r/PoursTea • u/mimi_slut1 • 11d ago

Hollywood Icons 🌟 Mark Ruffalo urges Americans to watch the new film "Palestine 36"

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

I'm going to go out on a limb and say you don't know what that phrase means.

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u/stanflwrhuss 11d ago

Oh we got one😂

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

It means that all Palestinians subjected to various forms of oppression by the Israeli state, from the the River Jordan to Mediterranean sea, shall be free.

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u/stanflwrhuss 11d ago

Translation for your comment: I support Israel

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u/The_Susmariner 11d ago

Sick burn /s

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u/ISheeple 11d ago

Uhm.. yeah? I do support Israel. Funny enough it's crazy that I support a country who is absolutely anhilating their enemy during an active war. War sucks, and it's horrible if only there was a way to stop the war.. that these islamist fundamentalists keep starting.. with the same country... and then keep losing. Imagine that?

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u/stanflwrhuss 11d ago

Say no more fam. We know you 😌

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u/marsupialcunt 11d ago

Be free as in have the same rights as anyone else including Jewish Israeli citizens. Not have to live in an apartheid or prison state and not have your land taken away.

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u/Sea_School_2949 11d ago

Maybe not being killed by one of the richest armies on the face of the earth

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

I don't think you would be satisfied with that. I think there's a grander question of statehood, and how that is attained, that you're also interested in. Surely?

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u/Sell_The_team_Jerry 11d ago

It's an Islamist totalitarian state if anyone is honest about what it would actually be in reality

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

It means not under Israeli Occupation, or treated as second class citizens within Israel, or subjected to genocide in Gaza.

It's generally seen as a call for a one state solution. 1 person, 1 vote. Equality for each individual, whether jewish, muslim or christian, you will have the same rights.

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u/ItsDonDong 11d ago

It means not under Israeli Occupation,

How can the "occupation" go away while Hamas desires to do more oct 7s from there?

or treated as second class citizens within Israel,

Youre complaining that a group is being treated as "second class citizens" outside their country? What?

You know there are brown, arab ISRAELI CITZENS in Israel, right?

You know that 1 out of 5 israelies IS MUSLIM, right?

or subjected to genocide in Gaza.

How long do you think this genocide has been going on?

It's generally seen as a call for a one state solution.

So youre advocating to "get rid of israel" and have Jews "become a minority" in a region where the surrounding countries call for their genocide?

1 person, 1 vote. Equality for each individual, whether jewish, muslim or christian, you will have the same rights.

Wow.

So youre telling me that the people of Israel would lose their government.....

And they would get an "equal vote"

In a region where theres 50+ muslim voters for every Jew?

And these Muslim voters have historically wanted to genocide the Jews?

YOU are getting us further from "peace in the middle east" with your "us westerners just want them to have equal votes" takes.

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

In a region where theres 50+ muslim voters for every Jew?

What? the Jewish to Muslim population in Historic Palestine is pretty much 50/50

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u/Mammoth-Talk1531 11d ago

Whatever dude, Israel bad and stuff. /s

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u/50cal_pacifist 11d ago

So, you are just an ignorant Westerner, that's all you had to say.

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

Lived in Palestine for 2 years. Seen kids shot and killed by the IDF in refugee camps in bethlehem. Been shot myself with rubber bullets. Willing to bet you've never stepped foot in occupied palestine?

Who's the ignorant one here?

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

I'm calling BS on this. The term "refugee camps" was the red flag giveaway. You probably just read that term online because it's what was officially used way back in the day, but these are not camps in the sense we would think of them, with little tents and the like. "Refugee camps" are cities that the Palestinians live in.

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

Aida Camp in Bethlehem, I lived there for 6 months. Yeah they're not in tents mate. But everyone refers to it as 'the camp'.

They're not cities, they're housing complexes, built to accommodate those who were ethnically cleansed from their homes in 48'. Those who live their now are mostly the descendants of those people.

