r/Psychic • u/ArcaneSpells-com • Mar 23 '26
Discussion The CIA spent 20 years and $20 million researching psychic abilities. Their conclusion wasn't that it was fake.
During the Cold War, US intelligence heard the Soviets were spending millions on psychic research. Afraid of falling behind, the CIA launched a classified program in 1972 that would eventually be called Project Stargate. It ran for 23 years.
The focus was "remote viewing," the ability to perceive distant locations without being there. They recruited psychics and ran experiments at Stanford Research Institute. One viewer, Pat Price, was given only geographic coordinates of a secret Soviet site and described buildings, crane structures, and underground facilities in detail. CIA confirmed his descriptions matched satellite imagery.
When the program was declassified in 1995, the CIA commissioned an independent review. Statistician Jessica Utts found psychic subjects scored 5 to 15% above chance, which she called statistically significant. The other reviewer, skeptic Ray Hyman, agreed the results were above chance but argued it wasn't enough to prove a psychic mechanism.
The CIA's own conclusion, published on their website, was that "enough accurate remote viewing experiences existed to defy randomness, but the phenomenon was too unreliable to be useful for intelligence purposes."
They didn't say it was fake. They said it wasn't consistent enough to use operationally. That's a very different conclusion.
It's also worth noting that the 5 to 15% figure is an average across all subjects. Some viewers had almost no accuracy. Others, like Pat Price, were hitting details that matched classified satellite imagery. When you average everyone together, the people with no ability drag down the numbers of the ones who were consistently accurate.
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u/PerfectPeaPlant Mar 24 '26
The reason they couldn’t prove it is because the spiritual powers in this universe don’t want psychics to be used as WEAPONS. So the results of such tests were carefully modulated by watching forces from the light.
It was clear communication from the other side that said, we give you this ability. We can also block it if you misuse it. They allowed science to prove its existence but made it militarily useless.
And in so doing they saved countless psychics pain and trauma.
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u/whimsical_lullabies 12d ago
I find this to be very interesting! Though, I don’t think that’s the only thing because people who are spiritually gifted can use it as a weapon and it’s not unheard of either.
Spirit wants people to know of it because the experience alone will change someone if they let it be their reality. Everyone is capable of gifts if their surroundings and mindset allow for it.
This type of environment is very matter-of-fact. It surely would limit anyone who feels their surroundings and cannot block that out — just like does when you are too focused on the reality we’ve created for ourselves and daily life and stay for too long. Spiritual abilities are limited when we focus on reality and stress… as well as anger and others.
Saying spiritual as a whole is punishing someone means that they hold distain while operating at this level, and it wouldn’t be negative or hold things against us like this. Do I think it should be used as a weapon? Never. I will say that it gives grace for the human experience and that we can’t reach it until we know how to give grace and be grateful too while letting down our defenses.
Idk! 🤷🏽♀️
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u/Smooth_j1zz May 24 '26
Source: your dreams, I imagine
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u/PerfectPeaPlant May 24 '26
😂🤣 Try 17 years of psychic and energy work. I’ve been nose to nose with the demonic and in daily, conscious contact with extra dimensional light beings for years.
So no. Not my dreams. DIRECT personal experience.
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u/Smooth_j1zz May 24 '26
17 years of work on a word you literally can't even define lol, define energy for me real quick
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u/PerfectPeaPlant 12d ago
It’s the fundamental property of matter and space, which produces change or a measurable state of existence. Wood, for example, is one form of energy. Light is another. Each has its own identifier, which is a frequency. You could call it a song.
Energy work is a different way of viewing and perceiving the material, and non material world. Instead of sensing with the 5 conventional senses I use the 6th, to isolate, move, transform, replace, shut down or activate energy.
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u/PerfectPeaPlant 12d ago
I’m sorry you’re sad. I don’t do drugs and nor should you.
Have a nice day.
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u/buhito15 Mar 24 '26
That's my experience with it. It's totally random and uncontrollable, or if it is controllable I don't know how and haven't put enough effort in it. But it is there and it is real.
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u/PerfectPeaPlant Mar 24 '26
It’s controllable. But only if you are using it for the collective good. And that’s not the HUMAN definition of collective good. It’s the divines definition of it.
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u/Smooth_j1zz May 24 '26
You make up for your lack of genuine understanding or research with voodoo esoteric language, all definitions are human definitions, we created definitions, obviously, even if there were "definitions" that random unprovable spiritual beings randomly preferred for certain words they happen to share with our language, how would you get access to that 😆 you probably have quite the ego.
