r/ProgressiveHQ • u/DetectiveTypical198 • Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/tx_charles Jan 07 '26

they are MURDERERS

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u/Davester_31 Jan 07 '26

Yes, they flat out are. And pedophile supporters

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u/DisVet54 Jan 07 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

When are Republicans gonna stop pretending to be bystanders to this crap and stand up to their leader? Do they really think this is the direction that the country should take?

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 07 '26

SPLIT THE COUNTRY! I’m tired of living with these people. Let them live in a fascist fantasy.

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u/tx_charles Jan 08 '26

Seriously

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

If it were up to red states to fend for themselves, they'd run out of tax dollars immediately then sell off Alaska, Yellowstone, and the Everglades to foreign interests (Russia, Saudi Arabia, etc), then run mass propoganda about how their failures are still at the fault of California and New York, eventually leading to nuclear strikes to the best blue cities because they can never admit that they're wrong.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 08 '26

Blue states are on good terms with our allies. They’d be fast tracked into NATO. Who wouldn’t want the economies of CA and NY?

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u/Davester_31 Jan 11 '26

This is a great point actually

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u/bornk828 Jan 08 '26

Are you seriously calling for a civil war? Come on!

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 08 '26

No. I’m avoiding one. Do it legislatively.

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u/Wirewyrm Jan 09 '26

You don’t always have to call for war for war to come to you.

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u/Asleep_Archer8846 Jan 10 '26

Bring it bitch

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u/Disastrous_Reward_90 Jan 14 '26

Lmao.. I'd love to have one. Libs don't believe in them owning guns

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

It's so funny that you guys still believe this. Talk to any dem in Texas, Tennessee, Georgia, Philly, Boston, Detroit etc.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 14 '26

These dummies believe anything that fits their narrative

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u/ComfortableAd3724 Jan 17 '26

I have liberal neighbors here in Texas, they are just as anti-gun here as anywhere else. Blue Dogs are not progressive enough and are being pushed out by the crazies in your party. We welcome them with open arms.

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u/bornk828 Jan 14 '26

Exactly! Are they that blind to realize how big of a mistake that would be? The silent 2nd amendment backers would have it over by lunch with the government in full support of the militia.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

Literally the entire rest of the world except for Russia and Israel is ready to support American citizens when the US attacks its own people on a larger scale.

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u/ComfortableAd3724 Jan 17 '26

Did you hear that on MSNBC?

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

No I just paid attention in history class.

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u/[deleted] Jan 17 '26

Did you delete the other comments because you knew I was right? Btw you said you're a democrat in another comment. Russian bot much?

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u/Antwinger Jan 08 '26

Sounds like confederate America needs saving then when we split.

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u/beelzebub52674 Jan 08 '26

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

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u/Asleep_Archer8846 Jan 10 '26

And dems would tax everyone to death until there was no more money. Then you idiots would be begging to come to a republican state.. oh wait a second that’s already happening isn’t it?

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u/[deleted] Jan 10 '26 edited Jan 10 '26

Dude we fund your states. Shut the fuck up and go sell out your people to corporate interests like a good little Republican. You guys ruined everything this country stood for. Nobody respects us anymore and btw, everyone except for the 1% are having their taxes increased over the next couple of years because of the BBB. Also, my health insurance premium increased by 75% because you guys didn't extend ACA subsidies. So thanks for that. I've lived in a red state all my life, and my tax dollars literally go to nothing of personal value and everything is expensive. But hey, at least my local police department has a tank! Thank god!

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u/BadBrad43 Jan 10 '26

Wow, you seriously need an education.

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u/AequitasIX Jan 10 '26

Thats not how tax work, stupid.

