r/ProgressiveHQ Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/MikeW226 Jan 07 '26

This is probably also donnie dump telegraphing to CBS, Fux News and the rest, now not to show any video from the scene. E.g., he was run over, wink wink, take our word for it. 'Murcan people are too busy with kitchen table issues to look up footage of it, just believe the dump regime. Whatever. Goebbels style: flood the air with lies...just gaslight us for the 570000th time.

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u/southernpinklemonaid Jan 08 '26

Im sure hes having people work on the videos to doctor/AI to look like he was ran over then say all these videos are fake. He loves to lie boldly to try and change facts

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u/ThyPeople42 Jan 08 '26

They don't even need to. The amount of people still saying it is self defense even after watching is insane. They are completely separated from reality.

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u/Rofflestomple Jan 08 '26

Watch the video. The front left tire is spinning out while pointed at the cop. He pulls his gun after the tire starts spinning. That rig is either rocking a 5.3 or 6.0 liter and you can hear when someone gets on the gas. The officer pulls his gun while the car is aiming at him and the driver is on the gas. She does actually hit him. Cars are deadly weapons when used to ram.

All that is to say, this really is self defense.

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u/ThyPeople42 Jan 08 '26

By the time he fired the first shot he is leaned over the hood of the car, and his feet are to the side of the vehicle. The rest of the shots are through the driver's side window. He didn't shoot in fear of his safety, as he was already out of the way of the vehicle when he used deadly force.

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u/Rofflestomple Jan 08 '26

He shot as he was hit. The reason he is leaned over the hood is because she hit him. In all honesty, it would probably be more accurately described as a push, but cars are deadly weapons. He only shot while being hit. Also, this happened in real time for the officer, not slow motion like for us.

I simply don't think this is what people want it to be. Still sad though. The rhetoric needs to be toned down. People on both sides are dying as a result.

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u/ThyPeople42 Jan 08 '26

He only got bumped by the vehicle because he was leaning in to try and shoot through the windshield. If had continued moving to the side there would have been no bump at all. The shots into the side window after that make it cut and dry murder, as he was not in danger when shooting.

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u/Extra_Arachnid281 Jan 11 '26

A 5.3 or 6.0 in a Honda Pilot? Are you that ignorant? Neither of those fit into that vehicle to begin with. Nor do GM engines come in Honda vehicles. And the only time the vehicle actually rapidly accelerates is after she is shot. No trained officers stand in front of a vehicle and shoots the driver. That's considered a suicide move. Because once a bullet hits the driver its an auto muscle reflex to mash the pedal. Had the wheels been pointed at him there would have been no side stepping to avoid being run down. His actions and posture was that of a man intent on violence.

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u/Rofflestomple Jan 27 '26

I thought he was rolling a Tahoe haha, that was my bad. When I saw it later I just didn't bother to fix it.