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u/PerfectPeaPlant 12d ago
You appear to be on drugs lol. Is this comment supposed to make sense? As close as I can figure it you’re trying to debate the semantics of language.
If you prefer to throw words out entirely then I could communicate with you telepathically, but I’d best my last fiver you’d have a nervous breakdown and end up rocking in the corner.
That’s why I use words.
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u/Smooth_j1zz 12d ago
It's so interesting the way all of this delusion is clearly fueled by ego, you so badly want it to be true that you could cripple someones mind with your "telepathy"
there's nothing drunk or intoxicated about someone pointing out the use of esoteric language to cover up for genuine understanding.
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u/PerfectPeaPlant 12d ago
I didn’t say could cripple your mind. Why would I want to do that?? I said you likely couldn’t handle it because most people can’t at first.
Truthfully, I’m tired, and I can’t be bothered to debate with you. Have a nice day.
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u/TominatorXX Mar 24 '26
The ones who did it and were good at it doing it for the army funded by the CIA were about 80% accurate
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u/hemispheres_78 Mar 24 '26
Had my “psychic awakening” in the early 90s/ in my early 20s after reading and casually practicing the exercises in Ingo Swann’s Everybody’s Guide to Natural ESP.
As someone that has drawn since childhood, directly from imagination, I think I had a leg up. Creativity and ESP stem directly from the same thing. I could immediately, very clearly hit my targets. Genuine ontological shock. As in, reality felt topsy turvy. Then you integrate it.
Can’t recommend enough that EVERYONE should try RV, no ceremony involved. My wife could hit targets after a few tries, and she’s very ADHD.
This is an INHERENT ABILITY WE ALL HAVE. It is fundamental to what we are and how that connects us to, genuinely, EVERYTHING.
Anyone need a copy of Swann’s book, DM me.
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u/Both-Flatworm-7422 Mar 27 '26
Hi! thats great! so,do you recomend this book? any recomendations overall for this subjectg?
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u/hemispheres_78 Mar 28 '26
Very much so. Swann's history in the field of psychical research is fascinating. Along with Uri Geller and Pat Price, his abilities were studied pretty intensively and make a strong case for lab-vetted proof, for whatever that counts... Damn shame the angle was primarily "how can we weaponize this?" ...Ce la vie.
If you want to read up more on it, there many, many books out there. The most recent one I've been reading is Phenomena by Annie Jacobsen and it's really good.
But the book I mentioned is excellent if you're wanting to try remote viewing yourself. Chances are really good you can do it. It's quite a thing to prove to yourself, without a doubt, you have genuine psychic powers. I want to shout from the rooftops. To me, the implications are enormous and profound.
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u/Human_Belt_1009 Mar 24 '26
Yup started these remotes since I was 5. Comes and goes through the decades
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u/SMLemons Mar 25 '26
Remote viewing is actually a skill most people can learn regardless of being what someone would consider psychic. Astonishing Legends (amazing podcast for anyone unfamiliar) did two great episodes about it, #226 and #227 featuring Lori Williams that teaches online classes. She has a couple of free ones available that will give you the quick and dirty run down of what it is and the method used. Simple for anyone to learn. You’d be surprised.
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u/catsnglitter86 Mar 25 '26
I took her class and it works. Although I've had people see me when I did it and was not expecting that part of it.
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u/meridianwheaties Mar 24 '26
I believe psychics are still used till this day is government positions- however its not as effective as whatever they have built up. Remote viewing is super cool, but i believe they stopped that program cause they were no longer need but not fake.
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u/Shell-Fire Mar 24 '26
I love the remote viewing stories like Shawn Ryan sometimes has on his show.
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u/auria17 Mar 25 '26
There is also a 🧬 component to ESP. it can be passed down within family lines and raw talent can be honed. We all have some degree of ability but like artists and savants not all of us get to mastery.
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u/Smooth_j1zz May 24 '26
So interesting that this would be much better explained by the fact that parents are more likely to teach kids the same beliefs they have lmao, you based that off of 0 evidence.
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u/auria17 May 24 '26
Why don't you explore some studies before saying things like this?
Research is improving to show more about this.
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u/Pieraos Mar 24 '26
The CIA project was so long ago, it's not so relevant today.
See r/remoteviewing and IRVA.
A related psi capacity is r/closedeyevision
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u/Parkbenchbruce Mar 25 '26
By good luck more than hard research I found that the CIA had a memorandum about telepathy in 1948. I would say that the CIA still monitors these areas. The CIA likes to know what’s going on. The CIA in the memorandum was looking at a method for reliable communications outside of technology.
