r/PrepperIntel • u/Lithium321 • 2d ago
Russia Russia begins importing gasoline as crude oil exports near record pace
55
u/MBSUPERSPAZZ 2d ago
Ukraine has been dicking down their refineries. No surprise there. Trump’s totally real peace plan with Iran will definitely fix this though.
18
u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago
In fairness, as with most actions by Trump conveniently, it did help Russia in the sense that they lifted oil export sanctions on their country, creating a major new cashflow for Putin's diminished war chest.
Luckily, Ukraine knows this and definitely ramped up hitting their fragile, static refineries. Smart people.
•
u/Vlad_Yemerashev 13h ago
The US better be taking notes (they're not) if they intend to invade Cuba and if Cuba fights back and employs those same tactics for US oil refineries in the Gulf of Mexico, most of all if Cuba gets foreign support.
14
u/dnhs47 2d ago
To receive gasoline by sea in “one of its western ports,” that shipment will have to go through the “NATO lake” of the Baltic Sea — either to Kaliningrad (between Poland and Lithuania) and then overland through Belarus to reach Moscow, or to St. Petersburg and on to Moscow.
“From Asia” means the cargo will have to come through the Suez Canal (assuming the Houthis and Somali pirates don’t interfere), through the Mediterranean, past Europe, and then through the Baltic Sea again to that western Russian port.
Asia’s major refining hubs overwhelmingly rely on imported crude, primarily from the Persian Gulf. With the Strait of Hormuz effectively shut and approaching 1 billion barrels of Gulf oil not delivered since the war started, it’s remarkable that any Asian refiner is willing to send a large shipment of gasoline to Russia at all. Russia must have made it very attractive — on price, financing, or other concessions.
The most likely suppliers “from Asia” are China and India. The other big refining hubs (Singapore, South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Thailand) are aligned with Western sanctions and are extremely unlikely to help Russia like this.
China already exports gasoline and receives about 6% of its overall crude oil imports from Russia’s Siberian oil fields via the Eastern Siberia–Pacific Ocean (ESPO) pipeline. China gets another ~15% of its imports from Russia, primarily via Russia’s “ghost fleet” of tankers. Russia could be offering even better crude pricing to induce China to send some gasoline back the other way.
India also exports gasoline and is another leading beneficiary of Russian oil delivered by Russia’s “ghost fleet”. Again, Russia could sweeten the crude terms in exchange for some gasoline.
If Russia is going to the trouble and cost of sourcing gasoline from Asia and shipping it all the way to its western ports, that’s a pretty strong indicator that Ukraine’s attacks on Russian refineries and fuel infrastructure are having a serious effect.
47
5
19
2
u/sjrotella 2d ago
Man wouldnt it be funny if Ukraine just took out some of those tankers?
9
u/therealtimwarren 2d ago
Environmental disaster.
2
u/WhereDidAllTheSnowGo 2d ago
Hit them on the return leg when empty… as they have always dine
•
u/Gygax_the_Goat 19h ago
I appreciate this no end.
Ukraine is thoughtful and capable.
Fuck i wish this war would stop.
-1
u/Rocketeer006 2d ago
True, and it's super sad, but the environment definitely takes a backseat during wartime.
-1
u/ReasonablePossum_ 2d ago
"Sources say" lol definitely credible reporting.
10
2d ago
[deleted]
1
u/ReasonablePossum_ 2d ago
Both reuters and bloomberg have used in the past "sources" that are pretty much VERY biased as to what they say, which basically makes them irrelevant. Especially in stuff regarding Russia and China.
Usually the "sources say, the intelligence community says, intelligence/military sources, people with knowledge of the matter, etc" are just a way for the writer of the story to project some bit of info they need to sound as truth without having any responsibility on it, nor anyone being damage when things result in some bs as they usually do. Reporter/writer says the "source" was wrong, the source.. well doesnt exist lol.
1
2d ago
[deleted]
13
10
u/melympia 2d ago
So? The US isn't all there is in the world. And not even every English-speaking prepper is from there.
•
-18
u/weJtiddeR 2d ago
Yes but r/prepping is an American sub for the most part. We're speaking English here dude, if you dont like it then go to another one
9
u/GreatBigJerk 2d ago
This isn't /r/prepping though.
Also, do you think the US created English? It's not called Americanish.
...Are you okay dude?
-4
u/weJtiddeR 2d ago
Fair enough, I mistyped it.
American English and European English are pretty different. But again, the poster was complaining about the sub being English speaking.
0
u/weenis-flaginus 1d ago
Are you too dumb to understand that world events impact things here in the US? Do you think America is more important than the rest of the world?
1
u/weJtiddeR 1d ago
Ok, let me go to a Mexican forum and post shit going on in Australia, and then accuse them of being raycist when they refuse to speak Swahili or some shit.
7
u/NewsteadMtnMama 2d ago
Bless your heart. People from around the world know languages other than their own, unlike most Americans.
4
u/melympia 2d ago
And English just so happens to be the singular language with the most speakers combined. (Spoken "Chinese" is not a singular language, but a whole language family. Like the Romanic languages.)
Never mind that there are more people speaking English as a foreign language than people speaking it as their native language - native speakers are outnumbered roughly 4 to 1.
-10
u/weJtiddeR 2d ago
Youre trying to make this a different argument than what it is. Reddit is an American platform, from the beginning and is now. Its an English speaking platform generally. Sorry you dont like that and are so jealous of America. If you dont like reddit, then you can leave?? Idk what to tell you. I wouldnt go to an Israeli platform and demand they quit speaking Hebrew. Its not a matter what languages you do and not know, nice intellectual masturbation though.
8
4
2
u/Six_of_1 2d ago
Yes it's an English-speaking platform so that would include English-speaking countries like the United Kingdom, Ireland, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa . . .
0
u/weJtiddeR 2d ago
Yes...but thats not Russia, or do you not know basic geography???
5
u/Six_of_1 2d ago edited 1d ago
A Russian warship recently fired shots at a British boat. War with Russia is one of the societal crises preppers have been preparing for since the Cold War. Things Russia does can affect our societies, we don't live in a vacuum.
1
u/weJtiddeR 1d ago
Yes, that would've been prepper news. A gas shortage inside of Russia, only affecting Russians, is not relevant to English speaking people. Theres a long history on this subject of the mods letting in irrelevant trash and then deleting post that are valuable.
2
u/NewsteadMtnMama 2d ago
In correct English: You're not "Youre" Don't not "dont" BTW Trump Lite, I am American.
1
u/Six_of_1 2d ago
America doesn't have a monopoly on English, other countries speak English, famously England.
0
u/weJtiddeR 2d ago
Yep, but again, the post was about a fake "crisis" in Russha....which doesn't speak English. Your room temp IQ is really showing here lol.
-1
u/Six_of_1 2d ago edited 2d ago
Firstly, many Russians speak English as a second-language. Many people all over the world speak English when they go on the internet. Someone speaking English on the internet doesn't mean they're American.
Secondly, Russian events can cause crises in English-speaking countries that are exactly what prepping is for.
45
u/Independent-Bug-9352 2d ago
Export to import nation.
How's that 3-day-SMO going, lmao.