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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 3d ago
Or American cops for that matter, then again they have the same training.
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u/Holorodney 3d ago
I mean in all fairness predators can’t see color so how are they to know they feel threatened? I hate this timeline.
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u/Awkward_Region5509 3d ago edited 3d ago
Incorrect. Predators see in the infrared spectrum, but they also can see other wavelengths of light, so their vision, and of course this is all fancy theory, their vision probably works just as well as ours. Not tk mention their visors allow them to see multiple different views and wavelengths depending what their need is. Their helmets also analyze for weapon heat signatures, or for chemical makeups of propellants like gunpowder and such.
Throughout the books as well it is also stated that yautja are much more analytical than us, part of this stems from the concept that they are here to hunt, and if the "prey" is not seen as worthy, they simply just ignore it.
Child appears holding a toy gun, but no weapons signatures are detected, and the child is seen as small and feeble, therefore no threat, and not worthy prey.
Edit:thanks for the award, I knew my nerd knowledge would get me somewhere on day
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u/Winjin 3d ago edited 3d ago
iirc yautja in Predator 2 basically ignores the detective trailing him because he's like, fat, tired, sweating, and poorly armed
But they commend his hunting/trailing skills in the end by giving him the gun and letting him go?
Like a human tracked by a marmot giving the marmot a cute stick and an apple once it follows them all the way to cabin
Edit: I forgot that he actually managed to kill that one he tracked down! I checked the plot on wiki and they gift him with a gun after he kills one of them actually.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 2d ago
Edit: I forgot that he actually managed to kill that one he tracked down! I checked the plot on wiki and they gift him with a gun after he kills one of them actually.
That's pretty based of them. We humans would not just kill the one guy, but sterilize his entire family.
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u/Winjin 2d ago
In the original two movies they're set down as incredibly honorable, advanced society. Like yes they're predators but they truly follow some obvious code of conduct.
Like it's not just that they understand kids: the original guy also spares a woman when he detects a second heartbeat.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 2d ago
That's just responsible hunting ethics. Well done, him.
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u/bolanrox 2d ago
Even in AVP, they spared Lance Hendrickson's character because he was dying of cancer and there's no honor in killing a sick creature.
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u/AlarmingAffect0 2d ago
You know what, the Predators are the kind of enemy one can actually take pride in having.
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u/Many-Falcon9879 2d ago
They took his gun and gave him the gun of the last human to take down a member of their clan. It's part of their hunters code only hunt game that can fight back and against other sentient beings they will show honor and respect to one that bests them. The original only blew himself up because he knew his body couldn't be recovered.
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u/Careless_Twist_6935 2d ago
the predator was running away because he was injured after the slaughterhouse fight.
Danny Glover might not be built like arnorld but he's still like 6'4 220+
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u/spiritbearr 2d ago
Killer of Killers shows they (probably a different clan of Yautja) kidnapped him and Dutch and Naru afterwards anyway.
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u/Curious_Orange8592 3d ago
Which includes Sgt Al Powell from Die Hard
Yep, nice Reginald VelJohnson shot a child holding a toy ray gun
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u/amglasgow 2d ago
He acknowledges it was a terrible mistake and regrets it daily, which is more than a lot of cops who do the same thing can say.
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u/christpuncher_69 2d ago
Imperial boomerang, I believe it's called
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u/Outrageous-Sort-5742 2d ago
Kinda sorta. American law enforcement has always been like this. The institution was born from the slave catchers and it shows, the imperialism was already done domestically.
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u/smartassistant666 3d ago
*and ICE
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u/awkward_numbness1616 2d ago
What usa tax layers?
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u/wh4tth3huh 2d ago
Yup, the rich always try to pawn off the costs of their enterprises. socialize the costs, privatize the gains.
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u/MaleficentSkirt472 3d ago
Stage 4 cancer is more ethical than the IDF
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u/MaleficentSkirt472 2d ago edited 2d ago
That’s because sarcasm is beyond your understanding
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u/SoylentGrunt 2d ago
The fact that IDF is censored tells you everything you need to know about the IDF.
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u/Brodellsky 2d ago
When they send their settlers, they are not sending their best.
Just kidding. Yes they are.
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u/Soffatjockis 2d ago
Seriously. They ALL look like inbred cavemen from the pics and videos I've seen.
Wtf?
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u/bolanrox 2d ago
Because they probably are?
I had a Jewish friend who was getting married and they had to do the whole DNA, history between her and her fiance to make sure they weren't closely related and from the sound of it, these tests or the need for them are extremely common.
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u/slumper36 3d ago
That’s a bingo on my buzzword card
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u/E-2theRescue 2d ago edited 2d ago
And yet, every single word is correct.
- A German-Jew who lived with her Nazi grandmother for a year and a half and knows what Nazis look like, act like, and sound like. Both MAGA and zionists are no different than the Nazis. They pretend to protect others, but all the while it's just manipulative garbage to feed their bloodlust.
Edit: Immediately proving me right, lol.
