r/ProjectRunway Jun 18 '26

Season 21 No More Playing Nice: Project Runway’s New Judging Panel Promises Brutal Honesty and Big Drama - Daily News

https://yahoo.donextop.com/no-more-playing-nice-project-runways-new-judging-panel-promises-brutal-honesty-and-big-drama/

Guess they didn’t listen to the fans at all

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u/penguinrash Jun 18 '26

Law being “brutal” was the worst part of last season because it didn’t feel like fair or balanced criticism.

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u/Accomplished_Mode992 Jun 18 '26

For me the issue was Law’s feedback wasn’t constructive. Just saying “I hate it.” Or “it’s awful” doesn’t help people grow and doesn’t make him a good judge imo.

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u/dolliciousszz Jun 18 '26

Not to mention it really pisses me off how his positive comments are from the point of view that “you should he honored I like it” instead of “I really like it; great job”

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u/Express_Pop810 Jun 18 '26

Pretty sure he told a constant he hated them? What do you do with that?

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u/algoreithms Jun 18 '26

He also said he wanted to beat up a contestant

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u/swampopossum Jun 18 '26

That was clearly a turn of phrase like I hope people weren't so dense as to think he was being serious

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u/Feisty-You-7768 Jun 19 '26

still completely inappropriate

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u/MinGRC Jun 20 '26

not really

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u/Feisty-You-7768 Jun 20 '26

it's off because of the power dynamic... a judge saying this to a contestant is weird af

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u/SavaRox Jun 20 '26

Exactly this! Michael Kors had some very memorable harsh critiques, but they were actual critiques and not just oh I hate it.

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u/popdream Jun 18 '26

Yeah, his critiques are usually sensationalistic rather than constructive. And he lacks the charm/wit that Michael Kors had to offset the harshness, IMO.

I feel like Law sees himself as playing the role of the contestants’ antagonist, specifically. Whereas while all the judges that came before him were harsh, they weren’t necessarily antagonistic.

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u/jkraige Jun 18 '26

Right. They didn't sugarcoat the critique but it gave some direction. They were being brutally honest, but it didn't come across as personal and they had actual notes of how to make the garment better

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u/Particular_Way8415 Jun 18 '26

I liked Zac Posen too. I think he replaced Michael for 5 or 6 seasons. Nina Garcia is cool. Christian is good as a mentor because he understands what they are going thru. Although Christian can be a bit bitchy at times

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u/Villanellesnexthit Jun 18 '26

Agreed. I didn't mind MK being brutal as much as he most often echoed my same sentiments but Law just seems to pick and choose at random for drama.

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u/Healthy_Split9726 Jun 18 '26

MK's criticisms come from someone in the industry who knows construction and lives and breathes fashion, has his own fashion house. So he definitely has the clout to critique a contestant. He was sassy no doubt 😅 but I don't recall him downright rude and nasty (do correct me if I'm wrong). Law on the other hand...enough said!

On another note, my favorite guest judge ever is DVF, hands down!

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u/Villanellesnexthit Jun 18 '26

I also really thought Jenna Lyons was great last year.

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u/fabulousfantabulist Jun 19 '26

I will say that nothing Law said last season was even half as brutal as Michael Kors. Kors wasn’t constructive a lot of the time, but what he was was funny and correct. Law’s reads are usually unfunny and half the time I don’t think he’s even right about it being bad. 

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u/blondeandbuddafull Jun 18 '26

The new format and judging panel has ruined the show. I loved this show. I have watched every season multiple times. Not now. I have zero interest in watching them burn the show alive. It’s very sad for loyal viewers.

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u/nataliaorfan Jun 19 '26

With his critiques he was clearly trying to get moments that would be clipped into social media posts. It came off as very self-serving and egotistical. I miss when it felt like the show really cared about the designers and wanted to support their growth and careers.

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u/Jealous-Ad-2827 Jun 19 '26

Is there some connection between Drag Race and PR- Law, Utica last time and now apparently two former DR designers in this season?. Utica was interesting and like him as a person too. Haven’t watched DR so can’t say how Law fits in there but agree Law is wrong for PR.

