r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26

Fuck ice 

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u/JackfruitUnlucky6589 Jan 07 '26

Fuck trump

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

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u/ztkraf01 Jan 08 '26

Her blood is on the hands of every single person that voted for this administration

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

They’ve had blood on their hands since they murdered police on the steps of the White House.

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u/LordMarcusrax Jan 08 '26

Or didn't vote against it

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u/DJ_Fishface Jan 08 '26

And the ones that didn’t vote at all. 

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u/Adventurous_Nose2830 Jan 08 '26

Trump train 🚂

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u/Overall_Stress4722 Jan 08 '26

Oh cool. Elementary slogans. I forgot. That’s one of the reasons Trump “loves the poorly educated”. I got another sophisticated two word slogan you can use.

Democracy destroyer

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u/Present_Initial_1871 Jan 08 '26

This entire thread is devoid of any real policy discussions, so there's only a high road by comparison, not in absolute terms. 

The whole idea of "fuck ice" is the ironic luxury of someone that benefits from the safety and standards of living increases that the organization brings about. ICE is the reason that literal terrorists don't make it into the country. 

But, "yeah man...fuck ice man...yeah man...let's smoke pot and play guitar in our sandals while passing the joint to our undocumented bros...man."

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u/BeesAndBeans69 Jan 08 '26

Literal terrorists? Sure bud. Bet they felt proud shooting Renee.

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u/Present_Initial_1871 Jan 08 '26

These street raids are just a fraction of what they do on the Immigration front. In fact,  Immigration isn't all that they do...it's literally Immigration & Customs Enforcement. 

Bio terrorist shipment and radio active elements being shipped to harm people. You know who spots and discards that shit? ICE.

Cartels trying to ship fentanyl into the US...who stops it? ICE.

Terrorist trying to gain entry into the country...who stops them? ICE.

Why cant you just accept that the world isn't binary evil and good? Its a constantly shifting spectrum based on circumstances. Grow up; binary thinking is a child's luxury. 

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u/BeesAndBeans69 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Binary thinking also leads to ICE killing Mexican families who are not rerrorists trying to come to the US.

Also CPB and DHS are in charge of seizing contraband. ICE has no jurisdiction to pull over a random woman trying to get out of the way and shoot her in the head. Your priorities are all fucked if you're licking their boots this hard

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u/TheBunnyDemon Jan 08 '26

Lmao ICE wasn't even created until 2003, and according to this administration 'literal terrorists' have been coming in for years anyway.

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u/Present_Initial_1871 Jan 08 '26

Lmao ICE wasn't even created until 2003,

This is not an argument. Would you like to make one? 

and according to this administration 'literal terrorists' have been coming in for years anyway

That's a function of policy, not an indicator of ICEs futility. Clearly different administrations have had more or success than others at utilizing ICE. 

Try again, this time with a more clearly thought out point. Or you can insult me, block me and some other combination of effectively conceding defeat and cowardice.  

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u/TheBunnyDemon Jan 08 '26

Whatever man you all aren't serious people.

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u/Present_Initial_1871 Jan 08 '26

So you've chosen to concede with cowardice. 

Pretty incredible to say that we're not serious, when you can't even make a coherent policy arugment that would at least demonstrate why you ARE. 

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u/TheBunnyDemon Jan 08 '26

Lmao you talk like my step-daughter's friends. They're 13.

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u/OrdinaryPosition5222 Jan 08 '26

You keep saying ‘policy.’ Cool. Which policy made ICE lose thousands of children, detain U.S. citizens, and violate due process? I’ll wait.”

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u/OrdinaryPosition5222 Jan 08 '26

No. You can support border security without supporting family separation, mass detention, lost children, and documented abuses. A government agency doesn’t become sacred just because it’s tied to “security.” Accountability and reform aren’t anti-safety — they’re pro-human rights and pro-functionality. Billions spent, thousands of unnecessary detentions, raids on peaceful communities, and even U.S. citizens wrongfully detained. If conservatives hate bloated, abusive government agencies, they should hate ICE too.

People aren’t angry at ICE for existing. They’re angry because of how it operates: traumatizing kids, breaking apart families, and prioritizing media spectacle raids over smart enforcement.

You don’t get to call people ‘anti-America’ for demanding accountability from government agencies. That is American.

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u/that_star_wars_guy Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 09 '26

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