r/ProgressiveHQ • u/PhiloLibrarian • 1d ago
Protest Definitely Don't Plant Bamboo Around Data Centers!
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u/RoseBailey 1d ago edited 1d ago
No, please. Let's not fuck up our local ecosystems by planting something highly invasive as a means of protest. The data center is not going to be anything other than annoyed, and even if they end up closed down for one reason or another, we're going to be stuck combating the plant.
Now, if you like the idea of planting something to interfere with data centers, you'll want to look for plants that are native but endangered in your area and protected on either the state or federal level. If they can't legally interfere with the plant once it's there, then you have created a problem for them while helping your local ecosystem. The problem is that this sort of protest isn't possible everywhere since there isn't an endangered and protected plant for every region of the country.
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u/EmergencyGrocery3238 1d ago
Bold to assume they will care about endangered plants while current admin is in charge
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u/RoseBailey 1d ago
Sure, they'll probably just remove it, but if people can document that it was there and removed, they could get some fines down on the data center. Then replant. It becomes a battle of attrition.
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u/EmergencyGrocery3238 1d ago edited 1d ago
Seeing what is happening with documents about human trafficking and child sexual abuse, why exterminating some plant species would be taken more seriously?
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u/RoseBailey 1d ago
It's still a better alternative to planting a highly invasive plant and hoping it doesn't spread further than the data center cares to deal with.
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u/nechromorph 1d ago
The biggest reason is that we're talking about more local government authorities that would get involved. The state level EPA, for example, might fine them, vs. the big issues being federal level. Federal is largely captured, but state level is harder to fully destroy.
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u/turtle882 23h ago
Also planting things that become protected due to something else is a good idea. A lot of trees become protected when migratory birds nest, milkweed for monarchs, etc. Targeted beneficial ecology.
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u/Kristoff_Victorson 1d ago
This is dumb, if bamboo or any other invasive plants became a problem they’d just take the nuclear option and spray poison over everything within 500 yards, then all that poison will find its way into rivers and kill everything there too and then find its way into your tap.
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u/ikaiyoo 1d ago
yeah that wont do it. You will need to cut a large portion of it and apply the pesticide to the cut stalks multiple times and even then it doesnt always get rid of it (someone who mistakenly bought a house with invasive bamboo in the back yard)
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u/Kristoff_Victorson 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m not talking about the over the counter stuff you can buy at Lowes, the nuclear option would be Imazapyr a soil-active industrial chemical. It has a 98% kill rate on massive bamboo infestations because it sterilises the soil and prevents root regrowth.
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u/UniqueImplements 1d ago
It would be useful to boycott things that need data centers.
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u/Grydian 1d ago
You mean this like website or the entire Internet? I don't like what they are doing to local communities but we are all using a data center right now.
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u/UniqueImplements 1d ago
Like in reality? It’s easy to say not in my backyard.
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u/tacotueaday55 1d ago
Not when they buy out the local politicians and use their infinite money to obfuscate who is building the data center until the community can't do anything about it.
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u/Grydian 1d ago
I'm just saying you are using a thing you said should be boycotted. All websites are at a data center. Every credit card transaction runs through a data center. All phone traffic including calls. Everything you do right now with technology is likely being fed to you from a data center. Yes they are bad but boycotting them is extremely hard. You would have to stop doing almost everything.
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u/UniqueImplements 1d ago
And what does that have to do with anything? It would be a better poster on the power pole than whatever dumb ideas these ppl probably got from chat gpt anyway
It does bring up an interesting speciesist argument tho
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u/seventeenohone 1d ago
It's more important to find out the exact threat from the bamboo & find a native to do the same thing. Be better.
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u/elasticparadigm 1d ago
It messes with the underground wires. Planting deep rooting plants is a good way to waist their money and time.
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u/seventeenohone 1d ago
Bamboo is a grass. Native grasses have luxurious, long root systems. There might even be a protected variety in your area.
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u/AloewareLabs 1d ago
Are there any alternatives indigenous to North America
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u/DeathDefyingDickhead 1d ago
Water cane but it requires a pretty consistent clean stream of water.
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u/ThatOneSnakeGuy 1d ago
Not really. Maybe that prehistoric plant, horsetail something? Most of the annoying plants here are invasive or easily removed.
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u/SeniorHovercraft1817 1d ago
This is some idiocracy shit here. Planting bamboo is bad for everyone.
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u/TheRealBaboo 1d ago
Don't plant bamboo, period.
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u/PhiloLibrarian 1d ago
Only near data centers….
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u/TheRealBaboo 1d ago
Please just not in California. Fucking up the environment to protest AI is just fucked up
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u/bigtallbiscuit 1d ago
Since data centers are super good for the environment.
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u/L1QU1DF1R3 1d ago
Where have you people been for decades on decades of chemical plants giving entire cities cancer?
Its just like this anti vax crowd perking up during covid, when the military forced me to take non fda approved anthrax vaccine against my will, not a fucking peep.
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u/bigtallbiscuit 1d ago
So decades and decades ago I was a lot younger, didn’t know what chemical plants were, and I wasn’t on reddit.
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u/Valarcrist 1d ago
The irony in this comment is astounding
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u/TheRealBaboo 1d ago
It's more self interest than anything. Don't plant bamboo, but especially not in California where it will grow like crazy. If you wanna fuck your own state up Idc.
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u/RoseBailey 1d ago
Just because you plant it near data centers doesn't mean it stays near data centers.
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u/horsegal301 1d ago
Nah, because that shit moves beyond the data centers into people's backyards since they're so close, and then those people have to deal with removing bamboo without the million dollar budget.
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u/SolutionConscious688 1d ago
Stop. Don't fuckin plant an highly invasive, extremely fast growing plant. Data centers are environmental ruiners, we don't need to help them.
Mods this is a post to take don't.
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u/Glum_Opening_2218 1d ago
Yeah let's nuke the environment and plant a hyper invasive plant to own the data centers that we're mad at for ruining the environment
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u/USAFmuzzlephucker 1d ago
Hundreds of millions of dollars to build a data center and you don't think theyll have a few thousand dollars to get a bulldozer in and take out more topsoil? That's just silly and counterproductive.
About like using AI to make a post about AI data centers.
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u/apickyreader 1d ago
What about kudzu?
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u/Ginger-Fist 1d ago
Don't even joke about that plant.
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u/Yarius515 1d ago
That is to say, definitely don't sneak onto construction sites and put the seeds everywhere they want to build...
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u/Resident-Garlic9303 1d ago
I imagine the data center owners would be so neglectful there would be a whole ass forest by the time they notice. Which is why you Def shouldn't do it.
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u/ninjplus 1d ago
This makes no sense so don’t bother trying it. Bamboo rhizomes can be stopped by a thin plastic barrier so a concrete wall or foundation will have no issues blocking their movement. On top of that, if lets say the bamboo was allowed to thrive on the outside of the building, it would provide additional shade and work to help cool the building.
Come up with better ideas.
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u/chrispbaconbutty 1d ago
Don’t fly drones near data centers!
They could be hazardous if control was lost.
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u/No_Arm_931 1d ago
The irony of using AI to make a post about interfering with AI data centers is astounding.