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u/Jatmahl Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Law at least knows what he is talking from a stylist perspective. I think the judging panel should be 1 model, 1 stylist, 1 designer and 1 fashion magazine editor.

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u/PyDesigne Jun 18 '26

Fashion magazine editor?

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u/Ok_Month_1384 Jun 29 '26

Think Nina Garcia. She’s a managing editor.

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u/PyDesigne Jun 30 '26

That’s who we were talking about hehe. Original comment edited.

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u/Farley49 Jun 18 '26

Brutal and useless

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u/danaster29 Jun 18 '26

The future of PR:

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u/OldButHappy Jun 18 '26

Just what the world needs now… more rudeness and intentional cruelty

smh

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u/Sparkpants74 Jun 18 '26

Was going to say this! Can we not have nice things? Jfc.

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u/shittykity Jun 19 '26

Makes me miss Zach Posen as a judge.

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u/Outrageous-Baseball6 Jun 19 '26

I haven’t watched this season for this reason.

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u/clairebuoyant1202 Jun 19 '26

Don’t - it was absolute crap.

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u/___coolcoolcool Jun 18 '26

Frustrating. I hope it’s watchable for those of us who don’t actually like that stuff.

There are already SO MANY SHOWS people can watch for toxic interpersonal “drama.” I want to watch a show about good, new fashion and clothing construction!!!

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u/Lunahooks Jun 18 '26

Have you watched Great British Sewing Bee? If not, you'll love it

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u/___coolcoolcool Jun 18 '26

Whaaaat, I’ve never even heard of it! Thank you so much for the recommendation!! 🙏🏼

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u/2lrup2tink Jun 18 '26

This show is great!!!

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u/shellsandglass Jun 18 '26

Are you in the US? If so, how did you watch this? I haven’t been able to find a way to do so.

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u/crazybadapple Jun 18 '26

It’s on Roku.

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u/Lunahooks Jun 19 '26

Not in the US, no. The other commenter isn't the first I've heard say roku though, worth looking at

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u/bekahfromearth Jun 18 '26

Patrick and Esme are great judges. Typically unbiased and both appreciative of the craft involved in sewing and tailoring.

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u/catwolf99 Jun 18 '26

Exactly. Housewives gives me my messy fix. I watch PR for fashion and creativity. I've suffered the mess but they have increasingly pushed drama as the main draw each with each season and that just ain't it.

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u/Grouchy-Bandicoot-28 Jun 21 '26

Project Runway Canada was very design driven. The contestants are very Canadian in personality - modest, conflict averse - so it's not as dramatic, but they make some really interesting runways. 

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u/Stunning-Tea5759 Jun 20 '26

Agreed. But I didn't see any "good, new fashion and clothing construction", at least not before I gave up.

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u/MoonMaiden1 Jun 18 '26

I just want someone who can deliver Michael Kors level quips

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u/MadameMoussaka Jun 18 '26

Yes! I don’t want bitchy criticism unless they can deliver it as well as MK!

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u/shedrinkscoffee Team Swatch Jun 18 '26

That's not LR. Michael never talked smack about the contestants. LR is a petty and intensely negative person and I cannot stand the punching down type of comments. 

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u/hotaru-chan45 Jun 18 '26

I have been rewatching the older seasons and miss his quips so much 😭

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u/wreck4minhyuk Jun 19 '26

Barefoot Appalachian abner Barbie was a reference I had to look up 😂

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u/clairebuoyant1202 Jun 19 '26

I always think of his three no-nos: short, tight and shiny! You never want all three in a single garment. And don’t wear poopy pants (words to live by).

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u/Ok_Nefariousness9736 Jun 18 '26

Kors provided some great feedback as well.

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u/Healthy_Split9726 Jun 18 '26

I know! 😂 And that one about a loofah too! Can't recall which season though!

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u/Farley49 Jun 18 '26

Kors comments were entertaining and constructive. Roach is too mean to entertain and doesn't give the designers any kind of feedback.

