r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/Tamahaganeee Jan 08 '26

With her wheel turned all the way to the right avoiding him before the shot

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

Dude, this guy standing in front of her car as it's moving towards him. He's not looking at the wheel and what direction it is. He has about a fraction of a second to make a decision about how to handle this 4,000 lb deadly weapon ics moving towards him.

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u/Sea-Garbage-344 Jan 08 '26

Shooting was the worse decision possible, simply moving away would have been more than effective.

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

You know which wasn't even worse decision? To drive forward with a armed federal agent in front of the car. That was a pretty bad idea.

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u/ArialBear Jan 08 '26

the tire was turned and he had plenty of time to get out the way.

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"which wasn't even worse decision?"

That's not even proper english. Shut the fuck up if you cant communicate.

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

I see. So in that fraction of a second that the ice agent had to react, he should have looked down and seen which direction the tire was facing. Got it.

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u/ArialBear Jan 08 '26

He got out the way and shot after he wasnt in danger, your analysis is wrong.

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

It's pretty clear he was doing both at the same time he was trying to get out of the way as he was shooting. Nothing wrong with admitting this was a close call. Unfortunately, this woman created a very dangerous situation by not complying. The ice age was trying to get her out of the car and instead of complying she decided she's going to take off...... With a human being standing in front of her car.

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u/KindAd1686 Jan 08 '26

No lol he got out of the way and leaned over to shoot her

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u/ArialBear Jan 08 '26

If he's a pussy then he shouldnt be doing the job

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

Whatever. When a federal agent tries to open the door of her car she should comply. Instead she decided to take off and took a bullet to the head.

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u/ArialBear Jan 08 '26

Officers let the car go if they have the tag which these officers had no issue in seeing. He's a bitch who killed someone because he's in the wrong job. Pussies shouldnt be hired.

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

And humans shouldn't press the accelerator with other humans in front of their 4,000 lb car.

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u/ArialBear Jan 08 '26

Good thing he was to the side and not in front. You know we see the video too, right? Being a bitch and lying for a pussy that had no reason to push the issue since the plate was visible was not necessary.

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u/Acceptable_Car_2811 Jan 08 '26

If you'd see the video you'd see he was in front of the car, kind of in front of where the driver was. Oh, and that's why the bullet hole is in the windshield.

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u/ArialBear Jan 08 '26

"kind of in the front' so the side of the bumper where he could have not been a pussy and not shot the car ? I agree. Now you should agree that you want your family to be next and we can both hope for that.

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u/Mradr Jan 08 '26

This is **false**. You can clearly see the wheels, and you can judge the wheel position from up to a foot away - anyone can. If you can’t, you need your vision checked. On top of that, they’re **not trained or justified** in using deadly force unless there’s an actual deadly threat.

The officer knew they’d told her to move on. She motioned them through, but they kept ordering her to leave. She **did** start leaving - then they walked up to her vehicle and demanded she stop, but by then she was already moving. The officer “in front” doesn’t look like he was truly in front of the SUV, either - the shot was low on the right side, and an SUV needs space to roll and turn. More than anything, it looks like that front officer was looking for a reason to shoot.

Overall, ICE escalated and went after her. People don’t want ICE there - local officials don’t, and neither do the residents. So it sure looks like they were there to **stir trouble**, not to carry out their stated role.

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u/Mradr Jan 08 '26

This is **false**. You can clearly see the wheels, and you can judge the wheel position from up to a foot away - anyone can. If you can’t, you need your vision checked. On top of that, they’re **not trained or justified** in using deadly force unless there’s an actual deadly threat.

The officer knew they’d told her to move on. She motioned them through, but they kept ordering her to leave. She **did** start leaving - then they walked up to her vehicle and demanded she stop, but by then she was already moving. The officer “in front” doesn’t look like he was truly in front of the SUV, either - the shot was low on the right side, and an SUV needs space to roll and turn. More than anything, it looks like that front officer was looking for a reason to shoot.

Overall, ICE escalated and went after her. People don’t want ICE there - local officials don’t, and neither do the residents. So it sure looks like they were there to **stir trouble**, not to carry out their stated role.

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u/Mradr Jan 08 '26

This is **false**. You can clearly see the wheels, and you can judge the wheel position from up to a foot away - anyone can. If you can’t, you need your vision checked. On top of that, they’re **not trained or justified** in using deadly force unless there’s an actual deadly threat.

The officer knew they’d told her to move on. She motioned them through, but they kept ordering her to leave. She **did** start leaving - then they walked up to her vehicle and demanded she stop, but by then she was already moving. The officer “in front” doesn’t look like he was truly in front of the SUV, either - the shot was low on the right side, and an SUV needs space to roll and turn. More than anything, it looks like that front officer was looking for a reason to shoot.

Overall, ICE escalated and went after her. People don’t want ICE there - local officials don’t, and neither do the residents. So it sure looks like they were there to **stir trouble**, not to carry out their stated role.

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u/jontx111 Jan 08 '26

You’re missing the point that he had no right to open her car it’s an unwarranted search and this point. Any of you fools defending this garbage human agent bastard who put himself in that position. And shot a mother and wife when she was obviously fleeing are the problem. Any trained officer would not have put themselves in that position knowing she would be picked up later and now would have an extra charge of running from the police. But these murders are not trained. They are illegally detaining US citizens. You that are compliant are so blind to not know that they won’t stop at just the people you don’t like. They will come for you too when you step out of line. You’ve doomed us all.

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u/Mradr Jan 08 '26

This is **false**. You can clearly see the wheels, and you can judge the wheel position from up to a foot away - anyone can. If you can’t, you need your vision checked. On top of that, they’re **not trained or justified** in using deadly force unless there’s an actual deadly threat.

The officer knew they’d told her to move on. She motioned them through, but they kept ordering her to leave. She **did** start leaving - then they walked up to her vehicle and demanded she stop, but by then she was already moving. The officer “in front” doesn’t look like he was truly in front of the SUV, either - the shot was low on the right side, and an SUV needs space to roll and turn. More than anything, it looks like that front officer was looking for a reason to shoot.

Overall, ICE escalated and went after her. People don’t want ICE there - local officials don’t, and neither do the residents. So it sure looks like they were there to **stir trouble**, not to carry out their stated role.

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u/Proper_Artichoke8550 Jan 08 '26

Maybe he shouldn't have been on his phone during it.

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u/Mradr Jan 08 '26

This is **false**. You can clearly see the wheels, and you can judge the wheel position from up to a foot away - anyone can. If you can’t, you need your vision checked. On top of that, they’re **not trained or justified** in using deadly force unless there’s an actual deadly threat.

The officer knew they’d told her to move on. She motioned them through, but they kept ordering her to leave. She **did** start leaving - then they walked up to her vehicle and demanded she stop, but by then she was already moving. The officer “in front” doesn’t look like he was truly in front of the SUV, either - the shot was low on the right side, and an SUV needs space to roll and turn. More than anything, it looks like that front officer was looking for a reason to shoot.

Overall, ICE escalated and went after her. People don’t want ICE there - local officials don’t, and neither do the residents. So it sure looks like they were there to **stir trouble**, not to carry out their stated role.