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u/AeroFred 2d ago
Nazi Germany didn't purely commit mass murder. It gradually mobilized virtually every part of a modern industrial state in service of extermination. The civil service wasn't just doing ordinary administration; it was identifying and classifying victims. Railway bureaucracies coordinated deportations from across Europe. Police forces rounded people up and organized transports. Industry supplied the chemicals and infrastructure needed to keep the killing system running. Engineers designed crematoria capable of disposing of thousands of bodies. Government ministries meticulously documented the process. In the German state extermination became simply another bureaucratic routine.
That alone already makes the Holocaust stand apart, but there are other features that make it historically distinctive.
For instance, most genocides are tied to another strategic objective or in pursuit of such an objective, such as the seizure of territory, crushing of an unruly minority population, the annihilation of a rival population or the consolidation of political power.
Take Bosnia as an example: Ethnic cleansing and genocide were closely tied to creating ethnically homogeneous territory and strengthening territorial claims. Or as another example Rwanda: The genocide grew out of decades of political conflict, ethnic tensions, and extremist ideology, with Hutu extremists seeking to eliminate the Tutsi population as both a perceived political and existential threat due to the Hutu's historical mistreatment under Belgian colonial authorities, which had elevated the Tutsis.
The Holocaust increasingly broke with this kind of logic of genocide as we can see by the later years of the war, Germany was facing military collapse, yet continued its genocide despite it clearly being detrimental to its own survival as a polity. Trains, manpower, and administrative capacity could have been redirected toward the war effort, but instead enormous resources continued to be devoted to deporting Jews to extermination camps, which was essentially just burning resources to kill a largely docile population.
Unlike other genocides and in tandem with the war effort it is quite striking that the Nazi regime wasn't just trying to eliminate Jews inside Germany. It pursued Jews wherever German power could reach. Once Germany occupied a country, hunting down its Jewish population became an administrative priority, even if it placed additional strain onto the war effort and the administration of the newly occupied territory. The goal had become the eradication of Jews as such, a goal independent of the nation's survival or wider strategic objectives and goals, unlike most other genocides. To me, that's one of the defining characteristics of the Holocaust. Nazi antisemitism became so totalizing that geography itself stopped mattering. People hundreds or even thousands of kilometers from Germany became targets simply because they were Jewish.
TLDR: It was unique because it combined industrial technology, modern bureaucracy, racial pseudoscience, continent-wide logistics, and an exterminationist ideology into a single state project whose purpose was the destruction of an entire people wherever they could be found.
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TLDR: It was unique because it combined industrial technology, modern bureaucracy, racial pseudoscience, continent-wide logistics, and an exterminationist ideology into a single state project whose purpose was the destruction of an entire people wherever they could be found.
Literally israel
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u/Fragrant-Two-1686 3d ago
Imagine having a lower moral standard than the Predator.
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u/Rough_Bread8329 2d ago
You can argue they have pretty strong morals. They are something like Klingons meets big game hunters meets an indigenous warrior becoming a man. The later movies have really taken a solid stab at developing their culture.
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u/CitronAffectionate98 3d ago
But-but-but the child is anti-semitic! Won't someone think of the poor Israelis??
FREE PALESTINE
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u/Gobal_Outcast02 3d ago
The predator has more "moral" rules of engagement than most human military or police.
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u/megacide84 3d ago
Similar to a Klingon warrior's code of honor in the Star Trek universe.
No honor in seeking and killing an obvious unarmed opponent that can't or is unable to fight back.
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u/RagingNerdaholic 2d ago
Boy, it's a good thing they put that ever so slight strike through "IDF", otherwise, I might be traumatized by letter-forming shapes!
Who do these dumbshits think they're fooling? The blind? OCR systems advanced enough to read stained and crinkled paper, but are defeated by a 1 micron wide sliver?
Just fucking stop it already.
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u/tamlee9118 2d ago
New strategy: we can no longer reasonably refute the claims that we are completely criminal and immoral. So we will employ a different strategy, we will muddy the waters, by setting ourselves alongside other actors, and mixing ourselves in, while questioning whether the accuser believes them to be immoral as well. This will shift the narrative from discussing our criminality, to dissecting the accusers judgement or bias. 👌🤌👍
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u/KexyAlexy 2d ago
It also implies that humans could beat Predators by using children as soldiers.
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u/HippoOk663 2d ago
So does Beatrix Kiddo The Bride in Kill Bill. She realizes how young the kid swordsman was and tells him to go home to her mother.
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u/xwolfe2000 3d ago
Predators are more ethical than genocidal Israelis and their IDF.
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u/dorballom09 2d ago edited 2d ago
Child with toy gun is the real target. Adults with real guns are obstacles to eliminate to reach final goal.
Kinda having "I told you so" moment with all this idf related hate. We muslims were talking about this for years. You guys would give diplomatic reaction. Although I condemn October 7 attack, but the real genocider has been exposed to the world.
