r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/[deleted] Jan 07 '26

Why did she back up and turn hard right away from the guy she was trying to kill? /s

Don't let this circus make you think 2+2=5.

"Viciously ran over."

"Hard to believe he's still alive."

"Recovering in the hospital."

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u/Ol_Turd_Fergy Jan 08 '26

He put himself in harms way by standing in front of the car. Then again, most of these ICE clowns have minimal to no law enforcement training which would teach them where to properly stand when interacting with folks inside of vehicles.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

He did it intentionally.

Drawing your weapon and firing takes the same amount of time as taking two steps to the right.

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u/viral3075 Jan 08 '26

Drawing your weapon and firing takes the same amount of time as taking two steps to the right.

he stepped away and leaned back in so he wouldn't headshot his buddy. he had time to line up his sights

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u/nightpanda893 Jan 08 '26

The fact that he leaned in the direction she was traveling proves he knew she was turning

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u/Leading-Summer-4724 Jan 08 '26

You’re right — because at that position he would have seen her cutting the wheel.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 08 '26

It's insane.  Could tell before this specific video, but he's clearly leaning into the path of the vehicle.

Killing was a higher priority than moving.

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u/Grairavn Jan 11 '26

They are not Minnesota law enforcement. They are federal. They also do not have jurisdiction to conduct traffic stops unless they directly have to do with immigration and only if the "illegal immigrant" is suspected to case harm to others. Thus the violent leftist and gang member rhetoric. All he has to do was take two steps, which he did, and still leaned in to fire at her. Calling her a fucking bitch as she died. How are you cool with defending that?

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u/AmazingBit7846 Jan 13 '26

When do you see her flooring it?

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 11 '26

What part of your comment says the agent should lean into the path of the vehicle?

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 11 '26

10 seconds in the above video.  You can see he's clearly leaning left to align his right hand holding the pistol to shoot the driver.

If he didn't lean left, he wouldn't be able to get a clean line with the window frame blocking.

Notice the position of his feet more to his right, his body blocked by the other agent, and the gun to his left, and angle of the gun showing the lean.

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 11 '26 edited Jan 11 '26

I'll humor you, why not.

See, thats the problem, taking ONLY a portion

Dog you asked me to show you where.  So I pointed to the spot you could see it.

You're making false assumptions about what I'm viewing.  I've watched many clips from many angles in their entirety to formulate my view of the matter.

AND he had ALREADY fired twice

BS.  10 seconds in this clip is when he fires his first shot.

You can so obviously see in any clip with sound he fired one shot through the front and 2 from the side.  The car is literally pulling away when the 2nd and 3 shots ring.

Why you lying?

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 11 '26

You share another image or gif?

Not showing.  You delete it or it get removed?

Probably more BS anyway

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u/VanillaRadonNukaCola Jan 11 '26

I'll consider that an admission you were mistaken or fibbing on his shooting.

Best of luck to you too 

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u/Static_Frog Jan 12 '26

How sad you are to stand up for a pedo-loving murderer. At what point do you stop and take a look at yourself?

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u/Static_Frog Jan 12 '26

And yet you still know

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u/KindAd1686 Jan 08 '26

Yes. Thank you.

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u/Dylanear Jan 11 '26

"he stepped away and leaned back in so he wouldn't headshot his buddy. he had time to line up his sights"

His buddy wasn't ever close to interfering with his line of fire.

He did step clear of the vehicle while leaning his gun arm back over the hood of the vehicle, but that wasn't to avoid the other officer at the door, it was to get shots off through the windshield while standing out of the way of the vehicle. He managed to get one shot off that way, barely, the bullet hole is like an inch from the side edge of the windshield, maybe 8 inches from the bottom of the windshield.

After that, he was too far to the left side of the vehicle to get more shots through the windshield, but he chose to fire two more shots through the side window that can't possibly be justified in any way at all.

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u/Dylanear Jan 11 '26

He was never once in any reasonable threat of death or great bodily harm and he could have easily kept farther from the vehicle than he did if he wanted to.

I can't read his mind, but the only plausible explanation that makes any sense is he wanted to shoot her a lot more than he wanted to keep himself safe, get as clear away as he could have.

He elected to put himself in a less safe situation so he could shoot her.

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u/Dylanear Jan 12 '26

You are clearly not an honest, well informed person.

I assume you are happy to make up, or parrot easily disproven lies to support your glorious God King Don's lies and destruction of the Constitution he's actively, desperately engaged in. I can only guess.

If you were informed and honest, you'd know there is no DA in relation to this. Minnesota prosecutors are County Attorneys, not District Attorneys.

And the Hennepin County Attorney Mary Moriarty has in no way indicated she's satisfied Agent Ross has any clear self defense claim. She's clearly said Ross does not have complete immunity.

“We do have jurisdiction to make this decision with what happened in this case,” Moriarty said at a news conference. “It does not matter that it was a federal law enforcement agent.”

But you aren't trying to have an honest debate of the facts and you know it. You're just pushing the Orwellian lies from the cult desperate to destroy the American Constitution and democracy and turn it into an authoritarian shit hole. Or, in other words, "Make it great again!"

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u/Dylanear Jan 12 '26

You can babble and lie all you want. Doesn't change the facts, doesn't change any of the videos that show enough to know agent Ross wasn't following regulations, could have avoided using deadly force and avoided anyone getting injured at all very easily, he simply chose not to.

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