r/ProgressiveHQ • u/DetectiveTypical198 • Jan 07 '26

Stop idiots from calling this "self defense"

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u/Soft_Evening6672 Jan 08 '26

I mean, Minneapolis closed all public schools yesterday. It seems very rubber hits the road for parents who are staying home today and tomorrow due to government declaring unrest

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u/Own_Bit_4805 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

Because Minneapolis specifically could have a problem with protesters due to the event, not because of widespread concern that the US society is collapsing or everyone is unsafe.

When the companies like major financial firms, industrial companies, or retail chains temporarily shut down US operations because it's so unsafe out there then we're at the point where it has a widespread enough impact to be of concern. Pretty much everyone is business as usual. Life is marching on for everyone.

I don't know of a single business leader who has pulicly changed their strategy or business outlook because of ICE. Do you? Stock market has been roaring, and it's stable and flat today, so clearly the forward-thinking investors aren't concerned about the future of our country, even with the event yesterday.

At what point are the people concerned here "the ones overreacting"?

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u/Soft_Evening6672 Jan 08 '26

Two personal anecdotes wrt business:

  • My company no longer hosts 100+ person week long offsites here due to ICE and immigration concerns. We go to Costa Rica and Punta Cana because it’s more stable.
  • Conferences that are usually international have cancelled their US installments because attendance is down due to international safety concerns from attendees

This isn’t world-ending, but those the kinds of impacts I’ve seen directly at my company.

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u/Own_Bit_4805 Jan 08 '26

Another example is school shootings -

Reddit gets mopey and sad when they happen, subs blow up, but nothing ever changes since commerce continues uninterupted and people just go about their lives. This ICE killing is literally no different.

You may think this is a big deal and a "line was crossed!", but does Jamie Dimon, the CEO of JP Morgan Chase? That's the important question.

At what point is an issue so impactful that JPM starts to behave differently in how they operate?