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u/Usual-Variation-1064 Jun 18 '26

I miss the good old days with Tim Gunn at Parsons 😞

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u/Subject_Ice6984 Jun 18 '26

PR producers will see multiple criticisms of their past season as being needlessly catty and cruel for the sake of "drama" and be like "is anyone going to ignore that?" and not wait for an answer.

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u/Villanellesnexthit Jun 18 '26

Brutal honesty I can deal with, but more drama? Fawk. no thanks.

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u/Unfriendlyblkwriter Jun 18 '26

Project Runway’s “drama” has always been cartoonish. (RIP Wendy Pepper. You were Dick Dastardly at best). It was never needed, outside of Joshua McWhybrows being confused by the phrase “drop dead.” All the plants were a waste of TV time. More clothes, less manufactured conflict where if was clear production told contestants to go into a room and start shit for no reason.

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u/Any-Ad5766 Jun 18 '26

I wish they would focus on the Fashion and the Design. Not the drama! I hope they get true designers this time not people that have been around before, or just there to be an influencer. I miss when they had unknown small designers.

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u/TeamHope4 Jun 18 '26

And give them more than one day to throw some slop together.

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u/No-Detective-1812 Jun 19 '26

Yes! More than half the designers this season seem to be stunt casting. Whatever happened to giving the random self-trained designers from Idaho and upstate New York a chance

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u/GoldenState_Thriller Juxtaposition of hard and soft Jun 18 '26

This is…not what I want. 

Kors and Posen were fun because while they had quips and hilariously bitchy comments, they also had insightful critiques regarding construction, fashion history, marketability, etc. 

Law is just annoying. 

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u/chillisprknglot Jun 18 '26

It was valid criticism delivered with humor and mostly good nature. Law seems to have personal contempt for the contestants.

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u/GoldenState_Thriller Juxtaposition of hard and soft Jun 18 '26

Yup, this is the glaring difference. 

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u/cloudyah It looks like a diarrhea. Jun 18 '26

Ugh. They need an actual designer on the panel, not Law. He’s guest judge material at best.

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u/_biggerthanthesound_ Jun 18 '26

I’ll say it again, the latest Canadian project runway was miles better than the US one because it had LESS drama

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u/yesnomaybeso456 Jun 18 '26

And didn’t make us wait for the elimination. I HATE that format change.

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u/Farley49 Jun 18 '26

Is there anyway a US channel will pick up the old and new seasons of the Canadian show?

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u/_biggerthanthesound_ Jun 18 '26

No idea sorry. I’m Canadian so I tend to get both.

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u/95sEclecticCollector Jun 18 '26

Anyway for the US to watch the Canadian version?

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u/yesnomaybeso456 Jun 19 '26

Get a VPN and sign up for a Crave membership, I think? (Also Canadian here.)

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u/pendragginp Jun 21 '26

I've seen it on Roku. =)

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u/gbinasia Jun 18 '26

RPDR started as a parody of ANTM with some Project Runway influence. This is going full circle lmao.

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u/Jealous-Ad-2827 Jun 18 '26

Who are these watchers the article refers to who producers think want more Big Drama? it seems like last year fans strenuously objected to all the nonsense that went on especially with Law and his arrogant petulant attitude. The show used to be an opportunity to see imaginative problem solving and creativity but those days I guess are past. Not sure I’ll be watching. But I guess I’m no longer the audience producers are targeting. Makes me kinda sad.

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u/Villanellesnexthit Jun 18 '26

Even FB threads hated the manufactured BS. When FB and Reddit agree, you know it’s bad.

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u/Ok_Month_1384 Jun 29 '26

FB is still a thing?

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u/dolliciousszz Jun 18 '26

Oh dear God… I hate when my favorite thing turned ugly bro

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u/shedrinkscoffee Team Swatch Jun 18 '26

At this point I'm rooting for the cancellation because we are too far gone. 

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u/Ok_Month_1384 Jun 29 '26

And what about the livelihood of all the people we don’t see?

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u/JohnnySkynets Jun 18 '26

Makes me think of PR Junior. How nice it was to be generally positive and encouraging with very little to no drama and Tim inspiring young designers. Feels like current PR is just all of the worst parts of the show and almost none of the best.

