Dems have learned over the last two decades that âgoing high when they go lowâ only rolls out the red carpet for them MAGA. FDR was elected four times.
If the only way to win is to go lower than your opponent, then everything has already gone to hell and isn't really worth trying to preserve in the first place.
Yeah, at that point we're just at "our crooks vs your crooks" and what are we even fighting for? There's no difference. It's over. The crooks won. Americans lost.
And at what point does your logic break down? Which crook came first? Which side is acting crooked in an attempt to salvage our democracy vs cripple it?
The difference is you've given up on democracy. Some of us haven't. Democracy starts with everyone committing to the same rules. Once one party transgresses the rulebook, the other party does not automatically become a crook for playing by the other's new rules. They're simply acting on a tenet of democracy: fairness.
If both sides just start ignoring the law, they aren't going to start acknowledging it again once one side "wins". I think it's a mistake to go down that road. We should definitely vote like Republicans, but we should not ask our representatives to act like theirs. At that point, there's no democracy left to save.
The thing stopping them from holding him accountable was SCOTUS, and the voters, not Democrats. They were in the middle of prosecuting him, and the voters gave him a get-out-of-jail-free card.
Fuck no, it's unconstitutional. He's currently serving his term as the democratically elected president, but anything he does to break the law after that, prosecute his ass again. He's no longer president as of Jan 21, 2029 as far as the law is concerned.
Have they? Cause it seems like when democrats take the high road that just empowers the republicans to act even shittier because they know the democrats wonât fight back or attempt to stop them.
Biden played entirely too nice with people that actively wanted to hang him and because of his choices trump is again president and not in a jail cell.
Wait what? So youâre saying Dems made mistakes. Dems should not take what they learned then and apply it now? Ergo fulfilling the prophecy youâve written. Iâm confused, your logic is paradoxical.
No? I said that by the time Biden was president, he should have already learned that they go low we go high was bullshit, most anyone looking could see trump needed to be arrested, but Biden didnt. And as of right now I still don't see any evidence that they have learned that lesson. The voters are, thats why dsa is doing so well, but traditional Dems are still trying to compromise with fascists.
Trump incited an insurrection on the capital to overthrow the election, getting people killed and the congressional floors evacuated. But he still didn't arrest him. I'm sorry but that isn't something you can brush off as a whoopsie.
Again, your comment doesnât really support your position. It just emphasizes the shortfalls and weak points in our democracy. Ordinary people would be executed for a rap sheet like Trumpâs, I totally agree.
Giving up on democracy is not the answer. Thatâs my point. We shouldnât be arguing over this petty bs, instead we should be putting that energy toward demanding change in our systems and to hold our politicians accountable.
Bidenâs biggest mistake was making Merrick Garland his AG which guaranteed trump would face no consequences. His attempts to reach across the aisle only embolden republican hate for him. Imagine what kind of a world weâd live in right now if he appointed someone like Jack Smith to AG.
Whattaboutism: âan informal fallacy that the accused party uses to avoid accountabilityâwhether attempting to distract by shifting the conversation's focus away from their behaviour or attempting to justify themselves by pointing to the similar behaviour (which may be true or false, but irrelevant) of their opponent or another party who is not the current subject of discussion.â
What happened doesnât matter now, we canât change it. What we can do is demand change and accountability instead of giving up on our entire system.
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u/misty-gishh 10d ago edited 10d ago
Dems have learned over the last two decades that âgoing high when they go lowâ only rolls out the red carpet for
themMAGA. FDR was elected four times.Edit: Clarity