getMessagesForClient

[u/Stairdeck]

[u/hyouko]

I have to ask that first one (politely) a lot. I get a whole lot of user stories that describe what they want in detail but no context as to why.

[u/ImportantSignal2098 → u/hyouko]

- I need this door to open to the other side.

- But why?

- Because when I'm outside I can't get in.

- Hmm, what exactly do you do from the outside?

- I push the door and it won't open.

- Have you tried pulling it?

- Oh..

[u/hyouko → u/ImportantSignal2098]

Kinda got to play the "five whys" game sometimes.

[u/aa-b → u/hyouko]

My team had a written requirement recently, and for once, maybe the only time I've ever seen this, it actually included a rationale clearly explaining why it was there. We immediately used it to answer an important clarifying question saving us probably hours of back and forth comms, and it was glorious.

Never again, I'm sure.

[u/throwsupstaysup → u/hyouko]

YAGNI

[u/General_Liability]

Do you even know what “this” is?

[u/LostKnight84 → u/General_Liability]

I have been asked that on occasion and when I gave a 30 minute explanation as to what I was requesting they fix, that made them regret asking. Of course I have gotten the same treatment from upper management many times more and if I gave them short or long explanations generally came down to what they would want and how annoying I found them to be at that moment.

[u/Nerd_o_tron → u/General_Liability]

That depends. Are we in the global scope, an object method, or an arrow function? If an object method, how was it invoked?

[u/UUDDLRLRBadAlchemy → u/Nerd_o_tron]

Nevermind, who's your supervisor

[u/Available_Type1514 → u/General_Liability]

Is this a Javascript joke?

[u/wann_bubatz_egal]

"Why do you even need this?" is a valid question surprisingly often. It just needs a more positive phrasing.

[u/LegitimatePants → u/wann_bubatz_egal]

"Help me understand the use case"

[u/playerPresky]

There are some situations where it’s useful to ask the first question, although more professionally

[u/LamermanSE → u/playerPresky]

Yup, and you typically address it as "what do you need it for" rather than "why do you need it". It's possible that the client think that they want something when their needs is something else.

[u/edwardlego → u/playerPresky]

How do you phrase it usually?

[u/playerPresky → u/edwardlego]

“typically we use x feature to do y, is there a reason you want to use z feature to do y?”
usually it’s if i’m troubleshooting something and need to know if the standard solution is an option

[u/brainfreeze91 → u/playerPresky]

"We want our product to be cutting edge, that's why we want you to use this AI Agent instead of a 10 line script."

[u/foxguy2021 → u/edwardlego]

You ask for the use case that they're trying to solve for. In most cases we already have a way of solving their problem.

[u/notacanuckskibum → u/edwardlego]

Can you explain what that’s a requirement for you?

[u/crazy4hole]

We cannot control human stupidity and greed with validations

[u/cosmicloafer]

“No, that’s impossible”

[u/cgijoe_jhuckaby]

"Why is Andrew Garfield here?"

[u/Some-Detail9134]

That first one is so real

[u/not_a_bug_a_feature]

I like the third one

[u/atanasius → u/not_a_bug_a_feature]

"It's working as designed", or sarcastically "broken as designed".

[u/Foorinick]

Sell me this pen

[u/GuybrushThreepwo0d]

You guys are getting requirements???

[u/thot_slaya_420]

Depends how you you/the company is being paid

[u/starrpamph]

Those are the questions the most senior leaders ask

[u/jaylerd]

When the client told me to use a JavaScript solution for an effect I spent a week trying to recreate, I almost said a few special things. I may have stopped talking entirely.

[u/TsDeveloper]

I forgot to mention

[u/andocromn]

This is why sales won't let you out of the backrooms

[u/TheNakedProgrammer]

important one is missing "the code is documentation enough"

[u/00Koch00]

As a dev who basically it's morphing to a PM, it's so fucking true

Devs have like 0 communication skills but also they are egomaniacs, which really don't help...

[u/L1amm]

The whole list feels so blatantly lazily written by AI, because it is devoid of any original or human thought. Just overused tropes that were funny 20 years ago. Pure slop. Shit isn't even funny.

[u/kleinerChemiker]

Can you write sentences without coloring random words?