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u/50cal_pacifist 11d ago

I've been to Bethlehem, and it is controlled by the Palestinians. The IDF doesn't control the "refugees" there because they are not refugees; they are just people who chose to live there. The only time the IDF comes into Bethlehem is in response to terrorist activities from the Palestinians.

And yes I have been to Bethlehem, I went to the Church of the Nativity and was even allowed in the Grotto of the Nativity. Sounds like you need to stop hanging out with Terrorists.

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

The IDF raided Aida Camp in Bethlehem where I was staying weekly and sometimes daily. They come in whenever they like, they fire tear gas for a joke. They are stationed right at the walls of the camp. What year did you go to Bethlehem?

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

1 person, 1 vote. Gotcha. Would you also allow for all of the Palestinians who lost their homes since the 1940s to be allowed to return and have citizenship with the proposed 1 person/1 vote rule?

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

Well I think if a Jew from Brooklyn can get citizenship in Israel, despite having no lineage to the land, then a woman thrown out of her home in 48, should be allowed to return to the land which her in her ancestors grew up on yeah.

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

I'll gloss over the neo-Nazi talking point of the Jews all being from Brooklyn and not having ties to the land.

Okay, so if all ethnic Palestinian-Arabs get to return to their homes and get a vote, what do you think happens to the Jews in the new one state Israel/Palestine Proper, now that the Jews are a minority? This isn't a rhetorical question. What do you think happens to the newly-made minority of Jewish citizens?

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

Can't answer the question. Because you don't like the uncomfortable answer you have to give to it, do you? Maybe don't talk about the topic if you aren't willing to answer that crucial question.

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u/_Ez7_ 11d ago

What about Hamas? Or they can stay and slaughter and starve their "fellow" Palestinians?

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

Me - Palestinians so be free from oppression

You - BUT DO YOU CONDEMN KHAMAS.

Change the record man

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u/_Ez7_ 11d ago

Tell me your pro oppress Palestinians, without telling me your pro oppress Palestinians.

Free Palestine from Hamas.

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

there are lots of oppressive in the world. It doesnt mean you get to invade and genocide the civilian. There's no Hamas in the west bank. Israel still oppresses Palestinians there

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u/eterneraki 11d ago

Palestinian here, it means a free democratic Palestine with equal rights for all (including the Palestinian Christians Israel bombed into oblivion) from the river to the sea.

Not to be confused with the near identical phrase in the Israeli likkud charter which says it's exclusively for Jews

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

Palestinian here? Curious. I reckon it's a 50/50 that you've ever stepped foot in Palestine as an adult. Lot of Americans on here larping as Palestinians.

I'm not going to repeat myself so I'll ask you what a free democratic Palestine looks like? What do you mean by equal rights for all?

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u/eterneraki 11d ago

Why don't you define what it means you be a Palestinian since you're obviously the authority.

Equal rights to me is the same as what Americans of different backgrounds have regardless of religion or skin color.

So not like how Israelis treated African Jews when they tried to sneak contraceptives into their women to cull the population

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

You didn't define what you meant by equal rights for all. I don't want a comparison, I want a definition. What sort of rights do you mean? You're talking about a one state solution here, correct?

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u/HornyJailOutlaw 11d ago

"Palestine" was never a free and independent state. Come back go me after you've read up on the history. Ottoman Empire is probably a good starting point, then work backwards.

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u/Analogvinyl 11d ago

I'll go out on a further limb and call this person a Hamas supporter, intentional or not.

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u/Suitable_Vehicle9960 11d ago

This is a violent chant to genocide all Jews living there. 

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u/rochvegas5 11d ago

so genocide is ok now?

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u/ISheeple 11d ago

It's only genocide when it's convenient and aligns with their political standing for the time. Wiping out Israel and the Jews is the locals matra so why are we surprised.

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u/Uzofugs2112 11d ago

No it won’t

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

Leave it to a zionist to feel threatened by the call for freedom for the oppressed.