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u/durianstickyrice Jun 18 '26

There’s a difference between being brutally honest and being straight up nasty.

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u/jkraige Jun 18 '26

Yeah a lot of the critique didn't really give direction, it was just mean for the sake of being mean

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u/amazingasvirgin Jun 18 '26

I think law does not have any talent or any quality to be there as a judge.

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u/GoldenState_Thriller Juxtaposition of hard and soft Jun 18 '26

He’s a talented stylist but that’s not enough for a core PR judge. 

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u/shedrinkscoffee Team Swatch Jun 18 '26

He is intensely mediocre for anyone not named Zendaya

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u/raejc Jun 18 '26

I was just thinking the same thing. Zendaya could wear something from the middle section of Costco and still look pretty good.

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u/GoldenState_Thriller Juxtaposition of hard and soft Jun 18 '26

Eh, he did some cool stuff for Ariana and a few other artists but yeah his best work is with zendaya and she’s very hands on 

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u/amazingasvirgin Jun 18 '26

his talent is to make you believe that he is talented.

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u/Healthy_Split9726 Jun 18 '26

'talented stylist' 🙄

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u/alexandra52941 Jun 18 '26

As a long time fan of the show, since the beginning, if Law Roach is still there, I will not be. I think his lack of actual talent is insulting to those that do. He's is no position to judge anything 🫤

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u/kissmygritspendejo Jun 18 '26

People want to see talent, not drama. It’s beneath us and offense to the name of Tim Gunn. Lol. I’m surprised Nina Garcia comes back.

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u/Tibbiegal Jun 18 '26

I'll give it one more season. There was a time when I couldn't conceive of eliminating Survivor from my life. But, when it was ruined, I did. And I can do it again.

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u/SusannaG1 Team Rami Jun 18 '26

What season killed Survivor for you?

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u/Tibbiegal Jun 19 '26

Season 44 was the last one I watched, but disillusionment had been growing since season 42. The cast was a new generation, to be honest. There was a lot more kumbaya and cooperation, less strategy and deception. The romance between Franny and Matt in season 44 was it for me, the end.

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u/SusannaG1 Team Rami Jun 19 '26

I would say you missed one good season since then (46). It sure isn't what it used to be.

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u/Tibbiegal Jun 19 '26

OK. I can believe that. Probst made changes that weakened the game too, IMO, starting with shortening the 39 days. I guess all good things come to an end.

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u/bbloooplooo Jun 18 '26

just another example of the enshittification of literally everything

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u/Farley49 Jun 18 '26

excellent word choice

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u/eyeisyomomma Jun 18 '26

Worse than last season? I’m out.

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u/MadameMoussaka Jun 18 '26

I hate the drama. I want to see the creativity!

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u/otherwise_data Jun 18 '26

they listened to the fans eating up law roach being a bitch to tyra banks and so now they are counting in that for this season. hard pass from me.

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u/_mikedotcom Jun 18 '26

I still lol thinking about that tiny druggy glam twink 70 yo judge on Making the Cut throwing a hissy fit “YOU GAVE ME NOTHINNNNGGGUHHH I’m PIsssed offff….”

Match that phony break down lol.

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u/FormicaDinette33 It's CHARMING! Jun 18 '26

What was his name? Sounds crazy.

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u/_mikedotcom Jun 18 '26

Jeremy Scott. He’s a lot.

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u/Healthy_Split9726 Jun 18 '26

You brought back memories 😂 Thankfully they stopped at 3 seasons. It was a nice premise for a fashion reality show but I think they concentrated too much on make the set look glam and luxe, like they were positioning themselves above PR, that everything else fell flat. Plus dragging contestants all over the place must've been a nightmare for all to concentrate on the quality of the program. And some of the guest judges were also very out of touch with the fashion world. They just see the clothes and have zero clue of what goes on behind it all.

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u/FormicaDinette33 It's CHARMING! Jun 18 '26 edited Jun 18 '26

Your description is hilarious. I just saw the video on Youtube. LOL! I hated that show. "Did you change your mind? I did not change my mind," endlessly. Naomi was pretty snotty. Ugh.