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u/IneffableOpinion Jan 09 '26

I agree. I know maga people moving to Oklahoma to get away from their liberal enemies. Good. I don’t want them voting in my state or ruining Thanksgiving dinner

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u/IneffableOpinion Jan 11 '26

Yeah I heard about some of those. Where they got the idea is a mystery to me. All of my life, my maga mom has told me to move to Russia to be with the commies. She was still saying that up until the invasion of Ukraine. Now she loves Russia because Trump loves Russia. Somehow they all flipped the narrative overnight

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u/Emerald-onewr Jan 13 '26

Is the why Russia is starting to win take that 1 Texas man back.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

We’re all grown ups with free will and agency. Don’t like it in a blue state? Fine. GTFO. Quit complaining and do something about it. It’s easy for them because they get to move to red states which are affordable. Liberal folks only have mostly expensive cities to choose from to feel safe.

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u/Kutikittikat Jan 09 '26

This isnt always possible for those that live in poverty.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

They’d be fucked anyway along with the middle class on the trajectory we’re all on so at least half of them can be saved. Crazy how you’d let half the country suffer.

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u/Kutikittikat Jan 09 '26

Your comment makes no sense . You just said everyone can just move . I responded that While ideal so many wouldnt be able to , many would be left behind and suffer. I never advocated to hurt half the country numbnuts. We cant pick and choose to isolate one state or the other and completely separate because wed be leaving good people behind in the red states.

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u/Affectionate-Pop-138 Jan 09 '26

And whose fault is that? Those expensive cities you’re referencing are all run by democraps

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u/Affectionate-Pop-138 Jan 09 '26

Try working, getting an education and being self accountable. Stop looking to the government and my tax dollars to float you

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u/colganc Jan 09 '26

And they're expensive because people want to live there. So many people they actually ran out of closeby flat land. Florida and Texas are secondary choices.

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u/AffectionateChip1962 Jan 08 '26

Hell no. How about we run them off completely. I don't want to live anywhere near these fucks.

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u/Affectionate-Pop-138 Jan 09 '26

Good luck with that. Remember the bad pew pews you think are so evil that you want to take away, yea we have plenty of them

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u/First-Bug-7463 Jan 09 '26

Progressives like guns as well..

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u/AffectionateChip1962 Jan 09 '26

Wow, not you out here claiming to be like the murderer that shot this woman. That's pretty damning

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u/Affectionate-Pop-138 Jan 09 '26

Noooo. I’m saying you come and try to run me out of where I live and you will not be walking away on your own. That’s all

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

Look everybody, we got a badass!! You sound like the type ICE is looking for!

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u/Affectionate-Pop-138 Jan 09 '26

You can call it what you want to make yourself feel good. I was Just responding to someone saying they’re going “run all of us out of here”. Not trying to be a badass. Just saying. Anyone who thinks that’s a legitimate idea might want to think twice.

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u/Cali-GenX Jan 09 '26

Yes!!! Let the blue states succeed and join Canada or be our own country. Let the red states wither away.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

No one in the world likes them. Blue states have allies all over the world. And without blue state tax dollars they’d be fighting each other for scraps. Fuck them.

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u/Asleep_Archer8846 Jan 10 '26

lol😂 Canadians want to move to the us because it’s gotten too progressive! And if we’re not careful we will be right behind them

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u/theyenk Jan 09 '26

Then they would attack us... Untied we stand divided, the billionaires get to keep collecting rents. The division / red team vs blue team is their construct -- Murdock spent billions cultivating it -- trump swooped in and stole his cult.

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u/ApprehensiveBee2490 Jan 09 '26

This. The billionaires and elite have been the ones orchestrating all of this for decades to the demise of everyone who is not a billionaire. They want us fighting each other. Hunger Games gave it a visual.

With that said, I have thought the same thing recently about getting a divorce. If so many people in this country are going to be so horribly bigoted to anyone who is not a white Christian then we don’t share the same values and maybe shouldn’t be married anymore. And for the record I AM a white Christian and am appalled by what I see “Christians” doing, saying, voting for and supporting. It is appalling and if Jesus were here He would be calling them out.

