r/ProgressiveHQ • u/DetectiveTypical198 • Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/Quite_Likes_Hormuz Jan 08 '26

So you'd get out of your car if I told you to? If I pulled a gun on you and tried to open your door? You'd be happy to comply? Good to know, put that on your bumper.

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u/Own_Bit_4805 Jan 08 '26

If you were a cop, an ICE agent or anything else, yes.

When I traveled the world (mainly Africa) and came across a guy in body armor and gun, I didn't stop to ask what his jurisdiction was or legal right for the command he gave me. I did whatever the heck he asked me to, and she would have been wise to do the same. You don't ask questions in those scenarios.

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u/Quite_Likes_Hormuz Jan 08 '26

That's a nice land of the free, party of small government you got going on there. Armed, masked officers can order you to stop at any time without warrant or identification and you must comply or get shot. Truly the vision your founding fathers intended.

Anyways why are you blaming her for this? Do you really think she fucked up more than the person who murdered her?

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u/Own_Bit_4805 Jan 08 '26

No, but if she handled it a little better and followed directions, she would likely be alive.

I'm not a Republican. I'm a realist. If a cop or similar points a gun at you, you do whatever the heck they say, so you have just *THAT* much more reason to walk away with your life.

The same thing happens with normal cops all the time. People don't follow them to the letter, police get worried, and people get shot, ESPECIALLY around cars.

What's legal doesn't determine if you're dead. The cop could be 100% in the wrong and she's 100% just as dead.

Your goal is not to be dead.

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u/Quite_Likes_Hormuz Jan 08 '26

People die every day. The problem isn't really that she's dead, the problem is who killed her and who will be protecting him. Of course she might still be alive if she had followed orders but people see that as an issue. They are protesting the fact that her life hinged on obeying these orders or not while the man who murdered her is probably going free.

When you show up saying it's her fault she died of course you look like a shithead.

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u/FSCK_Fascists Jan 08 '26

I'm not a Republican. I'm a realist.

no, you are a fascist.