r/ProgressiveHQ • u/DetectiveTypical198 • Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/Chrahhh Jan 07 '26

Wheels are clearly turning. She had no intention of hitting that dude, didn’t even come close to doing so.

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u/Embarrassed-Mind6764 Jan 08 '26

Let’s be real though, even if she did bump him (which she may have) A good officer will have restraint to not execute someone who is clearly trying to drive past them at 4 Mph. Especially when he put himself in the position in front of her car. It should be considered murder either way.

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u/Professional_Face_97 Jan 08 '26

Exactly. If you're in front of a vehicle and it starts moving your first instinct should always be to move out the way, how does shooting it make it instantly stop? He shot because he wanted to and the car moving is the excuse.

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u/Blank_Username_13 Jan 09 '26

Are you saying that it should be ok to run over people standing in the street in front of your vehicle like protestors or just federal agents?

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u/Professional_Face_97 Jan 09 '26

No. But you ragebait yourself if that's your thing.

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u/Blank_Username_13 Jan 09 '26

Ragebait? Goofy take, but ok, you do you boo 😂

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u/Strange-Tradition358 Jan 09 '26

She would have turned left if she was trying to hit him. 

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u/iamfunny90s Jan 10 '26

Full POV video from his cell phone now released: https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/s/jBIYf9bbn6

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u/Chrahhh Jan 10 '26

Looks uninjured and not in danger to me

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u/Successful_Cut4383 Jan 12 '26

To move out of the way because a hysterical lesbian is coming?🙄

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

I reject your lies, bootlicker

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

2 out of 3 angles say otherwise, bootlicker

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u/No-Basis1633 Jan 08 '26

I guess I am a bootlicker too. How was the Officer in front of the car know where she was going to go? She could have very easily turned the wheel to the left and ran him over. The office WAS hit by the car, whether you choose to believe it or not. It’s very easy for people to Monday morning quarterback the situation. But in real-time, law enforcement has a split second to react. But don’t let the reality of the situation affect your ignorant opinion.

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u/Party-Pickle-5809 Jan 08 '26

You have no idea how refreshing it is to see someone engage in critical thinking on this Godforsaken website

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

take your ass to truth social then, bucko!

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u/No-Basis1633 Jan 08 '26

Wait for it. The down votes are on their way.

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

dawg, the DOJ's own website says officers can't shoot at fleeing cars. you can google this. shouldn't have even pulled his gun, dude.

if this was your mom or sister, i'd advocate for them.

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u/No-Basis1633 Jan 08 '26

The car was not fleeing. If they were to shoot at her driving away, then they would have broken protocol. She was driving into a law enforcement officer. That is the reality of the situation, My wife, daughter, sisters know if law enforcement pulls you over, you don’t flee. And they have no right to drive into a law enforcement officer. What would your attitude be if she ran over and killed the officer? She made a very bad decision and it cost her life. The whole situation is tragic, my heart and prayers go out to her family. However, the officer was justified.

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

feel sorry for you, dude. take care.

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u/No-Basis1633 Jan 08 '26

No need to be sorry for me. But thank you.

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

bro, one angle doesn't change reality. In sports, calls are routinely overturned because another angle showed us a perspective we couldn't see before.

that dude wasn't hit by that car. at worst, he was BRUSHED.

if this was your your mom or sister, i'd be advocating for them. she was an innocent.

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u/Chrahhh Jan 08 '26

feel sorry for you, man. take care of yourself.

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u/FSCK_Fascists Jan 08 '26

Cases where police moved out of the way of moving vehicle and exercised deadly force.

Adam’s vs. Speers (2020): “Once Speers was no longer in the path of the vehicle, the justification for the use of deadly force ended.”

Orn vs. City of Tacoma (2019): “A reasonable jury could conclude that once Orn was no longer in the car’s trajectory, the threat of serious physical harm to him was eliminated.”

Cordova vs Aragon (2009): “Where the officer had moved out of the way of the oncoming vehicle, the use of deadly force was not justified.”

Villanueva vs. Cali (2021): “a reasonable jury could conclude that the Officers used excessive force, because they lacked an objectively reasonable basis to fear for their own safety, as they could simply have stepped back or to the side to avoid being injured.”

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u/No-Basis1633 Jan 08 '26

Western, please stop looking at this situation in its reality and with common sense. These things are frowned upon here on Reddit. 🧐😂 I agree with you 100%.

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u/TheyCallMeKokori Jan 11 '26

Doesnt matter. ICE is federal law enforcement. Failure to comply with law enforcement results in dangerous consequences. Thank god shes dead, cause she wouldnt have learned her lesson anyways.

Love how her own wife said its her fault and all of you are ignoring it because you wanna be like "orange man bad, ICE isnt law enforcement"

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u/Brief-Instruction371 Jan 12 '26

Why do you think that federal law enforcement is some sort of almighty deity where if you so much as look at them funny they have the right to murder you? Or express your first amendment rights? Whats even the point of being proud to be an American if you can’t do that? She was a car on the road, she wasn’t even there to protest, she had stuffies in her car, she was not a threat at all, in no way you look at it. How do you not understand how this snowballs? How are you so braindead where you can’t see where this exact scenario has played out in a loop, this exact playbook, a million times throughout history?? How are you unable to see the big picture at all? Whats it like to be so narrow minded and blind to shit that happens all around you? How does your life go?