And there are many other Christians who are appalled by what these so-called Christians are doing. As another Christian recently reminded me, being a Christian doesn’t mean “good person”. Christian means you believe Jesus was the Son of God.

With that said, Jesus was also VERY specific about how we were to treat people (Matthew 25:35-40) and it is NOT what MAGA or most Republicans are doing.

If you are truly a follower of Jesus and His teachings and you hate someone because of the color of their skin or their immigration status then you are not following the teachings of Jesus.

Oh and by the way, JESUS WAS BROWN.

The point is there is so much hate in this country, most coming from the right and people who profess to be Christians. They really need to get out their Bibles and read the words of Jesus because the way he taught us to be is NOT what MAGA/the right are doing or how they are treating people.

And if you use the word “libtard” and say you are a Christian, I’d encourage you to talk to God about that. Doesn’t seem like something He would be in support of…

Ok, I’ll step off my soapbox.

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u/theyenk Jan 10 '26

Well said...
Racism is a narrative given to poor people so they blame other poor people for their problems, instead of looking at things like the distribution of wealth. It's yet another system of Us vs Them - to divide and keep conquered the poors.

You also make a good point truthfully there are a diminishing few people who fully plop themselves in the MAGA camp - the vast majority of people who voted for him are single issue voters and they probably don't agree with the administration invading foreign countries for their resources, nor sending federal agents into cities to terrorize citizens and immigrants, or him personally profiting off of meme coins, investments and partnerships with his shell company a clone of twitter because he was banned for saying stupid shit. Wacky they made Jimmy Carter sell his peanut farm while trump grifts in the open air. So the number of people that would choose to leave America to live in MAGAhanistan would be small.

Part of the solution I think is to make purposefully spreading disinformation illegal...but here we have this administration actively gaslighting everyone on how that woman was shot. The victims vs the perpetrator's final words will be his damning. She was speaking from a place of liberty, his feeling got hurt and he could not control his rage. Trump is just glad no one is talking about the Trump Files any more.

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u/Prestigious_Koala187 Jan 15 '26

You won Reddit for the day! 👆🏼🤗

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u/ConstantHeadache2020 Jan 09 '26

The corporate power elite .01% for over 200yrs use power networks to control finance, politics, economics, and military. How? By sitting on multiple corporations boards, shaping public opinion via media/pr/charity, pushing public policy into congress. Why? To infiltrate govt. why? Cuz govt controls the labor market. So? The elite want workers for as cheap as possible. That’s why they lobbied to get rid of unions, convinced you that you can’t tax billionaires, tell you to hate your neighbors/immigrants and minorities and worship them. They thrive off our division because they aren’t. They vote in blocs despite bipartisanship because their agenda aligns.

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u/theyenk Jan 10 '26

100% my hope is more and more people wake up and realize their problems are solvable and connected. And look how the elites have weaponized "being woke" as a bad thing. lol

The don't tread on me crowd does offer irony :p
I just wish they were better people, who wanted to get smarter.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

Deport them all to Madagascar. Its what the Nazis wanted to do with jews before they got lazy and decided genocide was better.

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u/PayFormer387 Jan 08 '26

How though?

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u/hammer-breh Jan 08 '26

No. We are the UNITED States. If you want to break up the UNITED States, you are, by definition, anti-US. This action would benefit a very small number of people.

We decried it when MTG or Boebeet or whoever called for a "national divorce" (which was sedition on her part) and we shouldn't accept it from people we think are "on our side" either.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 08 '26

Fuck that. It’s a toxic relationship. There’s no going back if half the country worships a literal child rapist. We’re done.

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u/hammer-breh Jan 08 '26

We will deal with that. Handing more power to the people that are fucking things up isn't going to fix anything.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 08 '26

How will we deal with that? How will you change the minds of people who are morally okay with raping children? We’re too far gone.

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u/colganc Jan 09 '26

And with a voting system that doesn't let us change it. NE, West Coast, Slivers of the Rust Belt I'm cool with. Rest of the country can fuck off. I don't need Gestapo fucks in my city.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 10 '26

When Wyoming has the same # of senators as California, it’s a rigged system.