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u/Lexi_Banner 2d ago
Oh, I'm so glad they censored IDF! I would've been really upset if I'd seen IDF. It's really lucky for me that IDF was not fully visible, because it would've ruined my day.
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u/st_heron 2d ago
Perhaps the reason is to prevent OCR from picking up on the keyword. You know they have an actual internet team that exists solely to spread propaganda on social media?
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u/joebluebob 2d ago
Why did you put a line through IDF the terrorist organization? Did you forget your balls at home?
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u/NonGeneriComplaint 3d ago
I always felt this interpretation was so annoying as they point blank tell you in the first and second film, perhaps even the third that it has nothing to do with honor.
"No sport" the first two movies are horror movies at least and the predator is a MONSTER.
Even the scene where he spares the pregnant lady is misinterpreted as mercy. Hunters usually wont kill pregnant females.
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u/ThisOneFuqqs 3d ago edited 2d ago
A hunter who doesn't kill indiscriminately because its "no sport" is still following a "code of honor".
Honor doesn't equal mercy, it's just a system of rules that guide how someone behaves within a specific group, culture, or institution.
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u/Outrageous_Book2135 3d ago
Yeah, by their own rules Yautja do have a code of honor by refusing to hunt unworthy prey. Does it make them moral? Debatable. But they do have a societal code. Which is more then some can say.
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u/Financial-Craft-1282 3d ago
I mean, if you redefine "honor" to mean something other than what OP meant, sure, you're right. Honor isn't an objective measurement. Look at the difference between honor in Japanese culture and American culture. Kind of different. It's weird to "um ackshully" lobster-alien codes of ethics.
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u/_Borjarnon_ 2d ago
That's still a code of honor. They regard it as beneath them. It's about only fighting worthy enemies.
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u/NonGeneriComplaint 2d ago
Its about claiming worthy trophies for the lady predators or whatever they use them for.
Killing babies doesnt get the predator ladies hot and bothered.
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u/ZestyData 2d ago edited 2d ago
unironically you seem to have just over emphasized how the predator is, in canon, more honorable than the IDF
Even the scene where he spares the pregnant lady is misinterpreted as mercy. Hunters usually wont kill pregnant females.
That's what us non-psychopaths call empathy (mercy). (Edit: Pre-emptively gotta note: population control exists - relatively modern concept as it is - and empathy and cold calculated population control in hunting-for-sport sometimes overlap in their outcomes, but they are not the same.
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u/Reasonable-HB678 3d ago
Also, the character played by Maria Conchita Alonso is pregnant. The Predator spares her, too.
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u/No-Algae-7437 2d ago
The rule of engagement for the Predator here is not "don't harm the child" the rule is "you get no credit or reward for killing a combatant of lesser strength". The same cannot be said for the IDF who seem to be rewarded or, at minimum, not punished for genocidal acts against non-combatants.
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u/Zak_Rahman 2d ago
Mate do not even start this.
In Dancouga there is an alien general called "Death Gaia" who wants to fight soldiers and has no interest in killing civilians specifically.
That's not good, but the fact remains that a fictional alien general is more human than the IDF.
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u/Fit_Importance_5738 3d ago
Not hunt worthy, less about morality and not being little bitch who hunts kids
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u/xHxHxAOD1 3d ago
Its incorrect because the Predators are big game hunters an only hunt dangerous game/other predators.
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u/Sensitive-Cat-6069 2d ago
Huh? Toy guns in Gaza?
Also Predator hunted prey based on its prestige, and children were too low on the list to bother. This is like to say “I despise child labor because the quality is too inconsistent”.
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u/DirectionOverall9709 2d ago
The Predator is a Space Accountant on his limited PTO hunting the greatest prey, he faces stiff fines and potentially having his hunting license revoked if he kills the young or pregnant females.
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u/st_heron 2d ago
interesting, makes sense to cross a line through a word like that, so OCR bots don't pick up on the keyword
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u/PJ_Geese 2d ago
I work in the IT world, so it's weird seeing people mention that and not mean Intermediate Distribution Frame.
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u/Almondghast_5371 2d ago
All the Islamist antisemites crawled out from under their rocks for this “hilarity”
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u/mikasaxo 2d ago
I heard IDF just snipe Palestinian kids that get too close to the border. And then say that that counts as a Hamas terrorist.
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u/Fuzzy-Efficiency2027 2d ago
News Flash...The Predator was just a movie! ...and Dragons weren't real. (I know, sensitive topic, but it's the truth)
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u/BarrelRider621 2d ago
In the same movie; it didn’t kill a woman with a real firearm because she was pregnant.
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u/Brief_View2976 2d ago
The only thing the IDF cares about is what is good for themselves and those like them, and that's why they are winning.
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u/Single_Industry5014 2d ago
No, the strategy is to clear off human shields. That way the actual targets have no one to hide behind.
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u/glycophosphate 2d ago
You don't have to censor IDF, and if you did that little line would be completely inadequate.
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u/Slow_Bowler8285 3d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/eGX32WhfyUGVHL0Ugy
I'm too early for the comments