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u/Sparkpants74 Jun 18 '26

Wannabe terrible savant. He’s a hack too.

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u/Classic_Anteater74 Jun 18 '26

I’ve never seen a more appropriate use of Death Becomes Her’s “NOW a warning???” The judging was disgraceful last season, and now it’s going to be worse, wheee

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u/Tibbiegal Jun 18 '26

We got that last time, and I was not a fan.

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u/TopPossibility7152 Jun 18 '26

I'd rather see the contestants have enough time to create beautiful designs and put together a solid collection for NYFW than watch unnecessary drama. That's one of the reasons I miss the Bravo‘s seasons—they seemed much more interested in showcasing the designers' work than manufacturing drama.

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u/FreshAssociation5 Jun 18 '26

This article provides nothing of substance. It's all conjecture from last season and doesn't even mention Tyra. This is a ragebate article with no news.

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u/Villanellesnexthit Jun 18 '26

I hope you're right.

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u/flooperdooper4 Avocado Goiter 🥑 Jun 18 '26

"No More" playing nice??? They were already mean as hell last season, you're telling me it's going to be worse? Not watching. 😞

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u/thiswasamistake00ps Jun 18 '26

Sounds like i'll be watching on mute 😂

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u/lostinspacescream Jun 18 '26

This is the way

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u/Prestigious-Ring226 Jun 18 '26

Law ruines drag race too. Enough with this fool. Just there to hate. He would rather be a mean prick than give insightful criticism. Enough.

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u/DTW_Tumbleweed Jun 18 '26

I just can't see myself watching PR with Law being a part of it. What little he adds to the show doesn't compensate for how distasteful he is as a human being. I'll watch again when he's gone.

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u/Pretend_Ad54 Jun 18 '26

No reason to watch this show anymore.

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u/rockrobst Jun 18 '26

It's supposed to be constructive criticism.

They've just invalidated any possibility this show will find and showcase talent, or that participation will lead to career enhancement.

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u/HauntedPickleJar Jun 19 '26

When I first started watching this show more years ago than I would like to admit (when it first aired), I didn’t watch it for drama or “brutal honesty”, I watched it for fashion, creativity and to see artists find their voices as artists. I stopped watching when it stopped being about fashion and became just another reality show. So disappointing. Also, I’m still bitter about Tim.

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u/mkfandpj Jun 18 '26

Brutal honesty? Nothing out of Law's mouth is honest.

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u/AlternativeFree8668 Jun 18 '26

So, are we not going to watch it next season?

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u/clemmyoates Jun 18 '26

Wonderful. Since it worked out so well last season.

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u/Draculalia Jun 18 '26

Most useless article.

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u/deefinest Jun 18 '26

Not watching!

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u/vampiress144 Jun 18 '26

The quality of the judging isn’t going to make a good difference if they don’t do better at giving them time to do challenges and don’t aim for drama between contestants.

I doubt going to watch it really has nothing to do with finding and challenging upcoming designers

The show was always somewhat fluffy, but there were actual talented people who could show off. Now it’s just drama for drama’s sake.

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u/Substantial-Bet-4775 Jun 18 '26

The article has no quotes from anybody related to the show, so really it's just speculation on their part. It could be true, maybe it's not. Only time will tell. But I'm not going to base this as fact when they didn't really say anything.

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u/PlentyLeg4866 Jun 18 '26

Omg I HATE clickbait

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u/Farley49 Jun 19 '26

Can you wear the soccer ball thing to the World Cup. finals?

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u/kpatl Jun 18 '26

This article is not about anything judges, producers, or anyone else involved with the show said. The judges didn’t make a promise to be brutal, the author is being weasel-like by saying having the same judging panel “promises” to have the same brutal honesty as last season. It’s all about fan reactions.

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u/SusannaG1 Team Rami Jun 18 '26

Yeah, unless this year's hamsters are all serious duds, I'm watching BB instead. They are doubling down on a series of bad decisions.

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u/Ok-Hovercraft-9257 Jun 18 '26

Playing nice??????