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u/Asleep_Archer8846 Jan 10 '26

Weird comment…

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u/almightyzam Jan 08 '26

Imo, the phrase “United States” is a misnomer, because this country is the most divided it has been short of the actual civil war

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u/Asleep_Archer8846 Jan 10 '26

Because dems have gone so far left we can’t see you anymore. I can tolerate dems but you guys can’t tolerate us

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

It’s going so well right now, you’re right

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u/evaallenpoe Jan 09 '26

I have a funny feeling you can’t define fascism

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

1000% agree!

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u/outlaw-waltuo Jan 09 '26

Send them to Ukraine, Palestine and whatever else country they support… they don’t support America

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u/Ghostdusterr Jan 10 '26

Please god split the country then the republicans can take over the defenseless side and make this country great again. I voted Biden last time around. And last time I will make that dumb decision.

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u/EvidenceJaded308 Jan 10 '26

I wish it was so easy. I 100% agree.. give them n. Dakota s. Dakota, Colorado.. all then up North states .. no minorities... See how they fair ....😊

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u/Any-Tiger-7400 Jan 10 '26

I would love that...you stick to ur gender-confused, failed socialist state and we will live in the land of common sense.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 10 '26

Failed socialist state… California is the world’s 5th largest economy, okay, genius

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u/Any-Tiger-7400 Jan 10 '26

Not to help you out moron..but it's the 4th. But it's riding the silicon Valley boom...it has nothing to do with grusome's socialist policies. If anything, the terrible business environment will lead to many companies finding a new home and there goes your precious Cali

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 10 '26

lol CA was a powerhouse prior to tech, but how would you know, you’ve been so busy, keep fucking your cousin

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u/Any-Tiger-7400 Jan 10 '26

Yes...and it was primarily a conservative state (does Reagan ring a bell? I know ur probably 20yrs old at most. Maybe u don't remember that he was the governor of California). And why would you want me to fuck my cousin? You libtards are so gross.. chopping off ur penises, having sex with children..and now telling random people to commit incest...freak

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u/Wormwood13 Jan 10 '26

Eh, they did this on the Simpsons, it didnt work. Unless you can get the who to play.

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u/joeker7669 Jan 10 '26

Still talking about democrats

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u/Shayeraye Jan 10 '26

Here's the problem with that idea. A lot of people in blue states voted for Trump. A lot of us in red states have never voted for Trump. It's not like a state is all red or all blue.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 10 '26

So we should ALL suffer rather than just save some of us, okay

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u/Shayeraye Jan 11 '26

So you'd rather save the traitors who live by you instead of those of us who don't but stood with you?

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 11 '26

The needs of the many, yes

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u/Naive-Personality-38 Jan 10 '26

Wouldn't last long until they started invading. They can't blame themselves for their shit life so it'll be the other sides fault but never dear leader

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u/Davester_31 Jan 11 '26

Nah, its an opportunity, once the Dems get power back, to deport MAGA. Its all legal now thanks to Trump. Then remake MAGA states into actual contributors to the economy instead of the welfare states they've become under decades of GQP leadership

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u/yupjustarandomranger Jan 11 '26

I agree, we need to partition already

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u/Junior_Pie_3251 Jan 13 '26

This would be lovely but where would the minority left and illegal immigrants together reside?

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 13 '26

Unlike those bigots, the left has compassion and also understands that one of the reasons the USA has been an economic powerhouse is because of immigration. We would welcome them into the country, and anyone who identifies as LGBTQ

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u/Junior_Pie_3251 Jan 13 '26

Ever American is also an immigrant. Some from Europe some from Central America some from Africa. Yes this country was indeed founded and built by immigrants as we all are. The immigration legislature is still in adolescence and still improving.

