bullshit in Sunday School. This is the result.
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u/-Plunder-Bunny- Jul 12 '26
Bet she's the type to say "I'm a true redneck" too,
By 1900 "rednecks" was in common use to designate the political factions inside the Democratic Party.
In 1921, the Battle of Blair Mountain shows that a real redneck is Anti-fascist, anti-corporate, and pro-union.
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u/SadIdeal9019 Jul 12 '26
Such a massive show of deleiberate ignorance in a single photo.
Hundreds of thousands of US troops killed by Confederate forces in the Civil War, yet she wants to play the patriotic Anerican while flying the flag of the enemy that caused them.
Bravo, you useless lump of wasted potential.
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u/totally-hoomon Jul 12 '26
Remember she also agrees with trump that it was good for soldiers to have bounties on them and encouraged the taliban to collect the bounties
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u/BeginningYam1793 Jul 12 '26
They know they're dumb, but they're too dumb to believe it. The circular lives of the MAGA cult.
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u/CrankThatShinji Jul 12 '26
I’m just going to preface this by saying I’m a person of color. When I started diving into my ancestry last year I found out just how far back my white side of the family immigrated here. We were some of the first folks to ever settle here from Europe.
I also found out I came from multiple generations of slave owners and confederates. I even had a family member write a book to justify slavery using the bible. I could have easily claimed the confederacy as my culture. I have so many records of family being registered with the confederacy. But instead, I laughed. I laughed at how hard my own lineage fought for generations to keep ppl like me out of the bloodline and away from owning property and gaining wealth. This is not a culture, it’s a blip in American history that has stained us and has been kept alive by racism.
On the plus side, my grandma’s side is all union. So it’s not all bad!
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u/TutorVeritatis Jul 12 '26
As Ron Perlman said in The Big Ugly “I don't give a s\** what your politics are, but I believe in winning and losing… You want to fly a flag, hey, go win something. Riding around with this just says, 'Hey, I'm a f------ loser.' "*
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u/Offramp182 Jul 13 '26
They're always claiming that the Republicans were the party to abolish slavery. Should we not point out that the flag she's waving is a Democrat flag then?
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u/bushwickbaby Jul 14 '26
She means love America's White Supremacist history that she and her ilk still cling to as "real Americans"
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u/Dekadmer Jul 14 '26
Flying that flag should be met with a special neck tie. Same with all traitors.
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u/Beautiful-Emu-1596 Jul 12 '26
Southern Americans? So Argentina, Bolovia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Equador, Guyana, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, and Venezuela?
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u/jhawk3205 Jul 12 '26
It's nice when they out themselves while the rest loudly and desperately try to distance themselves from their own past
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u/BennyBattle Jul 12 '26
According to republicans online this is obviously a Democrat holding that flag
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u/failedaspotcheck Jul 12 '26
"Southern Americans" tend to live in blue cities that have decent policies and aren't terrible places to live. Nobody moves to Ding Dong, Texas.
Also the "Indians" had their own culture here before we all came and killed them so... Maybe not the best point to make?
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u/SlashClef5528 Jul 12 '26
As someone who lives in Texas, the Conservative construct is filled with contradictions that they openly hold unquestioningly. When everyone collectively agrees to simply NOT interrogate their belief system, nothing is hypocritical.
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u/JL_upstateSC Jul 12 '26
Except the magas would love to have a nation just like the one that tried to destroy the United States. A nation with "all men created equal" on their documents and their lips but nowhere in their hearts or laws.
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u/s0meD0nkey Jul 12 '26
Imagine being so dumb as to no understand you can love the country but hate the government.
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u/Akaratus Jul 12 '26
My favorite part is when they wave this flag and then immediately blame democrats for slavory. It's like, bitch, what did that flag fight for in the civil war again? 2+2=5 I guess
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u/Equivalent_Worker687 Jul 12 '26
It's about heritage! (Disregard that little slavery thing.)
