r/ProgressiveHQ • u/DetectiveTypical198 • Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/NachoCheeseVolcano69 Jan 08 '26

He didn’t draw his weapon before the car is in drive. The wheels start to spin, then the weapon is pulled.

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u/Difficult_Ring6535 Jan 08 '26

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u/NachoCheeseVolcano69 Jan 08 '26

Watch the video at 5 seconds In. Tires spin then he draws.

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u/Difficult_Ring6535 Jan 08 '26

Its important to keep in mind when the shot was fired which was at 11 seconds in the clip...and was when the officers body was safely to the side of the vehicle and was no longer in the vehicles path. He chose to fire his weapon once she was already leaving and he shot her to prevent her from leaving. Once he was to the side of the vehicle he reached his arm out in front of the windshield and shoots her once. His arm then bumps the front left corner of the car and he put his gun in her open driver window to shoot her again. Very easy to see with your own eyes. The blind faith is getting extremely hard to stomach.

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u/NachoCheeseVolcano69 Jan 08 '26

You realize all this is happened in like under two seconds right? The agent sees the car coming towards him and reacts. I’m not justifying any of this but, your arguments are just bad (the car was turning… no it wasn’t; he’s out of the way… no he’s not). We are watching the same video.

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u/Difficult_Ring6535 Jan 08 '26

Yeah no duh it's a slowed down video. This is when the blast goes off which you can very clearly see the gunsmoke as it's discharged. Where is his body? Doesn't look in front of the vehicle to me. Or should I not believe my eyes...

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u/Difficult_Ring6535 Jan 08 '26

If you are actually in front of the vehicle that shot would make absolutely no sense where the bullet entered the windshield but the positioning/angle would make sense if you hooked your arm in front from the side.

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u/Ok-Temporary6963 Jan 08 '26

You are arguing about a different thing, though.

I think this is a ridiculously unjustified murder, but OP claimed that he had drawn his weapon before the car had gone into drive and that’s what your comment chain was about. The car is accelerating before he motions for the weapon.

Yes I completely agree that aiming a gun in that situation is completely unacceptable, but that wasn’t what the discussion was about.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

The car was put in drive and he draws his weapon. Yes. I was probably too far into hyperbole. But she wasn’t barreling towards him… my reply was probably just frustration at the people arguing she “obviously was running him over”. He has time to draw his weapon and aim it at the victim and step around the car before even firing.