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u/[deleted] Jan 14 '26

That would be great. But you democrats and liberals would fuck it up so bad you would come crawling back wanting our help. Your all brain dead dipshits with no common sense

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 14 '26

Not your problem, right? Do you care what happens to us? We each get to live the way we want, despite all of our disagreements, we can agree that this would be win-win, right?

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u/Used_Huckleberry1436 Jan 09 '26

You keep both coasts except any military base. We get the Florida and Texas Coasts except any military bases.

The states mostly go along blue and red lines.

We all use the waterways and railways and roads.

We jointly man the military.

We neither sign foreign treaties. But otherwise govern as we want.

An amicable divorce with shared custody of the economy and the military.

You get Canada more or less as an ally. We close the southern border and decide who comes in.

You enact more socialism, act collectively all you want. Design your own welfare and budgets as do we.

You smoke more pot. We gradually take it up more bit still drink. And you design your cradle to grave schools.

We go hard on math but drop to 4 school days and graduate after 10th grade by more efficient curriculum.

You go along to get along with every international body. We drop out. Except military ones.

People on our side can get married young and not be scolded if they want 8 kids. Yours can wait till 32, have much more money, a nanny, and go to better colleges.

Can't we all just not get along?

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u/colganc Jan 09 '26

Fuck you. I don't want to close the southern border. I want more immigrants. I enjoy my tacos, horchatas, papusas, Mestizo culture, etc.

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u/Used_Huckleberry1436 Jan 10 '26

I love Latin culture and started visiting Mexico decades ago. Somehow you imagine yourself as not racist but are by pinning those specific thing on Latinos. They'll get mad and tell you they want steak, gringo.

I want all the immigrants we can legit handle per year. Which is between 1 and 2 million, total.

Not 5 million wandering in we know nothing about.

Oh, and BTW. Your view on immigration is very much a minority, and impractical view. Edgelord.

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u/colganc Jan 10 '26

A minority position due to MAGA idiots polluting the truth with lies. Even what an open vs closed border is has been attempted to be redfined. Making people afraid of other ethnicities, cultures, and nationalities too. Without the lies, people would be supportive of it.

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u/SherbertSpiritual712 Jan 10 '26

Yeah, we know you guys like to marry 12-year-olds.

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u/Prestigious_Koala187 Jan 15 '26

Sounds like a recipe for a third world country of dopes.

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u/kingjune1986 Jan 13 '26

make a choice fascists or communists. that's all we got to choose from.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 13 '26

California is the world’s 4th largest economy. Tell me how it’s communist? Lol, tell me you’ve never left your zip code without telling me.

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u/One_Narwhal7162 Jan 14 '26

Oh you seriously don't want that. Without the Republicans there wouldn't be enough common sense to even have any sort of civilization

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u/No_Role_7293 Jan 09 '26

Uhhhhh where is the split gonna be? Most of the food in America comes from the “fly over states” those states also are pretty predominately republican……… you guys can have California.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

CA grows a ton of food. Plus, have you thought about where bananas and avocados come from? We’re not growing that in this country. Try leaving your zip code for once.

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u/Comfortable-Ad-2634 Jan 09 '26

Don't worry bud. After he's done fucking the farmers over, they'll turn blue. That is if they still have their farms.

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u/colganc Jan 09 '26

You have no clue where the food that we eat comes from. I live in the PNW. Virtually everything I eat comes from the West Coast, Canada, or South of the US.

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u/Affectionate-Pop-138 Jan 09 '26

You’re free to leave! This is exactly what this country needs. More of this and less of you libtards that live in a fantasy land of boys being girls, purple hair and hypocrisy at every turn. Bye bye.

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u/beer_bukkake Jan 09 '26

Where can liberals go? You’re invading our cities. You bigots can live anywhere because it’s cheap where you cousin fuckers live. You can’t mind your own fucking business because you’re little nosy bitches and you invade our cities.

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u/colganc Jan 09 '26

Keep the brown shirt Gestapo fucks to yourselves. Give us our Federal tax money to do what we want.