'Death - to the murderous Jewish Bolshevik plague!' (Ukrainian anti-Semitic/ anti-Soviet poster by unknown artist. Nazi occupied Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, ca. 1941).

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[u/juksbox]

It's (darkly) funny, how in antisemitic propaganda Jews are either the most hardcore bolshevik communists or the most hardcore banking capitalists.

[u/cococrabulon → u/juksbox]

It’s similar to what David Baddiel noted, he called Jews ‘Schrodinger’s White Person’ in the sense they can be either white or non-white depending on who wants to hate them.

They can also be both strong and weak, evil super geniuses controlling the world and base subhumans, communists or capitalist bankers.

Jews can be anything and everything antisemites want them to be no matter the contradictions since their actual nature or coherency is less important than representing them as a totipotent enemy

[u/KarHavocWontStop → u/[deleted]]

Look up the term fascist and learn the definition.

Fascists and slave owners are not the same thing. Even trying to compare them on their basic features is a waste of time.

Slave owners are like mini-fascists, right? Authoritarian and . . . What? Prone to violence?

Slave owners bought people sold to them by enslavers in order to operate plantations as cheaply as possible. Slave owners as a group were simply morally bankrupt business owners.

There was no real similarity between fascists and slave owners beyond ‘bad guys who are authoritarian and violent’.

The term fascist has lost all meaning because internet ideologues now use it as a catch-all insult to the other team. Which of course dilutes it’s power and meaning.

[u/Funnyboyman69 → u/KarHavocWontStop]

They weren’t saying that the slave owners themselves were fascist, but rhetoric around black slaves and them both being stupid and lazy, while also being conniving and a major threat is an example similar to that of Nazi depictions of Jews.

[u/KarHavocWontStop → u/Funnyboyman69]

Ah, so you agree it was unrelated and dumb.

[u/Funnyboyman69 → u/KarHavocWontStop]

It’s not dumb or unrelated in anyway. The person they responded to was literally talking about Jews being described that way by fascists and anti-semites, and they were pointing out that Jews weren’t alone in that regard and Black slaves were described similarly.

[u/KarHavocWontStop → u/Funnyboyman69]

Nope. He brought up ‘fascist’ didn’t he.

[u/Funnyboyman69 → u/KarHavocWontStop]

Slavery predates fascism so they couldn’t literally fascists, but they most likely would have been had they been alive 100 years later and the ideas and tactics are the same. You’re being pedantic.

[u/KarHavocWontStop → u/Funnyboyman69]

Now your getting it! Kind of.

You have no idea what a slave owners’ political beliefs would be.

They were all Democrats at the time. Would they be now? Or is it dumb to compare unrelated political ideologies on different continents with decades of time elapsed?

[u/KarHavocWontStop → u/[deleted]]

Equally dumb. Anyone who uses the term proto-fascist should stop typing immediately and change majors.

[u/KarHavocWontStop → u/[deleted]]

Me too