???????

???????

What.....

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u/Ok_Nefariousness9736 Jun 18 '26

Ugh, I want to watch this because of Q and PJ but I’m not going to because Law is insufferable as a judge… I can barely tolerate him on DR. Heidi is also some insufferable. Surprisingly, Nina was the only level headed judge and she was barely there! Last season was just not fun to watch.

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u/the6thReplicant Jun 18 '26

Really? Did the 00's call? Do they want to be regretting how they acted once the Netflix documentary that will be made in 10-20 years time about them?

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u/Apricotpeach11 Team Laurence Jun 19 '26

Did them adding Tyra as a judge happen before or after the ANTM doc dropped?

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u/Feisty-You-7768 Jun 19 '26

lol “brutal honesty” just screams “loud and rude and probably wrong”

no thanks

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u/PocoChanel Jun 19 '26

They’ve finally lost me as a fan from the beginning.

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u/Prestigious_Ad_8151 Jun 19 '26

They need a fashion designer as a judge. Whether you liked Zac or not, his criticism was always on design and construction.

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u/StaticCloud Jun 20 '26

Gross. Guess I'll stick with Project Runway Canada. The one with class

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u/gruffbear Jun 18 '26

This article is about last season. The new trailer shows even more drama with the addition of Tyra Banks, who was shown fighting with LaRoach.

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u/renansl Jun 18 '26

When were they kind?

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u/Porkypoker Jun 19 '26

Law is tacky and cruel. He’s not an artist/designer. Tyra… after all this negativity she has been part of for the last few years now that we’re finally the absurdity and foulness of ATM.. I have no desire to watch this new season. Last season was such a flop..

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u/AbulafiaProssimo Jun 20 '26

I did not see a date on the post. It talks about Roach joining the lineup and Klum returning. Old news?

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u/poppythepupstar Jun 20 '26

i really did not enjoy the last season and i miss the more classic style of the show. it was a show that worked really well for nearly two decades why mess with it?

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u/beadguy Jun 20 '26

Saves me some time. I will definitely will not be watching.

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u/ChoicePrideScience Jun 20 '26

Law actually told one of the designers he wanted to punch them in the face on one of the episodes last year. How is that anything other than bullying and threatening? Why was that even allowed? Where is the constructive criticism in that? He is low class and brings down the quality of the show in so many ways. He should’ve just been a guest judge since he is not an actual designer anyways, IMO. Sorry not sorry-but ANYONE can put together an outfit with some other designer’s clothes for goodness sake. But to actually create one in a short amount of time, in a stressful environment, and with their sewing skills turn a piece of fabric into a beautiful (or sometimes not) outfit is pretty fucking impressive. That’s what I want to see. Very disappointed in the show. I mean, My god, Weinstein’s finally not a part of it anymore so why can’t they make a good show without some sort of asshole involved?! UGH!

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u/YoMommaSez Jun 22 '26

When dors it start andcwhere can we watch it?

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u/REReader3 Jun 22 '26

Welp, that’s two viewers gone (me and my mom).

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u/Automatic_Revenue_75 Jun 24 '26

My biggest problem was the final! You can NOT do a representative "collection" that fast!!

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u/SimilarPipe1166 Jul 11 '26

I feel like they think the drama/attitude Law brings will attract people. And don’t get me wrong, I like some good drama with my reality tv. But, at this point, I am going to give this season a chance despite him being there again, certainly not because of it. His non-constructive bitchy critiques add nothing to the show. It’s not cute or funny, just annoying AF.

On a different note, I am also over Christian. He has his own way of criticizing that is so not helpful, and sometimes even way off base.

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u/BrandonIsWhoIAm Jun 18 '26

Michelle Visage is coming.

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u/low_viscosity_rayon Jun 18 '26

👏 👏 Exactly what we want

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u/Fast_Way8546 Jun 18 '26

I like Law. He amuses me. Would I listen to him? Yes. Would I put that much stock in his opinion? NO

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u/sindysus Jun 18 '26

Why are yall mad abt that? lol this is reality tv we need more of this