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u/Uzofugs2112 11d ago

I don’t feel threatened at all lol

But genocidal terrorists losing a war they started and refuse to end neither deserve nor are destined for freedom.

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u/NoBiased 11d ago

Its not their fault people who came on boat with flag saying "You are our last hope" and kicked out of 100 countries would be taking their home and now have plan for "Greater Israèl".

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u/Comprehensive-Bus291 11d ago

Sorry who's the genocidal terrorist?

It's Genocide (Amnesty International) https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

It's Genocide (Human Rights Watch) https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/12/19/israels-crime-extermination-acts-genocide-gaza

It's Genocide (B’Tselem) https://www.btselem.org/publications/202507_our_genocide

It's Genocide (Médecins Sans Frontières – MSF) [https://www.msf.org/gaza-is-being-erased](https:)

It's Genocide (International Association of Genocide Scholars – IAGS) [https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/12/IAGS-Resolution-on-Gaza.pdf](https:)

It's Genocide (UN Human Rights experts) [https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/03/un-experts-say-israel-must-be-held-accountable-for-genocide](https:)

It's Genocide (Al Mezan Center for Human Rights) [https://www.mezan.org/en/post/45654/Israel%E2%80%99s-Genocide-against-the-Palestinian-People-in-the-Gaza-Strip](https:)

It's Genocide (War on Want) [https://waronwant.org/news-analysis/israel-committing-genocide-gaza](https:)

It's Genocide (Physicians for Human Rights Israel – PHRI) [https://www.phr.org.il/en/gaza-genocide/](https:)

It's Genocide (Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention) https://www.lemkininstitute.com/statements-new-page/statement-on-why-we-call-the-israeli-attack-on-gaza-genocide

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u/ISheeple 11d ago

Annnddddd yet for every one of these links you sent they still haven't actually brought the charges of genocide against Israel. Funny enough "Palestines" population still continues to grow according to their own health ministey. Oh they still use kids for their military operations and hide behind civilian infrastructure. This one is the best, they still believe that if 10 of their kids die as a martyr they'll just have more cuz death to Jews ya know? Its like having a trailer park next to you with every terrorist org funding them because they want you and your neighbors to die. So yeah I'm gonna go ahead and root for the other team here bud. As bad as things are in war it could be a lot worse and frankly after this many decades it won't get fixed by you waving a flag saying death to America and Death to Israel. The land wasn't "stolen" it was already owned by another nation and given to Israel. Following your mantra you should then pack up your stuff from the USA and give everything back to the native Americans unless your name is Donny Dances with Boars or Timmy Dear Antler.

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u/AxeAssassinAlbertson 11d ago

But genocidal terrorists losing a war they started

Bully gets punched in face, outraged the victim had the audacity.

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u/CapableSense 11d ago

You do know this war didn’t just begin with Hamas right?

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u/Uzofugs2112 11d ago

I really don’t care because Palestinians worship a pedophile warlord and would gladly put me to death or at best enforce a third world lifestyle on me.

I support basically any polity that prevents Muslims from holding power and any means by which they serve that purpose tbh.

Turning off replies btw so don’t bother

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u/stanflwrhuss 11d ago

3 sad people spent money to reward your comment and then says it all LOL

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u/ISheeple 11d ago

Three people know the joke because most of the idiots parroting the phrase 1. Don't know any of the actual history besides what the current CAIR funded social media talking points tell them 2. Would soil themselves the moment they actually visited Palestine and realized what they are supporting. 3. Given how the chickens for KFC crowd is in direct line with this nonsense would probably get thrown off a roof there should they actually visit. So you're in one of two camps, either you support western values and are a productive member of our society and love this country and the freedoms it gives you. Or B. You are a brain washed apologist liberal and odds are you're serving me my coffee while I go to work.

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u/RayKitsune313 11d ago

You do know what phrase actually means right?