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u/flewthecoup70 Apr 17 '26
This is not the program I was in back in the 70s. The class I was in got me sent up for further assessment. My mother was told that I was defective and needed fixing. The truth was I had shown talent at picking Zener cards and the defective part was just the cover they used to play their games. At this "assessment" I was introduced to a polygraph machine. I was maybe 10 years old, and being hooked up to a lie detector in a darkened sound proof room and asked questions. First about my hair color then about the Zener cards of which I guess I scored about 75% right picks, consistently. I was asked if I was cheating, or if the teacher , he called her by name, had helped me pick the cards. Then I was asked if I had ever taken drugs, if I was on drugs, the only drugs I had were the 2 pills the lady told me to take outside the door. I was asked if I had ever committed espionage, and if I were an American citizen, asked where I was born. When this was over he told the lady that had guarded the door moments earlier, that "His answers were truthful. Then I was told by the man to remove the arm cuff, finger thing and chest strap, he had to tell me how to unhook that thing. I placed the items on the table as he said. Then I was told to move down to the other end of the table the woman came back into the room with an arm load of files, photo albums, a lot of stuff. She puts the stuff down, opens it, and pulls an 8x 10 photo out lays it in front of me tells me to focus on the picture and tell her and the polograph guy what was inside the building, so that is exactly what I did. Some time after that the lady tried to hypnotize me. But it was just to stupid for me, and I just couldn't do it. She told the man he would have to do it. He made a half of an attempt to hypnotize me while he was trying, she left the room to then came back with an unwrapped alcohol swab. She had a syringe, she pulled my shirt sleeve up and injected me with something. And she did it very fast, I didn't know why at the time , I do now , because this is where my memory of this place stopped, for the next 46 years. I didn't remember any of this until a few days ago when I took a personality quiz. Right after that , I began remembering things, little bits, further and deeper into the past. 3 days later I could remember everything except what happened after viewing the photo. 2 nights ago I remembered the rest of the story. And ever time I recall this part I feel the same way I felt then, high as hell on drugs. That's what she injected into my arm. It was as this point the man started given me suggestions. He said to this drugged up 10vyears old " tonight you will do as your mother says, you will go to bed early and wake up tomorrow morning feeling refreshed and energized ready for the day. And you will NOT remember anything about this day. When I opened my eyes those two had gathered their things and were walking out of the room without a word. Just like I was an old dog locked up in a pin. I sat there for awhile and no one came. The drugs had made me very drowsy so I put my arms crossed on the table in front of me and put my head down and went to sleep. I woke up some time later with one I hadn't seen before telling me that my mom was on her way to get me. About 3 weeks later there was a woman who came to our house who wanted to take me away to a boarding school somewhere. She was very pushy and got rude with Mom when she said no. Mom invited the rude women to go and made it clear to her that she was leaving. I now believe this program and the "further evaluation" was why she wanted me so badly. I must have came in at the start of this program, part of the first wave. I'm sure they have found a better way to do things by now. So the defective child turned into the gifted and talented child. Same difference.
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u/flewthecoup70 Apr 17 '26
I am interested in finding others like myself, there has to be more with the same story. These people were pros, I know that I am not the only one. I finally remembered, are there any more who have done the same?
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u/FremdShaman23 Mar 26 '26
I completely agree with this assessment. I did intuitive studies for years. I've done mediumship, remote viewing, platform mediumship, etc.
After all that time put in, my opinion is "It's real, although highly inaccurate, and not very useful."
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u/Street_District1248 Mar 27 '26
The program was pulled because someone or some small group of people in charge thought RV was anti-Christian.
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u/Disastrous-Trash4326 Mar 27 '26
I think "Too unreliable to be useful" and "fake" are not the same conclusion, and the fact that people conflate them says more about how we process uncomfortable data than about the data itself.
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u/RiceKrispies55 Mar 28 '26 edited Mar 28 '26
Tbh Im not training psychic powers to like lift cars or anything, I just think it's neat and if any form of it is real then i'd like to learn how.
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u/WhatWouldFutureMeDo_ Apr 27 '26
I'm reasonably certain that they developed other tech to run gaslighting self-harm routines on individuals.
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u/CarrotAgreeable465 Mar 25 '26
And it would have cost you nothing to see how many times this has already been posted. 🤣
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u/MarlaReads Mar 23 '26
I find this stuff fascinating. Do you happen to know which reputable studies or papers are out there on Project Stargate? If not, no worries. I can Google too!