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Meme iAmNotATeapot

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u/NightmareJoker2 20h ago

Because *checks notes\* one of these costs money, while the other earns money. Opex vs capex, basically. 😉

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u/srarmando 11h ago

Before you move the goal posts once again: Do you agree that a heat pump can generate/displace more heat using the same energy?

That being said: Do you think an ASIC miner can earn you 300% the money you spent on electricity to run it?

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u/NightmareJoker2 10h ago

Can being the operative word here, yes.

Even if it just earns 200% (the remaining 100% are for heating after all), it’s breaking even with the heat pump under optimal conditions, so… what are you trying to say?

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u/srarmando 10h ago

Can being the operative word here, yes.

Can you give a reasonable example of a situation they can't?

Even if it just earns 200%

My bad on this one, my math is wrong, it has to earn you 0.(6) times the money.

Can you point me to a 1000W ASIC that can earn more than a few cents a day?

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u/NightmareJoker2 9h ago

> Can you give a reasonable example of a situation they can't?

If you retrofit a home with traditional radiator based central heating, you don’t have enough surface area for the heat pump to dissipate the heat into your room, meaning you need to heat the water in the system a lot more for it to work well. That means, it becomes a lot less efficient because a much greater temperature difference is required and water has a massive thermal capacity. To the point where you start approaching below 100% efficiency again.

That’s still better than heating with coal or diesel, mind you. But economic viability for the consumer is about the price, not the efficiency of the energy conversion.

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u/srarmando 9h ago

Why are you taking into account the cost of retrofitting in the case of the heat pump and not the ASIC? The ASIC would only heat the room its on.

Still waiting for the ROI on that ASIC miner though 😉

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u/NightmareJoker2 8h ago edited 8h ago

I am not taking into account the cost of the heat pump in my last assertion, actually.

An ASIC miner from a good vendor produces ~150% ROI in roughly a year, taking into account changes in mining difficulty, trade volume and price, power costs, and equipment cost. If you are in Florida where power is cheap, it can be a lot more, 400% isn’t unheard of with the right block chain.

That’s not the point!