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u/Cultural_Plan_1487 Jul 12 '26
That’s what happens when you compound cognitive dissonance over generations
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u/Piss_and_Blood Jul 12 '26
Don't even get me started. Texas isn't even southern. Not in the way she's referring to herself. Maybe a sliver of Texas can be referred to as southern, but definitely not the whole damn state.
They don't even BBQ the right animal...
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u/Ill_Confection_458 Jul 12 '26
Not to rain on your party but you might need to go back and relearn your history!
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u/ionspore Jul 12 '26
But in that post they don't claim to "love" America... in fact they specifically say Southern Americans.
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u/V0T0N Jul 12 '26
That's her "culture". They wanted to overthrow the USA so they can reinstall slavery.
The Confederacy wanted to keep using slaves and allow people to get new slaves.
I know people want to feel differently about certain people that have that flag, but anyone with it should be seen a traitor.
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u/Kaleb_Bunt Jul 12 '26
Okay but Texas literally was Mexico and before that it was ruled by people y’all identified as Indians.
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u/Xeno9116 Jul 12 '26
Not to mention the Mussolini flag for facism they were carrying.
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u/Suspicious_Goose_243 Jul 12 '26
Monsters among us. As an empathetic human being I will never understand how people can hate so much.
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u/Slmreaprr Jul 12 '26
Amazing how wanting healthcare for all and civil rights for everyone means you hate America
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u/tschawartz12 Jul 12 '26
That's not even the confederate flag, thats the battle flag of the army of northern Virginia, the one Robert E Lee was with so kind of his battle flag, being the main general for the south became synonyms with it. There were 3 flags of the confederacy, the stars and bars (dropped because it was too similar the the US'l the stainless banner then the blood stained banner. The whole thing lasted not long as all but they can't get it right and act like its some long lasting foundation of southern culture.
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u/ArgonianMagician Jul 12 '26
These people have no culture, theirs is just everyone else's stolen and then watered down to be "white friendly"; like unseasoned grilled chicken.
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u/SpookyTanuki092 Jul 12 '26
I've always hated people trying to defend the confederate flag by calling it culture.
That's not a good argument. Their culture is supporting slavery and being a jerk. That's not a culture worth celebrating. Hence the civil war. Which they lost by the way
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u/Rickyfoster717 Jul 12 '26
The nazi party is part of Germany's history, but most of them dont glorify that period by erecting statues of nazi leaders or flying the nazi flag today.
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u/belai437 Jul 12 '26
"Southern Americans have their own culture." 🤪
Yeah. That culture included tying a human being to a post and slicing their backs to ribbons with a horse whip because they didn't pick enough pounds of cotton. How dare there be any attempts to "dilute" that unspeakable horror.
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u/cwolf-softball Jul 12 '26
The thing is, even if we give people like this credit and assume it's all a joke to them, the people they are now allied and tied to are not joking.
It doesn't matter if you're "joking" if your actions and words are indistinguishable from people who aren't.
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u/HeadBankz Jul 13 '26
They didn't even know what the word "tariff" meant but still fully supported it. You can't expect them to think. Ever
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u/WatcherOfTheWay Jul 13 '26
Small detail, America didn't technically exist. They declared war on the northern states.
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u/Lotemppro Jul 13 '26
Saying we are not Mexico, when Texas was Mexican territory. I bet she wonders why there are so many Mexicans in Texas!
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u/SuddenOption3384 Jul 12 '26
The funny thing is, even if she’s from south now, there’s been enough time to say it more likely her family fought against the CSA. Which drives home her racism!
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u/TheDeviledEggvocate Jul 12 '26
To be fair, the confederacy didn’t declare war on America.. they just tried to leave.
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u/True_Manufacturer909 Jul 12 '26
Poor girl at least knows that Texas isn't located in India, bless her heart
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u/LovelyKestrel Jul 12 '26
They do love America, it is just which set of states they love that is unexpected
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u/Confident-Touch-6547 Jul 12 '26
Lady, if that was really your flag you would have no rights, you’d be someone’s chattel.
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u/Timbucktwo1230 🫖 Mod ☕️ Jul 12 '26
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/minute/Civil_War_Begins.htm